Pentecost was jesus second coming

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,19:56)

edj Quote Hi Pierre, How does your last post have anything to do with what we are talking about? Hebrews 9:28 is the focus, perhaps you are mistakenly thinking it was Acts 10:38? God bless by responding to Mike with those scriptures that had nothing to do with what he was saying,I felt free to comment on it , Pierre

PIERRE,

So YOU WERE speaking of Acts 10:38 rather than Hebrews 9:28.
Since you probably don't like my explanation of Hebrews 9:28, what's yours?

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“Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17)

“if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,03:39)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,19:56) edj Quote Hi Pierre, How does your last post have anything to do with what we are talking about? Hebrews 9:28 is the focus, perhaps you are mistakenly thinking it was Acts 10:38? God bless by responding to Mike with those scriptures that had nothing to do with what he was saying,I felt free to comment on it , Pierre PIERRE, So YOU WERE speaking of Acts 10:38 rather than Hebrews 9:28. Since you probably don't like my explanation of Hebrews 9:28, what's yours? Quote “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

it is your analogy with the pentecost that looks weird,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,05:12)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,03:39) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,19:56) edj Quote Hi Pierre, How does your last post have anything to do with what we are talking about? Hebrews 9:28 is the focus, perhaps you are mistakenly thinking it was Acts 10:38? God bless by responding to Mike with those scriptures that had nothing to do with what he was saying,I felt free to comment on it , Pierre PIERRE, So YOU WERE speaking of Acts 10:38 rather than Hebrews 9:28. Since you probably don't like my explanation of Hebrews 9:28, what's yours? Quote “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj it is your analogy with the pentecost that looks weird, Pierre

PIERRE,

That's because you've never looked at the Scriptures before in this light.
But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light:
for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. (Eph.5:13)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,13:18)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,05:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,03:39) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,19:56) edj Quote Hi Pierre, How does your last post have anything to do with what we are talking about? Hebrews 9:28 is the focus, perhaps you are mistakenly thinking it was Acts 10:38? God bless by responding to Mike with those scriptures that had nothing to do with what he was saying,I felt free to comment on it , Pierre PIERRE, So YOU WERE speaking of Acts 10:38 rather than Hebrews 9:28. Since you probably don't like my explanation of Hebrews 9:28, what's yours? Quote “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj it is your analogy with the pentecost that looks weird, Pierre PIERRE, That's because you've never looked at the Scriptures before in this light. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. (Eph.5:13) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

I don't think you understand what you talking about,and you have not answered the question you are running away ,

You are using religion practice that you say you do not use ,like this answer is spinning ,

Going no were,

So tell why this Pentecost as anything to do with the return of Christ ?

According to Eddy

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:10)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,13:18) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,05:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,03:39) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,19:56) edj Quote Hi Pierre, How does your last post have anything to do with what we are talking about? Hebrews 9:28 is the focus, perhaps you are mistakenly thinking it was Acts 10:38? God bless by responding to Mike with those scriptures that had nothing to do with what he was saying,I felt free to comment on it , Pierre PIERRE, So YOU WERE speaking of Acts 10:38 rather than Hebrews 9:28. Since you probably don't like my explanation of Hebrews 9:28, what's yours? Quote “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj it is your analogy with the pentecost that looks weird, Pierre PIERRE, That's because you've never looked at the Scriptures before in this light. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. (Eph.5:13) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ I don't think you understand what you talking about,and you have not answered the question you are running away , You are using religion practice that you say you do not use ,like this answer is spinning , Going no were, So tell why this Pentecost  as anything to do with the return of Christ ? According to Eddy Pierre

PIERRE,

I'm in the process of explaining why those verses I posted support Jesus' return (in spirit form) on Pentecost.

Is that the best you can do, is say…   'that they don't mean what you suggest'    …with no alternate explanation?

I've now explained two of the four verses that I posted so far. And you have offered NO alternate explanation, PERIOD!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:10)

you have not answered the question you are running away ,

Hi Pierre,

What question?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 05 2011,22:10)

Hi Mike, “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28) This verse is PRETTY cut and dry, why do you NOT believe that this is talking about Pentecost?   …what do you believe it means?

It means that some will not die at all, but be changed in the twinkling of an eye. Like the souls under the alter in Revelation. I believe those who are murdered specifically for refusing to deny Jesus and his God never actually “taste death”. Instead, their souls are lifted right from their murdered bodies into God's Kingdom.

This is what most of Christanity seems to think happens to EVERYONE who dies. I don't believe that. But I do believe that Stephen, Paul, Peter, John, and certain others went directly from life on earth to life in heaven.

What else ya got?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,14:47)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:10) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,13:18) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,05:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,03:39) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,19:56) edj Quote Hi Pierre, How does your last post have anything to do with what we are talking about? Hebrews 9:28 is the focus, perhaps you are mistakenly thinking it was Acts 10:38? God bless by responding to Mike with those scriptures that had nothing to do with what he was saying,I felt free to comment on it , Pierre PIERRE, So YOU WERE speaking of Acts 10:38 rather than Hebrews 9:28. Since you probably don't like my explanation of Hebrews 9:28, what's yours? Quote “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj it is your analogy with the pentecost that looks weird, Pierre PIERRE, That's because you've never looked at the Scriptures before in this light. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. (Eph.5:13) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ I don't think you understand what you talking about,and you have not answered the question you are running away , You are using religion practice that you say you do not use ,like this answer is spinning , Going no were, So tell why this Pentecost  as anything to do with the return of Christ ? According to Eddy Pierre PIERRE, I'm in the process of explaining why those verses I posted support Jesus' return (in spirit form) on Pentecost. Is that the best you can do, is say…   'that they don't mean what you suggest'    …with no alternate explanation? I've now explained two of the four verses that I posted so far. And you have offered NO alternate explanation, PERIOD! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

do read this ?

i do not know what to make out of that written words

Pierre

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,14:49)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:10) you have not answered the question you are running away , Hi Pierre, What question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

“if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)

what is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST ??

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 07 2011,08:07)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 05 2011,22:10) Hi Mike, “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28) This verse is PRETTY cut and dry, why do you NOT believe that this is talking about Pentecost?   …what do you believe it means? It means that some will not die at all, but be changed in the twinkling of an eye.  Like the souls under the alter in Revelation.  I believe those who are murdered specifically for refusing to deny Jesus and his God never actually “taste death”.  Instead, their souls are lifted right from their murdered bodies into God's Kingdom. This is what most of Christanity seems to think happens to EVERYONE who dies.  I don't believe that.  But I do believe that Stephen, Paul, Peter, John, and certain others went directly from life on earth to life in heaven. What else ya got?

Hi Mike,

So they will not taste death, until they live forever?
Not a very compelling counterargument, but I appreciate you giving an answer.
Pierre seems to think his rejection of something is somehow proof of some kind; which of course it is NOT!

OK, I' will proceed.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,09:28)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,14:47) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:10) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,13:18) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,05:12) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,03:39) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,19:56) edj Quote Hi Pierre, How does your last post have anything to do with what we are talking about? Hebrews 9:28 is the focus, perhaps you are mistakenly thinking it was Acts 10:38? God bless by responding to Mike with those scriptures that had nothing to do with what he was saying,I felt free to comment on it , Pierre PIERRE, So YOU WERE speaking of Acts 10:38 rather than Hebrews 9:28. Since you probably don't like my explanation of Hebrews 9:28, what's yours? Quote “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) Jesus' flesh carried the sins of the world to the grave, but Jesus' spirit carries “No sin” to us, only our salvation. Our salvation is assured if we have the spirit of Christ dwelling in us (our own personal Pentecost). (see John 14:23 and Acts 9:17) “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) God bless Ed J edj it is your analogy with the pentecost that looks weird, Pierre PIERRE, That's because you've never looked at the Scriptures before in this light. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. (Eph.5:13) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ I don't think you understand what you talking about,and you have not answered the question you are running away , You are using religion practice that you say you do not use ,like this answer is spinning , Going no were, So tell why this Pentecost  as anything to do with the return of Christ ? According to Eddy Pierre PIERRE, I'm in the process of explaining why those verses I posted support Jesus' return (in spirit form) on Pentecost. Is that the best you can do, is say…   'that they don't mean what you suggest'    …with no alternate explanation? I've now explained two of the four verses that I posted so far. And you have offered NO alternate explanation, PERIOD! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org do read this ? i do not know what to make out of that written words Pierre

Hi Pierre,

It means you offer squat.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,09:29)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,14:49) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:10) you have not answered the question you are running away , Hi Pierre, What question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) what is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST ?? Pierre

PIERRE,

You mean YOU do not know?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,17:55)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,09:29) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,14:49) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:10) you have not answered the question you are running away , Hi Pierre, What question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) what is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST ?? Pierre PIERRE, You mean YOU do not know? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

yes I do not know what is your version of it ,

so let ear it ?

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,13:08)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,17:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,09:29) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,14:49) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:10) you have not answered the question you are running away , Hi Pierre, What question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) what is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST ?? Pierre PIERRE, You mean YOU do not know? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj yes I do not know what is your version of it , so let ear it ? Pierre

PIERRE,

You say “spirit of” always means “will”; as in,  …Spirit of God: God's will.
Therefore, we can extrapolate that you believe, Spirit of Christ: Christs will.

I have this idea of yours pegged down pretty good, huh Pierre?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,21:49)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,13:08) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,17:55) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,09:29) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,14:49) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:10) you have not answered the question you are running away , Hi Pierre, What question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) what is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST ?? Pierre PIERRE, You mean YOU do not know? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj yes I do not know what is your version of it , so let ear it ? Pierre PIERRE, You say “spirit of” always means “will”; as in,  …Spirit of God: God's will. Therefore, we can extrapolate that you believe, Spirit of Christ: Christs will. I have this idea of yours pegged down pretty good, huh Pierre? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

you can see your play game ;did you answer my question ? NO

did you take me for a foul ? YES

you do not even know or understood what i have written,

and so try to play the smart Alec,

do you really think that I do not see your moves ??

I still have my skills of a chess player ,and can see you have no truth because of all the rickels in your comments ,

you may fool many but I do not think you can fool T8,Mike or me ,we can see trough you like trough a glass window,

I know you look down on me ;first mistake ;because I have God looking down on you for me,

but ok.are you going to answer me ??

Pierre

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre,

You did not like me stating your view?
I don't disagree with your view on this.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,22:13)

Hi Pierre, You did not like me stating your view? I don't disagree with your view on this. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

your respond does not say what you believe or what it is that you agree with me ,

i feel sad about you because you are killing your self slowly because truth i running away from you ,and soon you would not beable to change the way you are dealing with others but it would be for your worst,remember the 10 maiden 5 were wise but 5 were foolish and did not enter when Christ returned

Pierre

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 06 2011,17:51)

Hi Mike, So they will not taste death, until they live forever? Not a very compelling counterargument, but I appreciate you giving an answer.

Look up the word “until”, Ed. Let me know what you find out.

[mikeboll64]

Nevermind, I'll do it for you:
heos 1) till, until

In NET (148) : until 71, to 27, while 6, How much longer 4, before 4, as far as 3, Until 2, How long 2, still 2, even to the point 2, all the way to 1, As many as 1, How much 1, completely 1, since 1, even 1, ended up 1, down to 1, as long as 1

NET ©
I tell you the truth, there are some standing here who will not experience death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

NIV ©
I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
 
NLT ©
And I assure you that some of you standing here right now will not die before you see me, the Son of Man, coming in my Kingdom.”

NRSV ©
Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

All will eventually see Christ in his glory, because he will judge each and every one of us.  While the majority of humans will taste death BEFORE they see Jesus in his glorified state, some of those standing among him at that time would not.  Some of those, like the souls under the alter in Rev, would go right from life on earth to life in heaven – without a layover in Hades.  

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 04 2011,05:20)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 04 2011,04:10) Ed, Show me from scriptures that Jesus's second coming happened at pentecost. Hi Mike, you can start with these: “Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matt 16:28) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23) “But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.” (Luke 9:27) God bless Ed J

Hi Mike,

“If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)
When do you believe this will happen, if you deny it happened at Pentecost?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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