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CO,
We understand mt15.24 here so perhaps you should try to teach your unique understandings where is is not obstructive to others.Hi,
No I think you are quite wrong there.
The sound of your foghorn continues but the sun has risen on usNH.
Foghorn? You seem to have exhausted all arguements, none made any sense anyway. Hey! I just had an idea, look up Ro.15:8, this explains it as well. Ro.15:8 …For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.Does this clear up your misunderstanding?
NH.
Foghorn? You seem to have exhausted all arguements, none made any sense anyway. Hey! I just had an idea, look up Ro.15:8, this explains it as well. Ro.15:8 …For I am saying that Christ has become the Servant of the Circumcision, for the sake of the truth of God, to confirm the patriarchal promises.Does this clear up your misunderstanding?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2009,16:40) Co,
Are you not of the new circumcision[Col2] uniting Jew and gentile?
NH.
Makes no difference to Jesus commission. (Matt.15:24)Nick……….have you ever once in you life admitted you were wrong Brother. Jesus was indeed commissioned to the Lost sheep of the house of Israel just as He said He was and to no one else, thats what the word (ONLY) means Nick, none is arguing about His words being Spiritual and Good for all to understand as you think Co is saying. Jesus said the words He was telling us were spirit and life we all know that, but that doesn't mean Paul's words were not spirit and life also. Paul did not speak word for word what Jesus did, He was not even there when Jesus was doing everything and speaking , He learned this latter, His words were not against Jesus , but His message was not one of Obedience under the works of Law. While Jesus told the Jews they were to keep the law. There is a difference in the teachings to those unders the law and those who weren't under it. Co has a good valid point Nick.
love and peace to you……………..gene
CO,
Mt 15
“24But
he
answered
and
said,
I
am
not
sent
but
unto
the
lost
sheep
of
the
house
of
Israel. ”So which word tell us about the message he brought?
NH.
This verse is Jesus speaking to whom His commission is to. Picking one word does NOT explain what His message was about. You're getting rediculous with your posts, try making some sense for a change. You're attempts to change Jesus words to mean something other than What He said, is getting boring. Why not give it up and accept what He said!!!CO,
As soon as you can show that the foundation of what you teach is sound we can move on.
Surely one of the words in Mt15.24 tells us what you insist on?NH.
I don't wish to debate this with you any more, lets just say “I believe what He said in Matt.15:24”, and you don't know, or you never said, what you believe He (Jesus) meant by what He said. If you would tell us what your understanding is that Jesus said in that verse, we could debate further, if not I will end this debate.CO,
So what did he say in Mt 15.24?Anything about restricting the teaching of Jesus to the Jews?
Was Paul disallowed from preaching to Jews having been sent to the gentiles?NH.
Seeing as you have no opinion on what you think Jesus meant by His statement in Matt.15:24, I see no point in debating this any longer. You critisize, but won't say what you think He means.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 21 2009,17:58) CO,
Mt 15
“24But
he
answered
and
said,
I
am
not
sent
but
unto
the
lost
sheep
of
the
house
of
Israel. ”So which word tell us about the message he brought?
CO,
It seems he said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.Why would you add to his words and say the teachings only should be for those he was sent to?
Nick,
I can see what chosen is saying when talking about Jesus being sent to the Jews. Jesus was sent to the JEWS for them to repent – they did not repent but crucified him – they were punished in 70AD and were dispersed into all nations and have endured tribulation …………. the teachings of Jesus are FOR us however they were not necessarily ABOUT us – when Jesus says woe to you pharisees – it can be applied to all those who continue in a pharisetical mindset but he was talking to those pharisees that were standing in front of him and was predicting their downfall and their judgment.
In John it says that Jesus came to his own (the Jews) and they received him not – he told the Jews that because they rejected him – the kingdom would be given to another (nation) bearing the fruit.
I guess we need to rightly divide what was specifically for the Jews and what is for us.
Hi MK,
Certainly the discussions with the Jews about details of the Law do not apply to us because gentiles have never been under the Law.Still the kingdom of King Jesus was being established by God and no christian can refuse that foundation stone and building on the rock of his teachings. No other foundation stone can be laid.
By comparison;
Who is Paul? Who is Cephas?
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