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Ok Iv been reading more,
…The Hadith Sahih Al-Bukari Book 52 number 176-177 states “Allah's Apostle said, “You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' “Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say.”O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”
…Chapter 9 verse 5 of the Quran… “When the forbidden months have past then fight and slay the pagans where you find them and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them In every stratagem of war….”
I didnt know things like this. Is it true?
ok here is more;
….”What's happening nowadays in the Muslim world has never happened before,” said Father Zakaria Boutros, an Egyptian Coptic priest who is one of the foremost evangelists to the Muslim world. He says a cross-section of Muslims are accepting Jesus Christ. “Young and old, educated and not educated, males and females, even those who are fanatic.
” …….many say a supernatural dimension is at work throughout the Islamic world.
“There is an end-time phenomenon that is happening through dreams and visions,” said Christine Darg, author of The Jesus Visions: Signs and Wonders in the Muslim World. “He is going into the Muslim world and revealing, particularly, the last 24 hours of His life – how He died on the cross, which Islam does not teach – how He was raised from the dead, which Islam also does not teach – and how He is the Son of God, risen in power.”… http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/212177.aspx
Please read these,
http://isaalmasih.net/isa/dreamsofisa.html
http://www.jesusvisions.org/index.shtml
http://www.morethandreams.org/dreamsofjesus.html
And watch these- I couldnt- (im on dial up)
https://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus
http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/watch.asp
I havent finished yet, but I have for now – cause its pretty late!
Ok I found one more and theres realated videos on the right.
http://video.google.com/videopl….3240397
I dont know what happened to you, though iv read some, but I was put off Christianity years ago, though I never had stopped believing in God or Jesus.
Actually Christianity had probably NEVER appealed to me, but I now know it wasnt Jesus I ever turned my back on, but Christianity itself as a Religeon and the people in it whom I considered mainly to be hypocrytes, I found more love in the 'other world'.But then I found Islam. It was good. But as you know my doubts pulled me away from that also.
Now I truely know, my heart is in both, but the truth is in Christianity (well My own version of it which is different than the majority!)
My strength has only grown! I have no fear. I know what I want to do.
I hope you will see it.I will be quiet now- for a while!
The reason im going on about dreams and visions is because it all fits in with prophecy,
It cant be ignored! Fair enough to be suspicious- if they were learning these things through people; trying to convert them,
but they're not this is beyond that!I hope you can see this.
There really is nothing to see, ALL muslims believe in and accept Christ as Christ. Christ is not God and therefore there really is no reason to put all our focus on him as at a point it is neglectful as Jesus told us to love GOD with ALL our hearts, souls and minds.
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Isaiah 42:7-9For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
Isaiah 48:10-121 Corinthians 15:41 (King James Version)
41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
Therefore we should give God(ALLAH) HIS full Glory.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 04 2010,17:20) There really is nothing to see, ALL muslims believe in and accept Christ as Christ. Christ is not God and therefore there really is no reason to put all our focus on him as at a point it is neglectful as Jesus told us to love GOD with ALL our hearts, souls and minds. I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Isaiah 42:7-9For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
Isaiah 48:10-121 Corinthians 15:41 (King James Version)
41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
Therefore we should give God(ALLAH) HIS full Glory.
Bod, iv heard you say that so many times,If you respect Jesus that is good, but to say he is no more than anyone else, to deny He was the one who- with God- created this world that we live in, to say God doesnt have a Son, to deny He was crucified, to say one book written a long time after is more valid than another, to follow Man and not God (cause thats what it is), ok so Jesus was not God, but He was of God and was more than a Man, and yet you would rather listen to a Man , than to the one who came down from Heaven!. You really do need to re-read the New Testement without the Quran which seems to undo all that was true!
Mohammad or Jesus?
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 04 2010,17:25) Now all chant: Asana, Asana, Asana. Stuart
Or: Stuart, Stuart, Stuart!Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 04 2010,15:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 04 2010,17:20) There really is nothing to see, ALL muslims believe in and accept Christ as Christ. Christ is not God and therefore there really is no reason to put all our focus on him as at a point it is neglectful as Jesus told us to love GOD with ALL our hearts, souls and minds. I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Isaiah 42:7-9For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.
Isaiah 48:10-121 Corinthians 15:41 (King James Version)
41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
Therefore we should give God(ALLAH) HIS full Glory.
Bod, iv heard you say that so many times,If you respect Jesus that is good, but to say he is no more than anyone else, to deny He was the one who- with God- created this world that we live in, to say God doesnt have a Son, to deny He was crucified, to say one book written a long time after is more valid than another, to follow Man and not God (cause thats what it is), ok so Jesus was not God, but He was of God and was more than a Man, and yet you would rather listen to a Man , than to the one who came down from Heaven!. You really do need to re-read the New Testement without the Quran which seems to undo all that was true!
Mohammad or Jesus?
You see what I mean? You ask Muhammad or Jesus as if I should worship either and I can't. I am obligated to Worship God and God alone.You act as though Jesus being Christ is not enough for you, but think, why did God anoint Jesus Christ if it was not such an Honor. I'm listening to Jesus he says to Worship “God/ALLAH” with ALL my heart, soul and mind and Muhammad says the same thing.
Who do you worship?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 05 2010,05:15)
You see what I mean? You ask Muhammad or Jesus as if I should worship either and I can't. I am obligated to Worship God and God alone.I didnt use the word worship Bod, I said 'who will you listen to? Who has the truth?
Because they both say 2 different things, when you really look at it closely.
Jesus said “I am the way the truth and the life, no-one comes to the Father but through me.Quote You act as though Jesus being Christ is not enough for you, but think, why did God anoint Jesus Christ if it was not such an Honor. I'm listening to Jesus he says to Worship “God/ALLAH” with ALL my heart, soul and mind and Muhammad says the same thing. It is good that that is what you do, I dont act like Jesus being the Christ is not good enough for me, only that he alone holds the truth.
Quote Who do you worship? God is who I love, Jesus is who I follow,
You know the contradictions in what Jesus and Mohammad both said, so to you, who holds the truth? One sent down from above or a Man from down here? Nobody has seen the Father, but the Son whom he sent.
Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 05 2010,09:26) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 05 2010,05:15)
You see what I mean? You ask Muhammad or Jesus as if I should worship either and I can't. I am obligated to Worship God and God alone.I didnt use the word worship Bod, I said 'who will you listen to? Who has the truth?
Because they both say 2 different things, when you really look at it closely.
Jesus said “I am the way the truth and the life, no-one comes to the Father but through me.Quote You act as though Jesus being Christ is not enough for you, but think, why did God anoint Jesus Christ if it was not such an Honor. I'm listening to Jesus he says to Worship “God/ALLAH” with ALL my heart, soul and mind and Muhammad says the same thing. It is good that that is what you do, I dont act like Jesus being the Christ is not good enough for me, only that he alone holds the truth.
Quote Who do you worship? God is who I love, Jesus is who I follow,
You know the contradictions in what Jesus and Mohammad both said, so to you, who holds the truth? One sent down from above or a Man from down here? Nobody has seen the Father, but the Son whom he sent.
What your saying makes no sense Muhammad didn't simply write the Quran it was given to him by Gabriel the same Gabriel that stands in the presence of God and the same Gabriel that told Mary what God was going to do and told Joseph to trust her. It was Gabriel that spoke to Zacharia about John the Baptist coming:And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.
Luke 1:18-20If they accepted the word of Gabriel why wouldn't Muhammad or you.
Jesus didn't come to Mary and say “I am about to be placed inside you” or to Joseph “trust Mary” because I am being born. No, It was Gabriel the same Gabriel that told Daniel the prophecy of the end times:
Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
Daniel 9:20-22and even in revelation it is known that at that time not all was known:
Revelation 10
1And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:2And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
8And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
9And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
Even Jesus said:
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
John 16:11-13What do you think you would not be able to bear?
Would you be able to bear that he didn't get killed or crucified
would you be able to bear that he was a son of God not unlike others who were righteous
What is it that Jesus would have said to them or you that you would not have been able to bear what little book is it that you don't want to eat that taste like honey but is bitter to swallow.
Which one of the favors of your Lord will you deny?
Say: Whoever is an enemy to gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah.s will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,- Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and apostles, to gabriel and Michael,- Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith.
Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #97-98
Quote What your saying makes no sense Muhammad didn't simply write the Quran it was given to him by Gabriel the same Gabriel that stands in the presence of God and the same Gabriel that told Mary what God was going to do and told Joseph to trust her. It was Gabriel that spoke to Zacharia about John the Baptist coming: And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.
Luke 1:18-20If they accepted the word of Gabriel why wouldn't Muhammad or you.
Jesus didn't come to Mary and say “I am about to be placed inside you” or to Joseph “trust Mary” because I am being born. No, It was Gabriel the same Gabriel that told Daniel the prophecy of the end times:
Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
Daniel 9:20-22and even in revelation it is known that at that time not all was known:
Revelation 10
1And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:2And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
8And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
9And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
Even Jesus said:
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
John 16:11-13But Mohammad didnt write the Quran, people after Him did. Just like people after Jesus wrote the Gospels. But there were 4 matching accounts. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. All in agreement. Who wrote the Quran? Where is the agreement? Where is the proof that all that was written in it were actually what Mohammad said or saw or did?
Quote What do you think you would not be able to bear? Many cannot bear the fact that they also will have to be hated, killed, that they will have to give up all they treasure on earth.
As did Jesus when he cried in the Garden.Quote Would you be able to bear that he didn't get killed or crucified The bible says (old and new testemant) that He was and did get crucified.
Quote would you be able to bear that he was a son of God not unlike others who were righteous He was the closest to God, and was there from the beginning, and through Him was the world created.
Quote Which one of the favors of your Lord will you deny? What do I deny?
Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 05 2010,10:20) Quote What your saying makes no sense Muhammad didn't simply write the Quran it was given to him by Gabriel the same Gabriel that stands in the presence of God and the same Gabriel that told Mary what God was going to do and told Joseph to trust her. It was Gabriel that spoke to Zacharia about John the Baptist coming: And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.
Luke 1:18-20If they accepted the word of Gabriel why wouldn't Muhammad or you.
Jesus didn't come to Mary and say “I am about to be placed inside you” or to Joseph “trust Mary” because I am being born. No, It was Gabriel the same Gabriel that told Daniel the prophecy of the end times:
Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
Daniel 9:20-22and even in revelation it is known that at that time not all was known:
Revelation 10
1And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:2And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
8And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
9And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.
Even Jesus said:
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
John 16:11-13But Mohammad didnt write the Quran, people after Him did. Just like people after Jesus wrote the Gospels. But there were 4 matching accounts. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. All in agreement. Who wrote the Quran? Where is the agreement? Where is the proof that all that was written in it were actually what Mohammad said or saw or did?
Quote What do you think you would not be able to bear? Many cannot bear the fact that they also will have to be hated, killed, that they will have to give up all they treasure on earth.
As did Jesus when he cried in the Garden.Quote Would you be able to bear that he didn't get killed or crucified The bible says (old and new testemant) that He was and did get crucified.
Quote would you be able to bear that he was a son of God not unlike others who were righteous He was the closest to God, and was there from the beginning, and through Him was the world created.
Quote Which one of the favors of your Lord will you deny? What do I deny?
Quote The bible says (old and new testemant) that He was and did get crucified. There is no mention of Jesus by name in the Old Testament.
Quote Many cannot bear the fact that they also will have to be hated, killed, that they will have to give up all they treasure on earth.
As did Jesus when he cried in the Garden.
Jesus told them how they would be treated I asked you what do you think Jesus meant when he said he can't tell them everything at that time because they could not bear it then?I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
John 16:11-13Quote Where is the proof that all that was written in it were actually what Mohammad said or saw or did? The Quran is not about Muhammad, he is not even mentioned by name more than a few times.
Quote He was the closest to God, and was there from the beginning, and through Him was the world created. If so, does being the closest to God mean you should give him the Glory of God, Gabriel is also in the presence of God and acted as a spokesman(logos) (Word) of God.
You continue to IDOLIZE Jesus do you really think that is best?
The funny thing is those who are against the Catholic Church practice the same things, it doesn't matter or not if you say Jesus is not God but then worship Jesus as God like the Catholics do and believe me you really worship Jesus as God. 85% of every post you make is regarding Jesus, not God.
Jesus is not your Lord or God if he was he wouldn't have said:
Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
John 15:14-16Jesus delivered his disciples to God, yet you
do not want to SUBMIT instead you have accepted the messenger as a partner and associate to the one who sent him. You do not declare The Almighty as Sovereign, this goes against the words of God AlmightyEven every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
Isaiah 43:6-8For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:17-19But you put partners with God.
Say: “O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah. that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.” If then they turn back, say ye: “Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah.s Will).
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #64)Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #48)“For me, I have set my face, firmly and truly, towards Him Who created the heavens and the earth, and never shall I give partners to Allah.”
( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #79)Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to Allah, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about Allah of which ye have no knowledge.
( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #33)Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 05 2010,10:01) What your saying makes no sense Muhammad didn't simply write the Quran it was given to him by Gabriel
2Cor.11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.Gal:1:8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.Why do you follow satan's LIES from the 'book of fraud'=114?
.Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2010,14:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 05 2010,10:01) What your saying makes no sense Muhammad didn't simply write the Quran it was given to him by Gabriel
2Cor.11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.Gal:1:8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.Why do you follow satan's LIES from the 'book of fraud'=114?
.
2 Corinthians 11:12-15 (King James Version)12But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
This has nothing to do with Muhammad it has everything to do with those preaching Christ at that time but wait read on:
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 12:2-4Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Galatians 3:12-For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
Romans 9:2-4Why do you keep speaking without knowledge.
ED, Is Jesus accursed?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 05 2010,15:23) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2010,14:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 05 2010,10:01) What your saying makes no sense Muhammad didn't simply write the Quran it was given to him by Gabriel
2Cor.11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.Gal:1:8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
.Why do you follow satan's LIES from the 'book of fraud'=114?
.
2 Corinthians 11:12-15 (King James Version)12But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
This has nothing to do with Muhammad it has everything to do with those preaching Christ at that time but wait read on:
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 12:2-4Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Galatians 3:12-For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
Romans 9:2-4Why do you keep speaking without knowledge.
ED, Is Jesus accursed?
The phony god you worship is accursed(Gal.1:8); because it is satan disguised as an angel(2Cor.11:14).Why do you choose to worship satan's lies? Discounting “The Bible”=63; The Word of “YHVH”=63.
You are worshiping the wrong god(satan)?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 05 2010,14:44) Quote The bible says (old and new testemant) that He was and did get crucified. There is no mention of Jesus by name in the Old Testament.
Quote Many cannot bear the fact that they also will have to be hated, killed, that they will have to give up all they treasure on earth.
As did Jesus when he cried in the Garden.
Jesus told them how they would be treated I asked you what do you think Jesus meant when he said he can't tell them everything at that time because they could not bear it then?I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
John 16:11-13Quote Where is the proof that all that was written in it were actually what Mohammad said or saw or did? The Quran is not about Muhammad, he is not even mentioned by name more than a few times.
Quote He was the closest to God, and was there from the beginning, and through Him was the world created. If so, does being the closest to God mean you should give him the Glory of God, Gabriel is also in the presence of God and acted as a spokesman(logos) (Word) of God.
You continue to IDOLIZE Jesus do you really think that is best?
The funny thing is those who are against the Catholic Church practice the same things, it doesn't matter or not if you say Jesus is not God but then worship Jesus as God like the Catholics do and believe me you really worship Jesus as God. 85% of every post you make is regarding Jesus, not God.
Jesus is not your Lord or God if he was he wouldn't have said:
Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
John 15:14-16Jesus delivered his disciples to God, yet you do not want to SUBMIT instead you have accepted the messenger as a partner and associate to the one who sent him. You do not declare The Almighty as Sovereign, this goes against the words of God Almighty
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.
Isaiah 43:6-8For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:17-19But you put partners with God.
I dont Idolize Jesus! Who said I do that? I idolize no-one. You need to know the difference. To listen to Jesus is MUCH different than that. Ok so sure you do get Christians who do that, but I dont! Jesus is not God, I know that?Lets say I was a queen (lol) and I had a Son, and sent him out to tell the people something. Would I expect them to worship Him? well, no not really that wouldnt make any difference. That wasnt the purpose. Would I expect them to listen to him? Yes! That was the whole purpose!
See thats what I do, I listen to The Son.You say 85% of my posts made are regarding Jesus, No- sorry, thats only when im talking with you!
Did you go to the links?
And you never answered: why do you listen to Mohammad instead of The Son? I explained to you why and told you the difference.
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2010,15:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 05 2010,15:23) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2010,14:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 05 2010,10:01) What your saying makes no sense Muhammad didn't simply write the Quran it was given to him by Gabriel
2Cor.11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.Gal:1:8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
.Why do you follow satan's LIES from the 'book of fraud'=114?
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2 Corinthians 11:12-15 (King James Version)12But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
This has nothing to do with Muhammad it has everything to do with those preaching Christ at that time but wait read on:
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 12:2-4Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Galatians 3:12-For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
Romans 9:2-4Why do you keep speaking without knowledge.
ED, Is Jesus accursed?
The phony god you worship is accursed(Gal.1:8); because it is satan disguised as an angel(2Cor.11:14).Why do you choose to worship satan's lies? Discounting “The Bible”=63; The Word of “YHVH”=63.
You are worshiping the wrong god(satan)?
There is no other god but God.These one who Paul spoke of are Apostles of Christ, Muhammad is not an Apostle of Christ so who was Paul talking about?
so who are these
Quote 13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers , could they be people like yourself that teaches whar Jesus did not teach?
Even Jesus said:
For he that is not against us is on our part.
Mark 9:39-41And yet you are against Islam that is for Christ so why do you work deceit and teach falsely?
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