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Wakeup if you don't mind,
Bodhitharta,
A delusion has set in lately to lead Christians to believe as Muslims do concerning the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Memory tells me that Muslims believe that Jesus will come and set foot on the earth and kill the anti Christ, and bring in a period of peace.
Is that correct?
Many Christians believe that also (such as Wakeup here). But I don't.
I believe with the eastern orthodox Christian church and the Lutherans, that Jesus' feet won't set foot on this planet. But after the destruction of the wicked, and the earth with fire (all will be gone) some people (God knows who) will be given divine protection from the fire and will still be standing. The Angels will then be sent out to gather them and they will rise and meet Jesus in the air, and so forever be with him.
This way is the bible way, and truth. It is simple and straight forward, and there is no confusion, and no CHANCE of being deceived by the false Christ, soon to come. This false Christ could be the one those Christians and Muslims are deceived by.
So it is a VERY important subject…

So please, tell me… How will YOU Bodhitharta KNOW that Jesus has returned? (I'm asking you Bod not Wakeup).

I don't think there will be much mystery to it at all, Jesus will return and it will be known how else could he be rejected if he is not known? How else would anyone oppose him if he is not known? Even if he doesn't step foot on the earth what is the problem here, foot or no foot? Before or after, what is the difficulty here, God is Just and no true believer will be lost.

The entire conversation is foolish do you think a “false Christ” will behave exactly like the True Christ and give all Glory to God? No the scriptures say the False Christ will make himself to be God the only people who will be deceived are all the Christians that believe that Jesus is God already. No Muslim could be deceived they will not accept any human to be God and never have, only the Christian can accept a False Christ claiming divinity and following this “God” the idea doesn't exist in Islam, so the question of how will Muslims know can't apply

Boditharta.

When the son of perdition/false prophet will run the world.
He will use the rfid chip to control the population.
No chip,no food, no nothing but persecution.
This is the time when the so called God worshippers will
be tested to the maximum.

Bow down to the false prophet and take his mark;or
refuse the chip,and stay with God.

Anyone who love father,mother,wife,children more than God is not worthy of God.

Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

wakeup.

John17:12 While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.

This was about Judas

boditharta.

Yes;judas was the son of perdition then.

Jesus kept his apostles except one.

wakeup.

December 7, 2013 at 6:00 am#363313

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So please, tell me… How will YOU Bodhitharta KNOW that Jesus has returned? (I'm asking you Bod not Wakeup).

Boditharta.

Bow down to the false prophet and take his mark;or
refuse the chip,and stay with God.

Anyone who love father,mother,wife,children more than God is not worthy of God.

Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

wakeup.

This was about Judas

boditharta.

Yes;judas was the son of perdition then.

Jesus kept his apostles except one.

wakeup.

So the scripture was fulfilled through Judas what “other” son of perdition are you speaking of?

December 7, 2013 at 9:36 am#363318

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These are worth watching.

December 7, 2013 at 12:47 pm#363321

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So please, tell me… How will YOU Bodhitharta KNOW that Jesus has returned? (I'm asking you Bod not Wakeup).

Boditharta.

Bow down to the false prophet and take his mark;or
refuse the chip,and stay with God.

Anyone who love father,mother,wife,children more than God is not worthy of God.

Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

wakeup.

This was about Judas

boditharta.

Yes;judas was the son of perdition then.

Jesus kept his apostles except one.

wakeup.

So the scripture was fulfilled through Judas what “other” son of perdition are you speaking of?

Bodytharta.

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick *let another take*.

This is speaking of Judas iscariot.
and his bishopprick let ANOTHER take.

Another will take his office; the son of perdition
in 2thes.2. He will sit as God in the temple of God
saying that he is God.

wakeup.

December 8, 2013 at 1:30 am#363370

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So please, tell me… How will YOU Bodhitharta KNOW that Jesus has returned? (I'm asking you Bod not Wakeup).

Boditharta.

Bow down to the false prophet and take his mark;or
refuse the chip,and stay with God.

Anyone who love father,mother,wife,children more than God is not worthy of God.

Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

wakeup.

This was about Judas

boditharta.

Yes;judas was the son of perdition then.

Jesus kept his apostles except one.

wakeup.

So the scripture was fulfilled through Judas what “other” son of perdition are you speaking of?

Bodytharta.

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick *let another take*.

This is speaking of Judas iscariot.
and his bishopprick let ANOTHER take.

Another will take his office; the son of perdition
in 2thes.2. He will sit as God in the temple of God
saying that he is God.

wakeup.

So only those who believe that Jesus could be God would believe in the False Christ that leaves out all Muslims and mostly all Christians especially all those who believe in the trinity.

December 8, 2013 at 6:46 am#363386

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So please, tell me… How will YOU Bodhitharta KNOW that Jesus has returned? (I'm asking you Bod not Wakeup).

Boditharta.

Bow down to the false prophet and take his mark;or
refuse the chip,and stay with God.

Anyone who love father,mother,wife,children more than God is not worthy of God.

Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

wakeup.

This was about Judas

boditharta.

Yes;judas was the son of perdition then.

Jesus kept his apostles except one.

wakeup.

So the scripture was fulfilled through Judas what “other” son of perdition are you speaking of?

Bodytharta.

Acts 1:20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick *let another take*.

This is speaking of Judas iscariot.
and his bishopprick let ANOTHER take.

Another will take his office; the son of perdition
in 2thes.2. He will sit as God in the temple of God
saying that he is God.

wakeup.

So only those who believe that Jesus could be God would believe in the False Christ that leaves out all Muslims and mostly all Christians especially all those who believe in the trinity.

Boditharta.

Not so easy:
When he the son of perdition comes;he will have control of all life necessities. No one can buy or sell without his mark.
Here is the choice to make: Bow down to him; or starve.
Here is where a strong faundation in faith is necessary.
Many muslems and atheists will reject the mark;but only for their own reasons. And it will be for political reasons.
Many will compromise,for their belly reasons.

wakeup.

December 8, 2013 at 9:09 am#363394

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The Antichrist could be a man who satisfies the credentials of the Mahdi, while those in Babylon may be led by a false prophet who points to the Mahdi as the one. We don't know. There are so many ways this could play out from our limited perspective.

December 9, 2013 at 3:38 am#363457

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The truth will show us the one
true way how this all will play out.

Isaiah 14:29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for
***out of the serpent's root shall come forth a
cockatrice***,
and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.

Nahum 1:5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.

Nahum 1:6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the
*rocks are thrown down by him*.

Nahum 1:7 The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.

Nahum 1:8 But with an overrunning flood he will make an utter end of the place thereof, and darkness shall pursue his enemies.

Nahum 1:9 ***What do ye imagine against the LORD***?
*** he will make an utter end***:
affliction shall not rise up the second time.

Nahum 1:10 For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.

Nahum 1:11 ***There is one come out of thee, that
imagineth evil against the LORD***,
***a wicked counsellor***.

Nahum 1:12 Thus saith the LORD; Though they be quiet, and likewise many, yet thus shall they be cut down, when *he* shall pass through. Though I have afflicted thee, I will afflict thee no more.

Nahum 1:13 ***For now will I break his yoke from off
thee***, and will
***burst thy bonds*** in sunder.

Nahum 1:14 And the LORD hath given a commandment concerning thee, that no more of
***thy name be sown***:
out of the house of thy gods will I cut off the graven
image and the molten image:
***I will make thy grave; for thou art vile***.

Nahum 1:15 Behold upon the mountains the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace! O Judah, keep thy solemn feasts, perform thy vows: for the wicked shall no more pass through thee; *he is* utterly cut off.

wakeup.

December 9, 2013 at 12:23 pm#363481

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If I remember rightly, the beast or the 10 kings burn the woman with fire.
And if the woman is Rome, then that could well be an Islamic Empire of 10 kings that destroys Rome.
And all those who refused to worship him have their heads cut off. A reference to Sharia Law?
Will be interesting how all this plays out.

I Just watched this. It argues that Rome is the woman.

December 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm#363506

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I Just watched this. It argues that Rome is the woman.

Totally shows lack of knowledge regarding history and Islam it was the Christian crusaders that were cutting the heads off of what they called infidels the Muslim leaders allowed the Christian fighters in most cases to live. There is no Sharia Law that says anyone should worship “Islam” and in Islam “There is no compulsion in religion” that is why there are Christian and Jewish populations in Islamic countries in fact Islam is the reason there still is a Jewish population as they protected the Jews from the Christians and that is HISTORICAL FACT

December 9, 2013 at 5:27 pm#363507

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I Just watched this. It argues that Rome is the woman.

Let the scriptures tell us who she, the whore is.

1. She is sitting on the seven heads.(not physical
heads/mountains).But kingdoms.
2.The first head is the kingdom of Egypt.
**Rome was not yet**.The seven heads are the seven
empires. Not physical hills or mountains.
3.The vatican is just part of the system (woman).
4. The woman is the whole system of the world.
men do worship this system of greed and oppressions,
and material luxuries.
5. Here is the real woman.
If you just spend some time to read it.

Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, *Babylon the great is fallen*, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

REV16:19.THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS ARE NO MORE.
(IN HEAPS).

Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and **the cities of the nations fell**: and *great Babylon* came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

GREAT CITY=JERUSALEM DEVIDED IN THREE.
GREAT BABYLON=THE CITIES OF THE *NATIONS*.

Revelation 18:3 For **all nations** have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and *the merchants* of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

ALL NATIONS:
THE MERCHANTS OF THE EARTH.

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

NOT ALL ARE CATHOLICS,*BUT ALL ARE IN BABYLON*.

Revelation 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

HER SINS: WAR FOR GREED,OPPRESSIONS,CHEATINGS,
LUST FOR THE MATERIAL,WORSHIPPING FALSE GODS.

Revelation 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

HER CUP IS FILLED WITH THE WINE TO MAKE THE NATIONS DRUNKEN.

Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

SHE IS RICH IN ALL THE MATERIAL THINGS THAT THE HEARTS OF MEN LUSTED FOR. SHE THINKS SHE CAN BE
FOREVER A QUEEN.(SATAN'S WOMAN).THE CITY OF CONFUSION.(BABYLON).
ZION IS GOD'S WOMAN,THE CITY OF PEACE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Revelation 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

REMEMBER:THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS WILL BE NO MORE.
SHE WILL BE NO MORE IN ONE DAY.

Revelation 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

NOT ALL KINGS OF THE EARTH ARE CATHOLICS,BUT ALL ARE OF BABYLON THE GREAT,AND BECOME RICH AND POWERFUL BECAUSE OF HER DELICACIES,AND HER
MERCHANDISE.

Revelation 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

A CITIE IS WHERE ALL DWELL IN SPIRITUALLY.
ALL ARE SPIRITUALLY IN HER. AL HAVE THE SAME MENTALITY DOING AND WANTING THE SAME THING.

Revelation 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

WHEN SHE IS BURNED UP;ALL THE MERCHANTS OF THE EARTH WILL HAVE NO MORE MERCHANDISE TO SELL.
IMPORT/EXPORT IS NO MORE. TRADE IS NO MORE.

Revelation 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

HERE ARE ALL THE MERCHANDISE MENTIONED.

Revelation 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

SOULS OF MEN=SLAVERY.

Revelation 18:14 And the fruits that *thy soul lusted after* are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

THE SOULS LUSTED FOR ALL THAT MERCHANDISE,AND
LUXURIES.IS NO MORE.

Revelation 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

THE BUSINESS MEN WILL WEEP AND WAIL.
THE HIGH WILL COME DOWN TO THE GROUND.

Revelation 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

REMEMBER THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS WILL BE NO MORE:(REV.16:19). (THIS DOES NOT FIT IN WITH THE VATICAN).
THE VATICAN/ROME WILL BE ONLY ONE OF THE CITIES.

Revelation 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And *every shipmaster*, and all the *company in ships*, and *sailors*, and as many as **trade by sea**, stood afar off,

HERE ARE SOME MORE IN DETAIL. THIS IS ALL ABOUT
THE WORLD TRADE (NOT ALL ABOUT THE VATICAN).

Revelation 18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

DONT SEE IT AS A PHYSICAL CITY ALTHOUGH THE PHYSICAL
BABYLON WILL BE DESTROYED.THE SPIRITUAL IS THE CONCEPT OF MENS THINKING ARE ALL THE SAME.
THEY ALL DWELL IN THE SAME CITY SPIRITUALLY.
THE CITY OF GREED,AND OPPRESSION.

Revelation 18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich *all that had ships* in the sea by reason of her *costliness*! for in one hour is she made desolate.

ALL THAT HAD SHIPS IN THE SEA ARE NOT ONLY CATHOLICS.

Revelation 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that *great city Babylon* be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

BABYLON THE GREAT WILL NEVER BE ANYMORE.

Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone sha
ll be heard no more at all in thee;

HERE SOME MORE DETAILS,ABOUT THE ENTERTAINMENTS
AND CRAFTS IN BABYLON.(TECHNOLOGY).
THE MILLSTONE=FACTORIES,NO MORE.

Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

THE LIGHT OF A CANDLE= ELECTRICITY,NO MORE.
MERCHANTS NO MORE.
THE SORCERIES ARE ALL THE ADVERTISINGS OF HER GOODS. HER TEMPTATIONS TO GET,GET,HAVE HAVE.

Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

SHE CAUSED ALL THE WARS ON THE EARTH,BECAUSE OF GREED AND WANT TO HAVE: AND KILLING THE INNOCENT
IN THE PROCESS.
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THE 10 KINGS ARE GOING TO EAT HER FLESH AND BURN HER WITH FIRE.REV17:16.

THIS IS HAPPENING NOW: THE 10 TOP ELITE ARE BANKRUPTING THIS WORLD SYSTEM(EATING HER FLESH).
AND WILL BURN HER WITH THE COMING WAR.
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A NEW SYSTEM READY TO TAKE PLACE.
THE FALSE PROPHET WILL BE THE KING OF THE NEW WO.
CHRISTIANS ARE HIS GREATEST ENEMY.

BABYLON THE GREAT IS THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF THINGS
SINCE THE KINGDOM OF EGYPT.

wakeup.

April 19, 2015 at 12:05 pm#794641

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It is impossible for Christians who study to be honest and still not change some of their beliefs

April 19, 2015 at 3:28 pm#794648

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Hi BD,

And your work is to try to confuse the flock and steal the lambs.

Keep it up. You are teaching us a lot about the wolf.

April 19, 2015 at 4:15 pm#794651

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Hi Nick

would you say the gospels are all in line with each other? If one says something completely different than the others what would that mean?

April 19, 2015 at 4:55 pm#794652

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Hi BD,

Did you expect that 4 observers would always see and hear exactly the same thing?

If they did you would claim they all copied each other.

Your work is to find and exploit variation and teach it as disparity?

April 19, 2015 at 5:06 pm#794653

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Hi BD,

Those who are not with us are against us.

Those who are not against us are with us.

The thing is that both of these statements, though different, are true.

They just speak of different groups.

It is a witness to the reality of the Holy Spirit that the 4 came so close to each other in their ability to recall things.

None spoke any untruth and each word is sacred.

jn 14.16

” But the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name,he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all I have said to you”

And the fact that there are four accounts is a witness to the truth of 2cor 13.1 and the parallel verses in the OT

“..Every fact is to be confirmed in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses”

April 19, 2015 at 5:09 pm#794654

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Hi BD,

Jesus was accompanied buy two groups, those who hung on every word and those who sought to entrap him.

Funny that you seem to work in a similar way to how the pharisees did.

They also organised his murder of course.

April 19, 2015 at 10:22 pm#794821

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Totally shows lack of knowledge regarding history and Islam it was the Christian crusaders that were cutting the heads off of what they called infidels the Muslim leaders allowed the Christian fighters in most cases to live.

Bod. My reference was to the end of times. Who is beheading people today?

Mostly those involved in Islam and the odd nutter here and there.

April 19, 2015 at 10:34 pm#794822

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It is impossible for Christians who study to be honest and still not change some of their beliefs

Clearly you are against us and our scriptures.

The reason why there is a Skeptic Area.

All this debate about you being closer to God in truth than many Christians is put into perspective with what you say here. This is what is in your heart, and let’s face it, we knew all along.

The scriptures have no contradiction. Eye witness accounts may have variation as you would expect. But they are recorded faithfully as to how they viewed things happen. No different to today. If an event took place, then many would see different view of it.

ALl scriptural prophecy is inspired of God. Show me a false prophecy in scripture?

April 19, 2015 at 11:07 pm#794823