Pentecost was jesus second coming

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  • #201956
    Ed J
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    Quote (Tim Kraft @ July 06 2010,21:21)
    Could someone tell me what a bump is? TK


    Hi Tim,

    “A Bump” is nothing more than “a current Post”,
    which pushes or bumps the thread up to the top;
    thus putting it on the front Page for someone; OK?

    I Bumped it up for you, because we were talking about
    this subject on a different “Thread” and I wanted you
    to comment and discuss on the appropriate thread.
    So do you agree Jesus returned on “Pentecost”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #201963
    Tim Kraft
    Participant

    Ed J: You are so right on IMO. This is another lost truth by so many. Jesus came and went from spirit to physical man at least 7or8 times before leaving physicality. Yet he is here, now, in you, in his body (the church) making his abode (home) in you and me and all who will believe it is true.

    He literally said I will come again or in a new form, that where I am there you will be also.

    If feels so good to hit on a vein of truth that we seem to see eye to eye on. I want you and everyone on this site to know I desire with all my heart to learn Gods truth. I have been studying alone for over 20 years. The truth that I see is different than most. I come to this site because of the well learned people of the Bible that are here. I believe what I write to be absolute truth, but I want to test it with people that know the Bible well.

    I appreciate your input from wisdom. If your willing we will journey on for a while. Blessings to you, TK

    #201973
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    The body of Christ is not the head of that Body.
    He will come back soon to join with them.

    #202553
    Ed J
    Participant

    Bump for Gene

    #202567
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Tim Kraft @ July 07 2010,00:16)
    Ed J: You are so right on IMO. This is another lost truth by so many. Jesus came and went from spirit to physical man at least 7or8 times before leaving physicality. Yet he is here, now, in you, in his body (the church) making his abode (home) in you and me and all who will believe it is true.

    He literally said I will come again or in a new form, that where I am there you will be also.

    If feels so good to hit on a vein of truth that we seem to see eye to eye on. I want you and everyone on this site to know I desire with all my heart to learn Gods truth. I have been studying alone for over 20 years. The truth that I see is different than most. I come to this site because of the well learned people of the Bible that are here. I believe what I write to be absolute truth, but I want to test it with people that know the Bible well.

    I appreciate your input from wisdom. If your willing we will journey on for a while. Blessings to you, TK


    EdJ and Tim……….Where did you guise every get that from. We were told by an Angle that This same Jesus they seen ascending up into the heavens will in like manor descend from heaven onto the earth. You both just trampled over many scriptures to derive at those conclusions. We are also told that the whole world will see him when he returns. Has that happened yet. Do have any idea where you boys got that from. Remember it say the (SUM) of God's word is truth, no just some little part you can pick and makes it say what in fact it does not , and them imply that some spirit revelation has told you that. I do believe GOD can reveal his truth to us but that truth has to alien with His (whole) words , not just some fragments. You boys are in Left field here. IMO

    #202718
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2010,07:36)

    Quote (Tim Kraft @ July 07 2010,00:16)
    Ed J: You are so right on IMO. This is another lost truth by so many. Jesus came and went from spirit to physical man at least 7or8 times before leaving physicality. Yet he is here, now, in you, in his body (the church) making his abode (home) in you and me and all who will believe it is true.

    He literally said I will come again or in a new form, that where I am there you will be also.

    If feels so good to hit on a vein of truth that we seem to see eye to eye on. I want you and everyone on this site to know I desire with all my heart to learn Gods truth. I have been studying alone for over 20 years. The truth that I see is different than most. I come to this site because of the well learned people of the Bible that are here. I believe what I write to be absolute truth, but I want to test it with people that know the Bible well.

    I appreciate your input from wisdom. If your willing we will journey on for a while. Blessings to you, TK


    EdJ and Tim……….Where did you guise every get that from.  We were told by an Angle that This same Jesus they seen ascending up into the heavens will in like manor descend from heaven onto the earth. You both just trampled over many scriptures to derive  at those conclusions. We are also told that the whole world will see him when he returns. Has that happened yet. Do have any idea where you boys got that from. Remember it say the (SUM) of God's word is truth, no just some little part you can pick and makes it say what in fact it does not , and them imply that some spirit revelation has told you that. I do believe GOD can reveal his truth to us but that truth has to alien with His (whole) words , not just some fragments.  You boys are in Left field here. IMO


    Hi Gene,

    Jesus returned at Pentecost, yet with some their eyes were holden that they should not know him! (John 14:23)

    Luke 24:13-34 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus,
    which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs. And they talked together of all these
    things which had happened. And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned,
    Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
    And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk,
    and are sad? And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger
    in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days? And he said unto them,
    What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word
    before God and all the people: And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death,
    and have crucified him. But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this,
    to day is the third day since these things were done. Yea, and certain women also of our company made us
    astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; And when they found not his body, they came, saying,
    that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive. And certain of them which were
    with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not.
    Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
    Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses
    and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
    And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.
    But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went
    in to tarry with them. And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake,
    and gave to them. And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #202737
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Indeed Jesus at the right hand of God did send his Spirit to enliven his body on earth and still does.
    soon he will return.

    #202799
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 10 2010,06:25)
    Hi ED,
    Indeed Jesus at the right hand of God did send his Spirit to enliven his body on earth and still does.
    soon he will return.


    Hi Nick,

    The believers seen Jesus coming in glory with his father. (John 14:23)

    Matt. 6:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here,
    which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

    Luke 9:27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here,
    which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

    Jesus second coming is not to be confused with the “Day of The LORD”. (2Peter 3:10)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #202801
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    You think he was seen in glory in Jn 14?
    He was seen in glory on the mountain by three but not the rest.
    The suffering servant was not accepted a the Messiah by most and was soon abused and rejected and killed.

    No he will return and you are running out of time to find oil.

    #202803
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Pentecost was spoken of by Jesus in this way
    “Behold I am sending forth the promise of my Father upon you; but you are to stay in the city till you are clothed with power from on high” Lk24

    He sent the Spirit.
    The Spirit is of the same power that empowered him.

    he is coming.
    Maranatha.

    #202840
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    2Cor.5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though
    we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
    Why put personal thought above Scripture? A flesh return is un-biblical? (Click Here)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #202850
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Indeed we should know Christ and his Father now in the Spirit.
    The Lord is the Spirit.

    But we await the return of the Lord and the head of his church.

    #202882
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Believers see “The King” here in us (in Spirit form) (Isaiah 33:17),
    others await a FALSE image 'flesh god' return. (Rom.1:25 / Luke 24:16)
                             (Click Here)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #202883
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    King Jesus is at the right hand of His God in heaven.
    He came and established an eternal kingdom.
    Will thee be faith on earth when he returns?

    #203281
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 10 2010,21:50)
    Hi Ed,
    King Jesus is at the right hand of His God in heaven.
    He came and established an eternal kingdom.
    Will thee be faith on earth when he returns?


    Hi Nick,

    Jesus (at Pentecost) is at the right hand of God in the hearts of the believers. (John 14:23)
    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
    and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    Why are you expecting a nonexistent non-Biblical flesh return to happen? (Click Here)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #203294
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    God sent the comforter [His Spirit shared now by Jesus] till the return of Jesus.
    Are you not ready yet?

    #203307
    Oxy
    Participant

    Different page, same confusion.

    #203313
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ July 12 2010,18:16)
    Different page, same confusion.


    Hi Oxy,

    Are you confused on every thread you read?

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #203349
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 10 2010,03:32)
    [
    Jesus returned at Pentecost, yet with some their eyes were holden that they should not know him! (John 14:23)

    Luke 24:13-34 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus,
    which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs. And they talked together of all these
    things which had happened. And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned,
    Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
    And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk,
    and are sad? And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger
    in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?


    ED J…………That took place just after Jesus' resurrection three days after he died. the Day of Pentecost took place (50) days after the passover, that was when the Holy Spirit was poured out upon man kind. Here is a list of the Holy Days I know then i used to keep them all for many years.

    Firist…………the Passover

    Scond……….the days of unleaven bread (seven days).

    thrid…………Pentecost or feast of weeks…….(fifty) days after the passover.

    fourth………. day of Atonement

    Fifth………… the day of trumpets

    sixth………… the feast of tabernacles

    seventh…….. the Last Great Day

    These are the seven Holy Days given by GOD the the Israelites. You have your time periods mixed up Pentecost was fifty day after the passover look it up.

    peace and love…………………gene

    #203447
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 13 2010,01:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ July 10 2010,03:32)
    [
    Jesus returned at Pentecost, yet with some their eyes were holden that they should not know him! (John 14:23)

    Luke 24:13-34 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus,
    which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs. And they talked together of all these
    things which had happened. And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned,
    Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
    And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk,
    and are sad? And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger
    in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?


    ED J…………That took place just after Jesus' resurrection three days after he died. the Day of Pentecost took place (50) days after the passover, that was when the Holy Spirit was poured out upon man kind.  Here is a list of the Holy Days  I know then i used to keep them all for many years.

    Firist…………the Passover

    Scond……….the days of unleaven bread (seven days).

    thrid…………Pentecost or feast of weeks…….(fifty) days after the passover.

    fourth………. day of Atonement

    Fifth………… the day of trumpets

    sixth………… the feast of tabernacles

    seventh…….. the Last Great Day

    These are the seven Holy Days given by GOD the the Israelites. You have your time periods mixed up Pentecost was fifty day after the passover look it up.

    peace and love…………………gene


    Hi Gene,

    The Theomatic formula of [63+54=117] helps to conclusively prove “YHVH is GOD”=117.

    “YHVH”=63 as the “Spirit [of] God” (God Spirit=117) indwells in mankind starting after
    a 54-day period which began at the crucifixion and ended at Pentecost. On day four,
    Jesus is living again, “GOD the Father”=117 raised Him back to life (Gal.1:1).
    Pentecost in Greek means fifty; which started fifty days after the resurrection.
    Pentecost brings a close to the fifty-four day period that began at Jesus’ death.
    “Pentecost”=117 therefore began 54 days after the crucifixion.

    “YHVH”=63 plus the 54 days it took prior to “Pentecost”=117 starting,
    can therefore be mathematically (Theomatically) stated as (63+54=117).
    This formula lends strong support to the claim of English Gematria
    in general and stronger evidence that “YHVH is GOD”=117.
    The evidence of God’s existence is beginning to shine.

    God is also seen clearly through the use of Prime Number Counterparts.
    “GOD”=26 raised Jesus back to life because God is the “Tree of Life”=101;
    101 is the 26th prime number in a long list of prime numbers starting with two.

    PS> “Christian” equals 101 as well!

                The Passover“=148
                      [74+74=148]  
    Jesus=74 + cross=74 = (פסח=148) “The Passover”=148

                   Pentecost“=117      
                  Former Rain=117
           (Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
      63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
    +54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
    117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]

               
                 The Latter Rain=151
                Feast of Booths“=151
              (Feast [of] Tabernacles=151)
               “Jesus is Lord”=151,
    because “HolySpirit”=151 (Jesus' Father) is…
         “The LORD JEHOVAH”=151
             Click Here for more

                                YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
    the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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