Pentecost was jesus second coming

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If Christ did not come and come again on Pentecost and come over and over to every individual who hears the truth and accepts his words/spirit then we are still dead in trespasses and sin.

Hi Tim,

I'm glad you see this “bible truth”!

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode

December 14, 2011 at 10:34 pm#267891

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If Christ did not come and come again on Pentecost and come over and over to every individual who hears the truth and accepts his words/spirit then we are still dead in trespasses and sin.

Hi Tim,

I'm glad you see this “bible truth”!

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode

edj and tk

you make Christ look like a yoyo , you show more importance to your selves than to Gods plan ,you think you are so priviledge that Christ comes to you twise not ones ,I do not see scriptures to support your extravagance in your believe,

scriptures says that we all have to wait in line to come in front of the throne of the one that will judge us ,either will he give us live or dead,

but it seems you can't wait it has to be now,well you guys can dream on but it is not in scriptures ,wen he return no one in the world will miss him,

Pierre

December 15, 2011 at 2:52 am#267938

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scriptures says that we all have to wait in line to come in front of the throne of the one that will judge us ,either will he give us live or dead,

Right on, Pierre.

December 16, 2011 at 4:43 pm#268049

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Guys:….. That's why its so much better to have ones name written in the Book of Life.The ''dead'' await the penalty set for those who reject the truth. Those who accepted their cleansing from Gods words in Jesus are in the book of life! No lines to stand in! No payment, no penalty, no fear. There is no further judgment for those in the book of life! They were the ones that ''were'' dead in trespasses and sin, but they heard the word of God, Jesus, that said they were clean, they accepted that truth and were instantly changed into a “new creation'' of God. SPIRIT! They were ''born of Spirit'' into a new creature created in Christ Jesus!

Re-created in mind from sin and death to life and peace with God! Old things(darkness and sin) passed away and behold all things became new. They were washed by the blood and the words of Jesus which washed away sin, all darkness, all uncleanliness, all unrighteousness, any or all thoughts of separation from God. They were made ONE by the truth. A new creation in Christ Jesus.

Can anyone '''see'' or “hear” the truth in this? Isn't the “born again” new creation the plan of God through Jesus to judge the world as perfect sons of God? Man couldn't get clean any other way. Rituals, works and deeds could not cleanse the hearts of man. Only believing the words of God/Spirit through Jesus could do this transforming work in man!! Now we are transformed from death to life. The original man Adam went from good/life to evil/death by faith. Jesus came and made it all good again. Jesus is the tree of life in the garden of your heart. Eat from that tree and live!! We must eat his flesh(truth-food) and drink his blood(truth-drink) and become ONE together in the Temple/Church/Body which is you!!

I am astounded at the lack of spirit truth [that creates] faith unto God, on this site! IMO, TK

December 16, 2011 at 9:33 pm#268061

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Quote (ftk @ Dec. 17 2011,09:43)

I am astounded at the lack of spirit truth [that creates] faith unto God, on this site! IMO, TK

The division in Christ is created by those who believe that what they understand is the truth,
This is not scriptural because Christ says that Only the word of God is the truth,

And their is where you going astray,your in Christ does not exist because it is not in his name that you put your faith but in yours,yours,you,always you and yours, so tell me how can you be true in your faith ?
Know you have a faith ,but it is all what you believe not base on scriptures,I mean all of them,

And this is not my opinion ,look all your quotes trough this site and see it for yourself,

Scriptures are the foundation of the way to God and Christ and to eternal live,

Leaving scriptures means leaving Christ ,God and live ,and the truth,

Pierre

December 17, 2011 at 10:36 am#268120

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Pierre: You would have to be a little more specific than saying…..”all my quotes through this site are not based on scriptures.”

You say…
Know you have a faith ,but it is all what you believe not base on scriptures,I mean all of them….I SAY FAITH UNITES US AS ONE WITH CHRIST JESUS! Jesus said if you have seen me, you have seen the Father. The scriptures make us ONE with Jesus in God.

My doctrines are not from other people. I believed almost exactly like you at the beginning of my search for God/Truth! The scriptures have transformed my thinking to what I believe today!

Yes I agree that the scriptures are the foundation of the way to God & Christ and to eternal life….BUT….the way to God & Christ is now INSIDE you. And,…. NOW….eternal life is the life we can live here, now on earth….not later, sometime in the future!!

I can't leave Christ, God, life and the truth I married them! We are joined in Holy matrimony! Will I now be unfaithful?….IF I HAVE BEEN SHOWN BY GOD THAT THE TRUTH AND SPIRIT IS NOW WITHIN MANKIND!!….ITS NOT OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE….WE ARE UNITED IN UNION TOGETHER….ITS WITHIN US…..WE ARE NOW TO GO IN JESUS….NAME/AUTHORITY/INSTEAD OF JESUS AND DO THE HEALING WORK OF OUR FATHER JUST LIKE JESUS DID.

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A HERETIC? I can't convince you but I will continue to share and show what I believe God wants me to share!

I laid my life aside to take on the spirit words of Christ, Gods truth, Jesus. The words of God through Jesus, the Christ made me ONE with them. They are in me, in my mind and in my heart. We converse, I feel their love for me and for all others. They are making me like them in my opinion. I condemn no one! I live to the fullest and let others live to the fullest. I'm totally free in love.

If I were to say,…Jesus will return someday….I would be lying! I know he is here, now! All those misguided by a future return of Jesus for any thing cannot enter into union and life with him here and now. HE'S EITHER HERE NOW OR NOT HERE! CAN'T BE BOTH!

No, I have not left the scriptures…they are now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh! I married them and they have married me. I am just beginning to live the eternal life given to man through Jesus. Putting off anything God has given FOR NOW, is a waste of life….it is for NOW by faith. Pure, sinless, righteous, perfection with absolute life apart from sickness and disease and all forms of death and destruction. TK

December 18, 2011 at 7:31 am#268247

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Pierre: You would have to be a little more specific than saying…..”all my quotes through this site are not based on scriptures.”

My doctrines are not from other people. I believed almost exactly like you at the beginning of my search for God/Truth! The scriptures have transformed my thinking to what I believe today!

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A HERETIC? I can't convince you but I will continue to share and show what I believe God wants me to share!

Please read what I say,I nerver say that all your quotes are not based on scriptures ,BUT ALL YOUR BELIEVES,

Please if I miss spelled anything forgive me ,

Pierre

December 18, 2011 at 7:36 am#268248

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Tk
Posted: Dec. 18 2011,03:36
Pierre: You would have to be a little more specific than saying…..”all my quotes through this site are not based on scriptures.”

My doctrines are not from other people. I believed almost exactly like you at the beginning of my search for God/Truth! The scriptures have transformed my thinking to what I believe today!

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A HERETIC? I can't convince you but I will continue to share and show what I believe God wants me to share!

Pierre

December 18, 2011 at 12:27 pm#268269

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I am of Christ Jesus alone. No group. Ive heard of “Scientology” but know nothing about it. TK

December 19, 2011 at 11:40 am#268394

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Wakeup: My friend is what you should do IMO! Your incorrect, literal, non-spirit, interpretation of the Revelation of John is religiously common, lifeless, and totally not truth! The truth today is spirit words from God. God is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit of truth.

Jesus said he would go away and come…”again” or[in a new form]! Jesus is the Christ! Jesus is the spirit of truth.

Jesus said at John14:17….. the “spirit of truth” whom the….current world of religion…knoweth not, but the believers know him: for he dwelleth with you and….. ''will be in you''…! Jesus returned as the spirit of truth or Christ or Holy spirit, he is all and in all!

Anyone who is looking for Jesus or Christ or the Holy Spirit or the Comforter to come back to earth must “see and understand” that he dwells within each human being that accepts him and believes he is lord of all. Every time one accept Jesus as lord he returns physically to an earthen vessel. He who has “spirit” ears to hear, let him hear!

If you actually read Daniels interpretation of the Kings dream you will find it speaks of the ten toes of the fourth kingdom and say….AT THE TIME OF THOSE KINGS (of the Roman Empire) God will set up a Kingdom that will never be destroyed!!! Jesus came to preach the Kingdom of God….It came….It is here……it will never be destroyed. The Kingdom is within each human being.

After Jesus resurrected he came back to the earth and left and came back six or seven times before finally ascending into spirit!

Christ is here now in all who will accept and believe. The word of God is judging the masses now. They will either accept or reject what God has done for them. God has made us sin-free and perfect if we believe it. If we reject or dis-believe we remain dead in sin and trespasses. If we accept we mentally recreate unto total sons of God. New creations of the words of God through Jesus. Born anew of Spirit to see and hear the Kingdom of God inside!

Anyone who is looking for Jesus to return and do anything has missed the calling of God for right NOW! And denies that Jesus/God is here now! Where would Jesus/God/Holy Spirit not be? Isn't God everywhere? IMO, TK

December 19, 2011 at 3:56 pm#268418

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What accounts would make you think that I do not believe? Is it something to do with the three nines?

Let me know.

Hi Princess of the king,

Do you believe Jesus “Spiritual” second coming occurred at “Pentecost”?

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed J,

Would you please start a new thread in regards to this, so we can continue. Thank you.

I'm sure this would bring much to the forum.

Take care, Ed J.

Hi Everybody,

I started this thread at the request of Princess of the king.
Jesus “Spiritual” Second Coming occurred at “Pentecost”!

What say you?

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi ed j.
pantecost; Jesus second coming??Where on earth is this coming from?If you want to know about the second coming,please go to rev.ch.19. and you can compare that with pantecost; Hope you can see the difference.
The coming of christ is with the shaking of the earth, hale stones by the weight of a talent(45kg)(rev16:20.21)
And with the armies of heaven.
rev18:21. babylon shall be found NO MORE.the end of mans kingdom on earth.The 10 toes of the image of Daniel(2:42 44) is also the end of mans kingdom on this earth.It is speaking of the same thing.
Lets not get carried away by these strange doctrines that are floating around lately,lets stay with the word of God (the flesh of christ).And lets not eat strange flesh,lets not drink of poluted waters, but lets drink the fresh life giving waters that comes out of the throne of God.

Thank you EDJ my bradda.peace be up on you.
wakeup.

Hi Wake-up, looks like we need to discuss this a bit.

Rev.19:11-21 is a description of the last of the seven feasts of God. Pentecost was Jesus return (in spirit form). (Matt.26:64)
(John 14:23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. (Heb.9:28) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many;
and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. (1Cor.15:46) Howbeit
that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 19, 2011 at 6:06 pm#268424

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Pierre: You would have to be a little more specific than saying…..”all my quotes through this site are not based on scriptures.”

I answered;Tk

Please read what I say,I nerver say that all your quotes are not based on scriptures ,BUT ALL YOUR BELIEVES,

Please if I miss spelled anything forgive me ,

Pierre

and you never respond to this why ??

December 20, 2011 at 11:35 am#268527

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Pierre: I apologize, I don't know what you want me to respond to. Please re-ask! Sorry, TK

December 20, 2011 at 11:59 pm#268660

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Pierre: I apologize, I don't know what you want me to respond to. Please re-ask! Sorry, TK

think,what would a truthful person respond to his miss understanding and false statement ??

December 21, 2011 at 3:56 pm#268757

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Pierre: First off, it is your perception that anything I wrote was from miss-understanding or was from a false statement! Why, as two brothers in the lord, discussing what we believe the Bible is saying, do you infer that I am not truthful? I am not aware of any doctrine that I espouse that is not scripturaly based! TK

December 21, 2011 at 4:48 pm#268762

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Pierre: First off, it is your perception that anything I wrote was from miss-understanding or was from a false statement! Why, as two brothers in the lord, discussing what we believe the Bible is saying, do you infer that I am not truthful? I am not aware of any doctrine that I espouse that is not scripturaly based! TK

Hi Tim, you are aware, because I brought it to your attention!

One unscriptural belief you have is: that sin is (according to Tim) not something that one does. (Link to specific thread)
Tim and Pierre: please keep THIS THREAD about whether or not Pentecost was Jesus second coming; thank you.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 23, 2011 at 10:53 am#269052

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Ed: Sin entered into the world by what someone chose to believe! TK

December 23, 2011 at 11:14 am#269055

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Pierre: First off, it is your perception that anything I wrote was from miss-understanding or was from a false statement! Why, as two brothers in the lord, discussing what we believe the Bible is saying, do you infer that I am not truthful? I am not aware of any doctrine that I espouse that is not scripturaly based! TK

Hi Tim, you are aware, because I brought it to your attention!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

you is second return was NOT at the pentecost ,this is final.

Pierre

January 7, 2012 at 5:35 am#271080