Preexistence

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  • #296938
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,19:49)
    Hi MB,
    Is God not IN you?
    Is Christ not IN you?

    If you do not have the Spirit of Christ you are none of his.


    Mindless fluff.

    #296939
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Does it also speak of “something other” when we continue the same works by the same power?

    #296946
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Nick,

    Is that your way of agreeing with me that 2 Cor 5 doesn't speak of God's spokesman, Jesus?

    #296947
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Jesus was not a spokesperson but a mouthpiece through whom God spoke.
    Do you not yet believe this?

    Is God not in you?
    How can you continue the work then?

    #296950
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Mundane.

    #296951
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hmmm

    #296960
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Really Nick? ???

    “Spokesman” and “mouthpiece” are two different words to describe the same thing. And you wonder why I wrote “Mundane”? ???

    #296967
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,12:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 07 2012,18:53)
    Hi Mike,

    Is this verse speaking of something else?    …if so what?

    God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us
    The Word of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:19)

    God bless
    Ed J


    2 Cor 5 NIV
    18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

    Yes Ed.  That verse speaks of something other than the main spokesman for God who has the name “the Word of God”.


    Hi Mike,

    'the main spokesman for God who has the name “the Word of God”'        …where do you get this stuff from?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #296969
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    To me a spokesman speaks on behalf of-adding what is required for clarity.
    A mouthpiece is used for speaking through-no add ons.

    #296970
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mike, do you not agree that 2 Cor 5:19 is explaining the meaning of John 1:14? (see also Acts 10:38)

    “The Word was GOD” (John 1:1)

    God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us
    The Word of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:19)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #297015
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 08 2012,13:58)
    Hi Mike, do you not agree that 2 Cor 5:19 is explaining the meaning of John 1:14? (see also Acts 10:38)

                       “The Word was GOD” (John 1:1)

    God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us
    The Word of reconciliation.” (2 Cor 5:19)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED j……….Right on brother.

    peace and love………………………………………….gene

    #297026
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,12:56)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 07 2012,19:35)
    Mike,

    Yahshua had the same origin as all men.

    Yahshua did not pre-exist his birth………….


    You can keep claiming it until you're blue in the face, Frank.  It won't change the fact that Jesus was existing in the form of God, having glory alongside God before the ages that were created through him began, and then emptied himself to be made in human likeness.


    Mike,

    Since you believe that YOUR “Jesus” emptied himself of being “a god” and that this “Word” was “a god” in the beginning, then you must also believe that YOUR “Jesus” emptied himself of being the “Word”, right? :D

    #297028
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant
    #297029
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    #297030
    Pastry
    Participant

    Ed, The Holy Spirit does not have a rob on dipped in blood, only Jesus does…Irene

    #297033
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 09 2012,04:05)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,12:56)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 07 2012,19:35)
    Mike,

    Yahshua had the same origin as all men.

    Yahshua did not pre-exist his birth………….


    You can keep claiming it until you're blue in the face, Frank.  It won't change the fact that Jesus was existing in the form of God, having glory alongside God before the ages that were created through him began, and then emptied himself to be made in human likeness.


    Mike,

    Since you believe that YOUR “Jesus” emptied himself of being “a god” and that this “Word” was “a god” in the beginning, then you must also believe that YOUR “Jesus” emptied himself of being the “Word”, right?  :D


    Hi Frank,
    So can you give us your understanding of this passage in Phil2?

    #297037
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2012,06:30)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 09 2012,04:05)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,12:56)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 07 2012,19:35)
    Mike,

    Yahshua had the same origin as all men.

    Yahshua did not pre-exist his birth………….


    You can keep claiming it until you're blue in the face, Frank.  It won't change the fact that Jesus was existing in the form of God, having glory alongside God before the ages that were created through him began, and then emptied himself to be made in human likeness.


    Mike,

    Since you believe that YOUR “Jesus” emptied himself of being “a god” and that this “Word” was “a god” in the beginning, then you must also believe that YOUR “Jesus” emptied himself of being the “Word”, right?  :D


    Hi Frank,
    So can you give us your understanding of this passage in Phil2?


    Nick,

    It is simply speaking of being a humble and obedient servant to Father Yahweh and Yahshua setting this prime example. Yahshua became a humble servant to his and our Father Yahweh which in turn fulfilled the prophecy concerning his being a humble and obedient servant to his and our Father Yahweh. He was not emptying himself of being “a god” in a previous existence as Mike deceptively believes. I believe that we have previously been through all of this before, right? Sure we have!

    The Pre-existence
    Philippians 2:5-11
    By Voy Wilks
    1/29/92

    #297038
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Frank,
    It speaks of Christ Jesus and not just the man Jesus of Nazareth.

    #297042
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2012,07:26)
    Hi Frank,
    It speaks of Christ Jesus and not just the man Jesus of Nazareth.


    Nick,

    Messiah Yahshua and Yahshua of Nazaraeth are one and the same person. Shut up with your foolishness already! PLEASE!

    #297043
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Frank,
    Same vessel yes.

    An ordinary flesh man from Nazareth was transformed by anointing from above.

    Now we no longer speak of Christ according to the flesh. [2cor5.16]

    The Lord IS the Spirit[2 cor 3.17]

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