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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2012,12:39) Hi T8,
So we all need the equipment you wear?
Not sure what you mean, but sense that no is the answer.Quote (princess @ June 15 2012,15:29) So just to get this straight about the penalty squares. Someone ask a question
It must be answer correctly by how the moderator interprets truth
Then the moderator depending on their mood will decide if they are satisfied with the answer.
If no satisfaction is attained then a square will be awarded.
Some one asks a question in the Hot Seat and if the question is fair and not loaded, then you can answer it.“I don't know” is a sufficient answer, so if you know, give the answer and if you don't know admit it, so that people can fairly evaluate what you are teaching and from what basis the teaching comes. Is it evil to want to know this?
It is not about answering it correctly, but that you answer honestly.
It's about trying to curb dodgers who dodge questions because they expose the persons doctrine. It is not a punishment for answering a question with the wrong answer, but a punishment for not being honest and deceiving people intentionally.
We are encouraged in scripture to always have an answer to that which we believe and is it not fair that we get an answer to a question, especially if that question is something you are teaching.
My guess is that the only people who hate this, are people who have something to hide or are not completely honest. Why would an honest person hate this? They wouldn't.
And remember, that we are subject to the same rules. And I have always been happy to answer any question that people give to me because I believe in honesty and think that humility is honorable.
When I say any question, I mean relevant questions. Not my PIN number or other such unrelated questions. Such questions is up to the Moderator to determine if the question is a fair one.
Relax people. If you are honest then what do you have to worry about.
If you can't handle this level of honesty, then how will you fair when you are judged by God?
Quote (princess @ June 16 2012,01:47) Hello T, I cannot see how suggesting Nick as a moderator will change the outcome of the number of posters on this forum nor the continued endless debates.
Nor do I see where this devil will come along and strip everyone's belief from them, and take control over them.
And if you are going to throw the christian card, then may I suggest 'fair weights and measures' be applied. For as it stands this method is not in use. Perhaps a casting of lots for another moderator.
Really think about this T, a moderators position is to be a watchmen over the board to protect the flock.
A moderator should not be the one crying wolf.Just my thoughts though.
Moderators take complaints about a posts and judge them accordingly to the rules.Moderators are also members and should expect the same protection of defaming posts against them.
Moderators have been chastised by the moderation system in the past.
Honestly, the level of paranoia by some here reminds me of a mind set I came across by some when I was a teenager. I knew people who hated the police because they were guardians of the law and that was the only reason. They seemed unable to judge with a sober mind, and let their biases rule their thinking.
When people are given a responsibility, they are not automatically evil or untrustworthy. No, you should judge with the same measure you judge anyone else.
If you have wisdom, you will know what I am talking about.
T8,
I would like to file a complaint, due to my questions has not been answered honestly. Please instruct me on how to do this, because it would be my first time and for good measure I will send you off a box of crispy cream donuts
LOL.Quote (princess @ June 16 2012,05:47) Hello T, I cannot see how suggesting Nick as a moderator will change the outcome of the number of posters on this forum nor the continued endless debates.
Nor do I see where this devil will come along and strip everyone's belief from them, and take control over them.
And if you are going to throw the christian card, then may I suggest 'fair weights and measures' be applied. For as it stands this method is not in use. Perhaps a casting of lots for another moderator.
Really think about this T, a moderators position is to be a watchmen over the board to protect the flock.
A moderator should not be the one crying wolf.Just my thoughts though.
PrincessQuote And if you are going to throw the christian card, then may I suggest 'fair weights and measures' be applied. For as it stands this method is not in use. what do you mean by ;FAIR WEIGHTS AND MEASURES; WOULD THIS BE IN TRUTH
I mean scriptural truth ??Hello T,
I do not believe that one must be a christian to understand that fair weights and measures be applied to their life. I am sure it was a common before it was written down. However, since christians take possession over the bible, and what is written in it, it is only fair to give them the ownership of such.
Have a good day T, take care of yourself. Hope you are doing well.
Quote (princess @ June 16 2012,07:03) Hello T, I do not believe that one must be a christian to understand that fair weights and measures be applied to their life. I am sure it was a common before it was written down. However, since christians take possession over the bible, and what is written in it, it is only fair to give them the ownership of such.
Have a good day T, take care of yourself. Hope you are doing well.
Princessfair weights and measures,is possible in all philosophies,but only one is related to the truth of scriptures ,and so is the perfect one.
I am ok still slowly walk toward the end of my live the way God sees it .
but fair weights and measures are in men and in Gods view different .right ?
T,
Visual this: The cow jumps over the moon. Now, tell me which way did the cow jump right to left or left to right?
Even though the statement clearly states that cow jumped over the moon, the direction of the jump is left for the reader to determine.
The same concept can be used in the passage:•Isaiah 45:5-6: “I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the Lord, and there is no other.”
Some take the cow as god jumped left to right, then others who take the cow as jesus will say no the cow jumped right to left.
And if one relies on experts and scholars, then they should be well aware that it is established when one has even a lesser god in their faith then that belief is placed in another category i.e triads, poly's ect. ect.
Nick will not confess in any way shape or form of another being a god, other then the ONE he serves. It is what it is with Nick, before one places him on the hot seat about what he believes why cannot one accept it is his belief and there are at times in our lives that even though three hundred people say so, does not make it true to ones heart.
It took me two years to figure out Nick's saying “kiss the son”.I will state it once again T, a moderators job is to watch over the flock, not to cry wolf. I have been on this forum for awhile now and even though Nick's answers has fustrated the best of them, he did not deter from understanding the concept of a moderators responsiblilty.
I understand you agree with Mikes teachings, however, even though you may be westing soon, does not mean you should hold an unteachable spirit, you can still learn and still grow T, isn't that what it is all about.
Don't become mean like some have become on this board. There will always be debates and the oh, that is not how I believe in such, however the odd addage of loving one another should and always be our top priority.
When you say something out of love for another, then it is true from the heart what can break that truth T?
Quote (princess @ June 17 2012,21:52) T, Visual this: The cow jumps over the moon. Now, tell me which way did the cow jump right to left or left to right?
Even though the statement clearly states that cow jumped over the moon, the direction of the jump is left for the reader to determine.
The same concept can be used in the passage:•Isaiah 45:5-6: “I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the Lord, and there is no other.”
Some take the cow as god jumped left to right, then others who take the cow as jesus will say no the cow jumped right to left.
And if one relies on experts and scholars, then they should be well aware that it is established when one has even a lesser god in their faith then that belief is placed in another category i.e triads, poly's ect. ect.
Nick will not confess in any way shape or form of another being a god, other then the ONE he serves. It is what it is with Nick, before one places him on the hot seat about what he believes why cannot one accept it is his belief and there are at times in our lives that even though three hundred people say so, does not make it true to ones heart.
It took me two years to figure out Nick's saying “kiss the son”.I will state it once again T, a moderators job is to watch over the flock, not to cry wolf. I have been on this forum for awhile now and even though Nick's answers has fustrated the best of them, he did not deter from understanding the concept of a moderators responsiblilty.
I understand you agree with Mikes teachings, however, even though you may be westing soon, does not mean you should hold an unteachable spirit, you can still learn and still grow T, isn't that what it is all about.
Don't become mean like some have become on this board. There will always be debates and the oh, that is not how I believe in such, however the odd addage of loving one another should and always be our top priority.
When you say something out of love for another, then it is true from the heart what can break that truth T?
PrincessQuote I will state it once again T, a moderators job is to watch over the flock, not to cry wolf. where is that flock
i only see teachers with a lack of understanding ,usually sheep do not bite,or snap like dogs,when a person quotes scriptures he should stand behind his own statement,and understanding , so that when faced with question on it ,he should be able to show the truth of his statement or accept that he was in an error ,if not doing so he becomes a dumper of words ,
Quote I understand you agree with Mikes teachings within limits ,Mike and I have different view on some subjects ,but on the main bible believes we are in line ,why are not the others may I ask ??
and we bring scriptures to show truth ,but of no use,scriptures are denied ,what we do
Quote still learn and still grow T, isn't that what it is all about. only the dead are stopping of learning,and I am not their yet
(close only)•Isaiah 45:5-6: “I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the Lord, and there is no other.”
Isa 45:4 For the sake of Jacob my servant,
of Israel my chosen,
I summon you by name
and bestow on you a title of honor,
though you do not acknowledge me.
Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not acknowledged me,
Isa 45:6 so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting
men may know there is none besides me.
I am the LORD, and there is no other.in verse 4 God says why he do all those things ,
understand that God works in the interest of the righteous ,the wicket people follow the will of God adversary ,this will come to an end in time when all the people of God are complete in their number,
Quote Don't become mean like some have become on this board. There will always be debates and the oh, that is not how I believe in such, however the odd addage of loving one another should and always be our top priority. when you say mean you have Mike in mind ,if yes ,I do not share that view,I like people that are honest and truthful ,for that reason I do not like Nick,Kerwin,Edj,and some others but if they would become honest and truthful to scriptures I would be happy overwhelmed in godly joy and love.
I do love Mike and T8 I find them truthful and honest in their quotes ,not twisting scriptures ,
Quote Visual this: The cow jumps over the moon. Now, tell me which way did the cow jump right to left or left to right?
Even though the statement clearly states that cow jumped over the moon, the direction of the jump is left for the reader to determine.this picture is wrong a cow to jump over the moon has to jump it in the middle or it would not be over but almost over
the moon his a ball.so their is no left or right .
Quote And if one relies on experts and scholars, then they should be well aware that it is established when one has even a lesser god in their faith then that belief is placed in another category i.e triads, poly's ect. ect. first we have to believe in God of the scriptures if you do not then you have nothing it would not matt
er what you know in the scriptures ,but if you believe in the God of scriptures then you should believe them because those are his words and believe them with your mind and heart without doubts,
then the truth of God will come to you ,this is the way ,the ones who do not practice this can be seen in their talks and quotes on this forum, and any where in the world were you can meet them but so are the true man that believe without doubts ,but they do not say the same as those who have doubts,
always nice to talk to you
Hi T8,
Those whose understanding is limited to greek wisdom think scripture is like simple maths.
But they have made their minds their gods and cannot grasp deeper things.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2012,00:42) Hi T8,
Those whose understanding is limited to greek wisdom think scripture is like simple maths.
But they have made their minds their gods and cannot grasp deeper things.
NYour words could be used against you ,
You have not shown that you have deeper knowledge in scriptures,
The only knowledge you show is twisting scriptures to make them align with your personal ideas,
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2012,01:31) Hi T,
So you say.
You need to stay in your carnal view?
NSo I can see,you always give the same answer to all,a carnal answer
Quote when a person quotes scriptures he should stand behind his own statement,and understanding , so that when faced with question on it ,he should be able to show the truth of his statement or accept that he was in an error ,if not doing so he becomes a dumper of words , One more time T, Nick will only confess that there is ONE TRUE GOD, no others.
Think of it as Kepha's vision, even though he was shown unclean foods and told to eat, he would not. The message of such was not to change what had been established, but to teach Kepha that others were allowed to hear the message of God.
Even though other gods are mentioned in scriptures he will not confess that they were gods, hence Nick is technically sticking to scritpures, due to the simple fact of
Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God.
To confess that there are other gods other then the ONE TRUE GOD is most likely blasphemey to Nick, and I am taking it that is what his carnal comments are referring to. Now I am not 100 positive, but I have read Nick's post longer then you or Mike.Quote and we bring scriptures to show truth ,but of no use,scriptures are denied ,what we do
Try to understand why the person sees it this way, not place them in the 'hot seat' (which is ironic in a way due to the whole burn for eternity message). Maybe there is a teaching within it the message somewhere, who knows T. There are thousands of scholar and experts that claim there is no god, are you going to take their word for it?Quote when you say mean you have Mike in mind ,if yes ,I do not share that view,I like people that are honest and truthful ,for that reason I do not like Nick,Kerwin,Edj,and some others but if they would become honest and truthful to scriptures I would be happy overwhelmed in godly joy and love.
This is due to the truth you see, do you not think the others have the same zeal as you do about what they believe as truth.
I like Kerwin always have, he reminds me of a monk always meditating, asking and seeking. Edj and his numbers, Kaballahism. Nick well he is Nick. Why do you hold things against them?Just a note T, I always watch for your post to make sure you are still around, I will miss you when you leave. Your a dear one to me anyhow. And your english has improved greatly, I knew it would. I still chuckle to this day when others for the last restort would make stupid comments about it, due to their lack of wanting to understand what you were saying.
Love you dearly, and I do hope when you go to your God, that you do so peacefully.
Much love
PrincessQuote (princess @ June 18 2012,09:56) Quote when a person quotes scriptures he should stand behind his own statement,and understanding , so that when faced with question on it ,he should be able to show the truth of his statement or accept that he was in an error ,if not doing so he becomes a dumper of words , One more time T, Nick will only confess that there is ONE TRUE GOD, no others.
Think of it as Kepha's vision, even though he was shown unclean foods and told to eat, he would not. The message of such was not to change what had been established, but to teach Kepha that others were allowed to hear the message of God.
Even though other gods are mentioned in scriptures he will not confess that they were gods, hence Nick is technically sticking to scritpures, due to the simple fact of
Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God.
To confess that there are other gods other then the ONE TRUE GOD is most likely blasphemey to Nick, and I am taking it that is what his carnal comments are referring to. Now I am not 100 positive, but I have read Nick's post longer then you or Mike.Quote and we bring scriptures to show truth ,but of no use,scriptures are denied ,what we do
Try to understand why the person sees it this way, not place them in the 'hot seat' (which is ironic in a way due to the whole burn for eternity message). Maybe there is a teaching within it the message somewhere, who knows T. There are thousands of scholar and experts that claim there is no god, are you going to take their word for it?Quote when you say mean you have Mike in mind ,if yes ,I do not share that view,I like people that are honest and truthful ,for that reason I do not like Nick,Kerwin,Edj,and some others but if they would become honest and truthful to scriptures I would be happy overwhelmed in godly joy and love.
This is due to the truth you see, do you not think the others have the same zeal as you do about what they believe as truth.
I like Kerwin always have, he reminds me of a monk always meditating, asking and seeking. Edj and his numbers, Kaballahism. Nick well he is Nick. Why do you hold things against them?Just a note T, I always watch for your post to make sure you are still around, I will miss you when you leave. Your a dear one to me anyhow. And your english has improved greatly, I knew it would. I still chuckle to this day when others for the last restort would make stupid comments about it, due to their lack of wanting to understand what you were saying.
Love you dearly, and I do hope when you go to your God, that you do so peacefully.
Much love
Princess
HI PrincessQuote One more time T, Nick will only confess that there is ONE TRUE GOD, no others. but I confess that also ;but scriptures says that the true God his the God of gods ,so their are other gods but not like him the true God,just as their are other truths beside God truth,but only Gods truth brings life ,so Nick is stuck and stopped in his tracks???
and so will not progressjust to say ,when I came to this forum the first thing I did was reading many of Nick quotes from 2004 and up, he made much sens but lately it stopped .
Quote Try to understand why the person sees it this way, not place them in the 'hot seat' (which is ironic in a way due to the whole burn for eternity message). Maybe there is a teaching within it the message somewhere, who knows T. There are thousands of scholar and experts that claim there is no god, are you going to take their word for it? try to see it ,is good but wen shown to him with scriptures that it does not support his views then what ,he still stand in his views so what happen here is that the person is not interested in scriptures truth but in his own ,and he becomes standing against Gods word, not mine ,
Quote This is due to the truth you see, do you not think the others have the same zeal as you do about what they believe as truth.
I like Kerwin always have, he reminds me of a monk always meditating, asking and seeking. Edj and his numbers, Kaballahism. Nick well he is Nick. Why do you hold things against them?yes I believe they have the same zeal , until you show them the scriptures that works against their own believe then the reaction becomes more truthful from the heart ,and now you can see that they do not have the same zeal as you,but they have their personal zeal to teach their own views to others but not in truth of God ,this make them my enemy not my brothers ,
Quote Just a note T, I always watch for your post to make sure you are still around, I will miss you when you leave. Your a dear one to me anyhow. And your english has improved greatly, I knew it would. I still chuckle to this day when others for the last restort would make stupid comments about it, due to their lack of wanting to understand what you were saying. I do the same ,and I am very much touched for your true concern and thank you from my heart in Christ ,
Hi T,
Focus on your own situation and do not worry about others.
Find the waters of eternal life.
Seek, Ask, KnockQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 19 2012,13:18) Hi T,
Focus on your own situation and do not worry about others.
Find the waters of eternal life.
Seek, Ask, Knock
Nit seems that you know but do not learn ,because you do not practice ,you do not practice because you do not love Christ or God ,and so do not believe ,and because you do not believe the truth does not reach you,
I always like to construct ,and scriptures talk s about construction ;;;
MT 7:24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock.
MT 7:26 “Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.Lk 6:46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?
Lk 6:47 I will show you what he is like who comes to me and hears my words and puts them into practice.
LK 6:48 he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation on the rock; and when a flood occurred, the torrent burst against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built.
LK 6:49 “But the one who has heard and has not acted accordingly, is like a man who built a house on the ground without any foundation; and the torrent burst against it and immediately it collapsed, and the ruin of that house was great.”1CO 3:10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it.
1CO 3:11 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1CO 3:12 Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw,EPH 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love
EPH 2:20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone,
1TI 6:19 storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed.2TI 2:19 Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, “ The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “ Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness.”
HEB 6:1 Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
so now that or if we have set those foundation in place we should be ready to build the next floor or elevation ,this does not mean that we can lay the foundation away ,after all they are the foundation that hold all the house ,and so the house has to be related to those foundation if not it will not stand ,
it is important to know all the components to make that house because they are many,BUT ANY WICKEDNESS IS NO PART OF IT ;;
NOT EVEN A SMALL LIE,;THEIR IS NO SUCH A THING AS SMALL LIE ,IT IS A LIE OR A TRUTH ,A MISTAKE IF RECOGNIZED IS NOT A LIE ,
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