Preexistence

[JustAskin]

Gene,
Have you shown Mikeboll the Scriptures where God says 'I will be his Father, and he will be my Son'.

Sounds like 'future tense' to me.
Doesn't sound like 'past tense' to me.

When he, Jesus fulfills the promise, then…he will become a Son of God because he has 'proved himself' and becomes preEminent…as Spirit/Flesh Son of God, begotten of God as those to follow will also become Spirit/Flesh Sons of God, begotten of God, and as Sons, brothers of Christ, also, therefore, Heirs with him, heirs to God, but Christ will be the preEminent still, the 'Firstborn' over all of God's creations.

[kerwin]

Irene,

Be careful that your listeners know the context of what you write.  I happen to be aware of you speak of John 1.

Irene wrote:

Quote

…The Word of God is not God's Holy Spirit.

The same Hebrew word translated Spirit can also be translated to “word”.  I assure you just as God spoke in the beginning of creation and heaven and earth came to be his word is fulfilled by the action of his Spirit in the flesh of Jesus.  In this way God walked among us and still does through the unity of the Spirit.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,22:12)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2010,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,10:51) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 03 2010,20:48) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2010,07:19) Hi Ed, What do you mean?  Don't you know the “Word of God” in Rev is Jesus? mike Hi SF, Mike and Irene, The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. Do you even bother think this idea out to its rational conclusion? Here are FIVE questions that requires your like-minded to answer… Was the world without “the word” before Jesus was born? Was “the word” confined to Jesus while he walked the Earth? Was the world without “the word” while Jesus' corps lie in the tomb? Was the world without “the word” when Jesus ascended into heaven? Is the world without “the word” now that Jesus is NOT here in the flesh? Loose the irrational thought taught by the systems of religion! (Col.2:22) Clearly “The Word” is the “HolySpirit” rather than Jesus! (Click Here) Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) edj what do you mean wen you say WORLD ? Pierre Hi Terraricca, How many definitions of world do you have? Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

1)world -before Adam sins
2)world -after Adam sins
3)world -after the flood
4)world -after Christ
5)world -of Satan
6)world -human world
7)world-Godly world

witch one is the one you were talking about ?

Pierre

[Baker]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 07 2010,04:50)

Irene, Be careful that your listeners know the context of what you write.  I happen to be aware of you speak of John 1. Irene wrote: Quote …The Word of God is not God's Holy Spirit. The same Hebrew word translated Spirit can also be translated to “word”.  I assure you just as God spoke in the beginning of creation and heaven and earth came to be his word is fulfilled by the action of his Spirit in the flesh of Jesus.  In this way God walked among us and still does through the unity of the Spirit.

kerwin! I was mainly saying that The Word of God in Rev. 19:13 is Jesus and not the Holy Spirit. I know what you mean, however if in Rev. 19:13 and verse 16 explains it that The Word of God is Jesus who is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. JOHN FIRST WROTE Rev. and then John, so to say that The Word of God in John 1:1 and became flesh in verse 14 also who became Jesus, is not just a word spoken….. We do know that God and The Word of God is a title, both Jehovah God and Jesus have another name, Jesus name is Yahshua…Jehovah God also has more then one title, the great IA and the Almighty God. While Christ is the Mighty God……Read Rev. 19:13-16 it has become my favorite Scriptures. Those Scriptures explains what Christ will come as, and what He is going to do..verse 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He will strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. If that is not Jesus then who else can fit that description. I don't know anyone else, do you?
Hope you are feeling well, peace to you and may God be with you, Irene

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2010,04:53)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,22:12) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2010,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,10:51) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 03 2010,20:48) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2010,07:19) Hi Ed, What do you mean?  Don't you know the “Word of God” in Rev is Jesus? mike Hi SF, Mike and Irene, The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. Do you even bother think this idea out to its rational conclusion? Here are FIVE questions that requires your like-minded to answer… Was the world without “the word” before Jesus was born? Was “the word” confined to Jesus while he walked the Earth? Was the world without “the word” while Jesus' corps lie in the tomb? Was the world without “the word” when Jesus ascended into heaven? Is the world without “the word” now that Jesus is NOT here in the flesh? Loose the irrational thought taught by the systems of religion! (Col.2:22) Clearly “The Word” is the “HolySpirit” rather than Jesus! (Click Here) Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) edj what do you mean wen you say WORLD ? Pierre Hi Terraricca, How many definitions of world do you have? Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj 1)world -before Adam sins 2)world -after Adam sins 3)world -after the flood 4)world -after Christ 5)world -of Satan 6)world -human world 7)world-Godly world witch one is the one you were talking about ? Pierre

HI Terraricca,

#6

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 07 2010,03:47)

Gene, Have you shown Mikeboll the Scriptures where God says 'I will be his Father, and he will be my Son'. Sounds like 'future tense' to me. Doesn't sound like 'past tense' to me. When he, Jesus fulfills the promise, then…he will become a Son of God because he has 'proved himself' and becomes preEminent…as Spirit/Flesh Son of God, begotten of God as those to follow will also become Spirit/Flesh Sons of God, begotten of God, and as Sons, brothers of Christ, also, therefore, Heirs with him, heirs to God, but Christ will be the preEminent still, the 'Firstborn' over all of God's creations.

JA………… You have it right, and I have told Mike that but he does not accept that because he has bought into the false teachings he pursues. I am glad you do understand it, we are call alongside Jesus to attain to the (full Measure) of the stature of Christ Jesus. But all Antichrists are (separatist) and deny our identity with Jesus in our humanity by separating Him from themselves. They have no part (WITH HIM) now or in the future because they have removed Him from their own personal Identity .

peace and love to you and your……………………gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 08 2010,06:10)

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 07 2010,03:47) Gene, Have you shown Mikeboll the Scriptures where God says 'I will be his Father, and he will be my Son'. Sounds like 'future tense' to me. Doesn't sound like 'past tense' to me. When he, Jesus fulfills the promise, then…he will become a Son of God because he has 'proved himself' and becomes preEminent…as Spirit/Flesh Son of God, begotten of God as those to follow will also become Spirit/Flesh Sons of God, begotten of God, and as Sons, brothers of Christ, also, therefore, Heirs with him, heirs to God, but Christ will be the preEminent still, the 'Firstborn' over all of God's creations. JA………… You have it right, and I have told Mike that but he does not accept that because he has bought into the  false teachings he pursues.  I am glad you do understand it, we are call alongside Jesus to attain to the (full Measure) of the stature of Christ Jesus.  But all Antichrists are (separatist) and deny our identity with Jesus in our humanity by separating Him from themselves. They have no part (WITH HIM) now or in the future because they have removed Him from their  own personal Identity . peace and love to you and your……………………gene

gene

could you explain ,all of these scriptures ??

2Sa 7:14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with the rod of men, with floggings inflicted by men.
1Ch 17:13 I will be his father, and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor.
1Ch 22:10 He is the one who will build a house for my Name. He will be my son, and I will be his father. And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.’
1Ch 28:6 He said to me: ‘Solomon your son is the one who will build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father.
Heb 1:5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,
“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father’” ?
Or again,
“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son” ?

i would looking forward to it

Pierre

[terraricca]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 07 2010,10:47)

Gene, Have you shown Mikeboll the Scriptures where God says 'I will be his Father, and he will be my Son'. Sounds like 'future tense' to me. Doesn't sound like 'past tense' to me. When he, Jesus fulfills the promise, then…he will become a Son of God because he has 'proved himself' and becomes preEminent…as Spirit/Flesh Son of God, begotten of God as those to follow will also become Spirit/Flesh Sons of God, begotten of God, and as Sons, brothers of Christ, also, therefore, Heirs with him, heirs to God, but Christ will be the preEminent still, the 'Firstborn' over all of God's creations.

JA

can you explain these verse ?

2Sa 7:14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with the rod of men, with floggings inflicted by men.
1Ch 17:13 I will be his father, and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor.
1Ch 22:10 He is the one who will build a house for my Name. He will be my son, and I will be his father. And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.’
1Ch 28:6 He said to me: ‘Solomon your son is the one who will build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father.
Heb 1:5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,
“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father’” ?
Or again,
“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son” ?

why they are all in the future?

Pierre

[terraricca]

JA, and Gene

what does it mean to be called son by God ?
and that he be your father?

Pierre

[terraricca]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2010,09:42)

JA, and Gene what does it mean to be called son by God ? and that he be your father? Pierre

JA and gene

and this ;Ge 4:21 His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all who play the harp and flute.
Ro 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them.
Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

you have to take notice as well of those scriptures

Pierre

[JustAskin]

Terra,

I don't know what you are asking.

Is it that you don't believe that Jesus was an Angel before he became Man?

Terra, what was Jesus while in Heaven? What does Scriptures say?

When God said to Jesus, 'You are my Son', what form was Jesus in? Was it not Man…so to when it says,'to which of the Angels did he ever say, 'you are my Son', Jesus was not an Angel, was he?

Terra, what did Jesus do in Heaven that God should call him, and him alone, 'Son'?

Please, don't knee jerk, think about it? Think hard, fashion it out Script it out….whatever you thought doesn't work…

You would say, 'God created Jesus and established him as king in waiting over his kingdom…just like that.
You would say,'God said to Jesus, ''Your loved Righteousness more than they, therefore God, your God has anointed…'''. Terra, who are the 'they' that Jesus was more righteous than?
If Jesus was God from God then he is righteous without cause to ever be unrighteous, therefore it is pointless to say that he was MORE Righteous than another….another who? Another…Angel…
Compare apples with apples.
Jesus is God?
Then compare God with God.
Jesus is Angel?
Then compare Angel with Angel.
Jesus is Man?
Then compare Man with Man.

Scriptures says 'he WILL BE my Son, and I WILL be his father'.
Was this BEFORE Jesus was created?
It would have to be, for the Scripture is pertaining to a furture time, 'WILL BE'.

So, at what future time after David did Jesus become a Son to God?

Seeing that ALL created beings that have the Holy Spirit, that walk in the way of God, are SONs of God, the saying, 'Will be a Son' can only mean a Special Son, a begotten Son, set apart from the others, and at what point would that specialness be achievable? Surely it is when Jesus has PROVED beyond any doubt that he is worthy, completely worthy…when he has been tested to destruction, death, there is no greatern test, and Jesus past it with flying colours AND CAN therefore be wholly and Completely be said to be 'SON of GOD', 'begotten Son', 'Firstborn Son of God', 'PreEminent over All, and when it be said 'all' it is understanding that HE who made him preEminent is excepted from that All.

Terra, sketch out what you think is wrong with my perception of truth.

Show me how you see it.

Link it all from Jesus in Heaven, what Jesus was, and how the angels are, to Jesus n Earth, through his death and resurrection and establishment as king… Each step please to incorporate Scripture verses as you see it.

[terraricca]

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 08 2010,15:19)

Terra, I don't know what you are asking. Is it that you don't believe that Jesus was an Angel before he became Man? Terra, what was Jesus while in Heaven? What does Scriptures say? When God said to Jesus, 'You are my Son', what form was Jesus in? Was it not Man…so to when it says,'to which of the Angels did he ever say, 'you are my Son', Jesus was not an Angel, was he? Terra, what did Jesus do in Heaven that God should call him, and him alone, 'Son'? Please, don't knee jerk, think about it? Think hard, fashion it out Script it out….whatever you thought doesn't work… You would say, 'God created Jesus and established him as king in waiting over his kingdom…just like that. You would say,'God said to Jesus, ''Your loved Righteousness more than they, therefore God, your God has anointed…'''. Terra, who are the 'they' that Jesus was more righteous than? If Jesus was God from God then he is righteous without cause to ever be unrighteous, therefore it is pointless to say that he was MORE Righteous than another….another who? Another…Angel… Compare apples with apples. Jesus is God? Then compare God with God. Jesus is Angel? Then compare Angel with Angel. Jesus is Man? Then compare Man with Man. Scriptures says 'he WILL BE my Son, and I WILL be his father'. Was this BEFORE Jesus was created? It would have to be, for the Scripture is pertaining to a furture time, 'WILL BE'. So, at what future time after David did Jesus become a Son to God? Seeing that ALL created beings that have the Holy Spirit, that walk in the way of God, are  SONs of God, the saying, 'Will be a Son' can only mean a Special Son, a begotten Son, set apart from the others, and at what point would that specialness be achievable? Surely it is when Jesus has PROVED beyond any doubt that he is worthy, completely worthy…when he has been tested to destruction, death, there is no greatern test, and Jesus past it with flying colours AND CAN therefore be wholly and Completely be said to be 'SON of GOD', 'begotten Son', 'Firstborn Son of God', 'PreEminent over All, and when it be said 'all' it is understanding that HE who made him preEminent is excepted from that All. Terra, sketch out what you think is wrong with my perception of truth. Show me how you see it. Link it all from Jesus in Heaven, what Jesus was, and how the angels are, to Jesus n Earth, through his death and resurrection and establishment as king… Each step please to incorporate Scripture verses as you see it.

JA

this is how i see it;

Why the name “THE WORD’ this is essential to communicate,
God create the first of his works, a way of communicate with what he will create ,(we do the same thing
)

Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made

And he does all those creation trough THE WORD ‘(it look more like the work of a translator )

The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

Ge 1:3 _AND GOD SAID, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
THE WORD IS CREATED ANGELIC BEING SO SPIRIT LIKE GOD IS.

Heb 1:4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
Heb 1:5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,
“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father’” ?

1Ti 3:16 Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great:
He (Jesus) appeared in a body,
was vindicated by the Spirit,
was seen by angels,
was preached among the nations,
was believed on in the world,
was taken up in glory.
1Ti 5:21 I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.
Heb 1:4 So he (Jesus) became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.

So we can see;;the WORD = the harm =Jesus = the Word + name superior = right side of God

From what can anyone think , he is the first born of creation, and since the angels are called the sons of God it is not wrong to call the WORD the first son over all the others,
And so he as predominance being first born.
Now JESUS the son of man ;is first born (created) of God but because of his sacrifice he is now the first of the resurrection from among men.

So THE WORD =the harm = Jesus = THE WORD + = new name = all knees will bend to him = all is return to God

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2010,08:07)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2010,04:53) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,22:12) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2010,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,10:51) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 03 2010,20:48) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2010,07:19) Hi Ed, What do you mean?  Don't you know the “Word of God” in Rev is Jesus? mike Hi SF, Mike and Irene, The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. Do you even bother think this idea out to its rational conclusion? Here are FIVE questions that requires your like-minded to answer… Was the world without “the word” before Jesus was born? Was “the word” confined to Jesus while he walked the Earth? Was the world without “the word” while Jesus' corps lie in the tomb? Was the world without “the word” when Jesus ascended into heaven? Is the world without “the word” now that Jesus is NOT here in the flesh? Loose the irrational thought taught by the systems of religion! (Col.2:22) Clearly “The Word” is the “HolySpirit” rather than Jesus! (Click Here) Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) edj what do you mean wen you say WORLD ? Pierre Hi Terraricca, How many definitions of world do you have? Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj 1)world -before Adam sins 2)world -after Adam sins 3)world -after the flood 4)world -after Christ 5)world -of Satan 6)world -human world 7)world-Godly world witch one is the one you were talking about ? Pierre HI Terraricca, #6 God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

HI Terraricca,

Are you willing to answer my FIVE questions now?

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2010,18:48)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2010,08:07) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2010,04:53) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,22:12) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2010,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,10:51) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 03 2010,20:48) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2010,07:19) Hi Ed, What do you mean?  Don't you know the “Word of God” in Rev is Jesus? mike Hi SF, Mike and Irene, The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. Do you even bother think this idea out to its rational conclusion? Here are FIVE questions that requires your like-minded to answer… Was the world without “the word” before Jesus was born? Was “the word” confined to Jesus while he walked the Earth? Was the world without “the word” while Jesus' corps lie in the tomb? Was the world without “the word” when Jesus ascended into heaven? Is the world without “the word” now that Jesus is NOT here in the flesh? Loose the irrational thought taught by the systems of religion! (Col.2:22) Clearly “The Word” is the “HolySpirit” rather than Jesus! (Click Here) Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) edj what do you mean wen you say WORLD ? Pierre Hi Terraricca, How many definitions of world do you have? Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj 1)world -before Adam sins 2)world -after Adam sins 3)world -after the flood 4)world -after Christ 5)world -of Satan 6)world -human world 7)world-Godly world witch one is the one you were talking about ? Pierre HI Terraricca, #6 God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org HI Terraricca, Are you willing to answer my FIVE questions now? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

it is “no” to all five question,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2010,16:32)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2010,18:48) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 07 2010,08:07) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2010,04:53) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,22:12) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2010,14:35) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,10:51) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 03 2010,20:48) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 01 2010,07:19) Hi Ed, What do you mean?  Don't you know the “Word of God” in Rev is Jesus? mike Hi SF, Mike and Irene, The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. Do you even bother think this idea out to its rational conclusion? Here are FIVE questions that requires your like-minded to answer… Was the world without “the word” before Jesus was born? Was “the word” confined to Jesus while he walked the Earth? Was the world without “the word” while Jesus' corps lie in the tomb? Was the world without “the word” when Jesus ascended into heaven? Is the world without “the word” now that Jesus is NOT here in the flesh? Loose the irrational thought taught by the systems of religion! (Col.2:22) Clearly “The Word” is the “HolySpirit” rather than Jesus! (Click Here) Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH! יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16) edj what do you mean wen you say WORLD ? Pierre Hi Terraricca, How many definitions of world do you have? Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj 1)world -before Adam sins 2)world -after Adam sins 3)world -after the flood 4)world -after Christ 5)world -of Satan 6)world -human world 7)world-Godly world witch one is the one you were talking about ? Pierre HI Terraricca, #6 God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org HI Terraricca, Are you willing to answer my FIVE questions now? Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj it is “no” to all five question, Pierre

HI Terraricca,

Then you agree that “The Word” is the “HolySpirit”; right?

God bless
eD j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

edj

you say ;;;HI Terraricca,

Then you agree that “The Word” is the “HolySpirit”; right?

God bless
eD j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

my answer is NO,,,

Pierre

[shimmer]

Hi Ed,

In John 1 it says clearly that the word (Logos) became flesh, became Jesus. Do you see that ?

[kerwin]

Shimmer,

Do you believe Jesus the spirit being changed into a human being or that God spoke and Jesus came to be?

[Ed J]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 09 2010,07:38)

Hi Ed,   In John 1 it says clearly that the word (Logos) became flesh, became Jesus. Do you see that ?

Hi Shimmer,

Acts12:24 …”The Word” ([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs) of God grew and multiplied.
Mark 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought
beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall
be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the HolySpirit.
Luke 12:12 For the HolySpirit shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
Matt.10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[shimmer]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 09 2010,10:13)

Shimmer, Do you believe Jesus the spirit being changed into a human being or that God spoke and Jesus came to be?

Hi Kerwin.

I know scripture says the word (Logos) became flesh, became Jesus.

But thats where I get stuck.

[Author]

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