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Nick,
This is what Jesus teaches along the lines of the original sin.
John 8:34
King James Version (KJV)34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
John 8:36
King James Version (KJV)36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
It is also written:
Romans 6:16
King James Version (KJV)16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
and
Romans 6:17
King James Version (KJV)17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Hi KW,
So nothing there about ORIGINAL SIN.
Sin dwells in men[rom7] and they do naturally serve sin.
But The Spirit can make us overcomers and we can be set free by the Son.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,04:43) Hi KW,
So nothing there about ORIGINAL SIN.
Sin dwells in men[rom7] and they do naturally serve sin.
But The Spirit can make us overcomers and we can be set free by the Son.
Nick,It is the result of the original sin that mankind does naturally serve sin because that is how he gained the knowledge of good and evil.
Otherwise what you say is true.
Hi KW,
Adam served Satan and all his sons are born into sin.
We must all be cleansed, empowered and become overcomersQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,17:25) Hi KW,
Adam served Satan and all his sons are born into sin.
We must all be cleansed, empowered and become overcomers
Nthe price is dead for anyone that sins ,so we all have to die,but what will happen to us after dead this is related to what we do now ,
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,05:25) Hi KW,
Adam served Satan and all his sons are born into sin.
We must all be cleansed, empowered and become overcomers
Nick,I agree.
Quote (kerwin @ April 16 2012,11:07) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,05:25) Hi KW,
Adam served Satan and all his sons are born into sin.
We must all be cleansed, empowered and become overcomers
Nick,I agree.
Hi Kerwin and Nick:This is the truth:
Quote Rom 5:12 ¶ Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned But no, we were not as infants sinners or born with sin because of Adam. Sin is defined as “the transgression of the Law”. How many infants do you know that have transgressed the Law?
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (942767 @ April 16 2012,09:15) Quote (kerwin @ April 16 2012,11:07) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,05:25) Hi KW,
Adam served Satan and all his sons are born into sin.
We must all be cleansed, empowered and become overcomers
Nick,I agree.
Hi Kerwin and Nick:This is the truth:
Quote Rom 5:12 ¶ Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned But no, we were not as infants sinners or born with sin because of Adam. Sin is defined as “the transgression of the Law”. How many infants do you know that have transgressed the Law?
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty,Scripture declares that all are servants of sin by nature. Jesus came to set us free. Nick is merely stating humans naturally serve sin; a nature that resulted from Adam's sin.
Hi KW,
Romans 6:17
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.Sin dwells within till we are delivered in water baptism
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,09:28) Hi KW,
Romans 6:17
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.Sin dwells within till we are delivered in water baptism
Nick,You are correct that the moment a believer receives the Spirit he receives his deliverance from God; but he has to persevere and walking by it to be truly delivered.
Kerwin and Nick……….If we recieved deliverance from sin at baptizem then why do we still sin and need to ask for forgiveness after we are baptized, I believe we are delivered from the (eternal) death Penalty to life, but that started a long judgement and correction process that takes a long time, longer for some then others. for judgement “Begins” at the house of God and again the LORD disciplines us and scourges every Son he excepts. after we are baptized we begin being shaped and fashioned into the full measure of the stature of Jesus by the Christos we recieved. We may be delievered from eternal death but there is a lot of fiery trials we must endure to conform to Son of the LIVING GOD. If you be without chastisement you simply are not a son or daughter of GOD IMO
peace and love to you both…………………………………………………………gene
True GB,
Submission of the mind to be transformed is the biggest obstacle.
Men prefer their own ideas despite scripture.
INTELLECT wants to rule.Nick………Nothing wrong with intellect if it is true intellect brother. That is the intellect given to us by the Spirit of TRUTH. From GOD HIMSELF> IMO
peace and love to you and yours brother………………………………………..gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2012,06:39) True GB,
Submission of the mind to be transformed is the biggest obstacle.
Men prefer their own ideas despite scripture.
INTELLECT wants to rule.
Nick……….Intellect is the MIND and it is what we use to submit to the WILL of GOD you can not separate the MIND from INTELLECT because Intellect is SPIRIT and functions (IN) the MIND. let this mind be (IN) you that was (IN) Christ Jesus our LORD we are told, now do you think that mind is not a (SPIRIT) intellect from GOD? We are changed by the renewing of our minds This is a transformation process that takes place over time. So we “GROW” in GRACE (AND) KNOWLEDGE. Right?peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene
Original sin came from the Persian doctrines; the Hebrews adopted it and wrote it into the edited OT books while in Babylon.
Colter
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 17 2012,06:55) Nick………Nothing wrong with intellect if it is true intellect brother. That is the intellect given to us by the Spirit of TRUTH. From GOD HIMSELF> IMO peace and love to you and yours brother………………………………………..gene
Hi GB,
Where is this intellect spoken of?
Intellect is the flawed bastion of vain men.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 19 2012,02:18) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 17 2012,06:39) True GB,
Submission of the mind to be transformed is the biggest obstacle.
Men prefer their own ideas despite scripture.
INTELLECT wants to rule.
Nick……….Intellect is the MIND and it is what we use to submit to the WILL of GOD you can not separate the MIND from INTELLECT because Intellect is SPIRIT and functions (IN) the MIND. let this mind be (IN) you that was (IN) Christ Jesus our LORD we are told, now do you think that mind is not a (SPIRIT) intellect from GOD? We are changed by the renewing of our minds This is a transformation process that takes place over time. So we “GROW” in GRACE (AND) KNOWLEDGE. Right?peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene
Hi GB,
Why dare add to the sacred words?Quote (Colter @ April 18 2012,22:00) Original sin came from the Persian doctrines; the Hebrews adopted it and wrote it into the edited OT books while in Babylon. Colter
Colter,Abraham came out of the land of Sumer. It is not a surprise that nearby Persia would have a heretical religion with similarities to the true faith.
Many religions have evolved away from the true faith.
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