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- June 16, 2010 at 1:42 am#197274bodhithartaParticipant
Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,12:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2010,10:12) Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,09:42) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2010,08:24) Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,04:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2010,03:55) Quote (Ed J @ June 16 2010,02:56) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 15 2010,05:43) ED, tell me on the day of pentecost did this happen?
1) For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:272) And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Mark 9:1
Hi BD,YHVH(63) + Sun(54) = 117
YHVH is GOD=117 and “is the Light”=117 of this world! (John 12:35 / Rev.21:32 / 1John 1:5)1) Works either get burned up…
1Cor.3:13-15 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for “the day”=63(YHVH=63) shall declare it,
because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.Or they follow us…
Rev.14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the
Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; and their works do follow them.
Eph.5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.2) The quran teaches you to deny the power of God; that's why others have turned away from you here at [heaven.].
2Tm.3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Matt.10:7-8 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick,
cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED,tell me on the day of pentecost did this happen?
1) For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 16:272) And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Mark 9:1ED,
Jesus did not return yet with the Holy Angels and reward each man according to their works so if Jesus tased death and everyone else at the time is dead today. The scriptures would be flawed otherwise Jesus never tasted death
Hi BD,John 9:27 [Ed J answered BD, I have told you already, and You did not hear:
wherefore would ye hear it again? will you also be one of Jesus Christ's disciples?]“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
It didn't happen on the day of pentecost
That's why you have 'antichrist'=121 'perception'=121!Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him
not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their
imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.Eph.4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated
from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them,
because of the blindness of their heart:
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ED,Did Jesus return on the day of Pentecost physically with the Holy Angels and reward each man according to their works? Yes or No?
Just be honest
Hi BD,He returned on the day of Pentecost with his father in spirit form. (John 14:23)
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
John 8:21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me,
and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come. (1 John 1:1-6)Ed J
so he did not return to judge each man according to his works.You should just admit when you are wrong that makes much more sense
June 16, 2010 at 1:52 am#197276karmarieParticipantBod, Jesus has not returned yet, that is to come, soon. But he was meaning that many standing in the crowd would not taste death because they would enter into LIFE which is being raised from the “Dead”, spritually. The flesh profits nothing.
Its like me, I was “dead” really. Spiritually. I was in this trap, darkness, confusion, sadness, lost, dead. But now im alive, I feel Gods power in my life, I feel good, happy, free, I could never be better, life has meaning, no matter what may happen im strengthened because everything good or bad has meaning now, and also when Jesus said “some would not taste death”, when he was crucufied , he rose from the death, so when believers in Christ face death of the flesh, theyre risen as promised in the Spirit.
Thats what He meant when he said some would not taste death, it has two meanings.
Thats how I understand it though its hard to word.
Ed, Jesus has returned?
Bod, Ed, watch how you quote, only quote if you really need to, only short bits if you know how, otherwise just answer as in have no quotes at all, like a conversation.
June 16, 2010 at 2:15 am#197281bodhithartaParticipantNo, he said “taste death” before he would come it was not a metaphor
June 16, 2010 at 2:29 am#197286Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2010,12:42) so he did not return to judge each man according to his works. You should just admit when you are wrong that makes much more sense
Hi BD,1Cor.2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are
foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.Ed J
June 16, 2010 at 2:32 am#197287Ed JParticipantQuote (karmarie @ June 16 2010,12:52) Ed, Jesus has returned?
Hi Karmarie,God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 16, 2010 at 3:01 am#197290Ed JParticipantQuote (karmarie @ June 16 2010,12:52) The flesh profits nothing.
Hi Karmarie,Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
If the flesh profits NOTHING then why do you put profit on the flesh?
Heb.13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
John 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they
would come and take him by force, to make him a king,
he departed again into a mountain himself alone.Matt.15:5-6 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift,
by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honor not his father or his mother,
he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 16, 2010 at 4:08 am#197295SimplyForgivenParticipantBod, doesnt pre-islamic concept of “allah” comes from the moon god of the arabs?
June 16, 2010 at 4:30 am#197302Ed JParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ June 16 2010,15:08) Bod, doesnt pre-islamic concept of “allah” comes from the moon god of the arabs?
BD said this to me…Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 09 2009,10:26) you said moongod=83 and “is satan=83 Then you try to be slick and put Lord + Allah and say=83
.June 16, 2010 at 7:04 am#197330bodhithartaParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ June 16 2010,15:08) Bod, doesnt pre-islamic concept of “allah” comes from the moon god of the arabs?
No, In-fact Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs were already calling God “ALLAH” before the revelation came down to Muhammad and that is because ALLAH is Arabic for “THE GOD”now there have bben pagans in the past who jave thought that Allah or Yahweh was simply another god or a certain god but that was out of ignorance
June 16, 2010 at 12:13 pm#197346Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2010,18:04) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 16 2010,15:08) Bod, doesnt pre-islamic concept of “allah” comes from the moon god of the arabs?
No, In-fact Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs were already calling God “ALLAH” before the revelation came down to Muhammad and that is because ALLAH is Arabic for “THE GOD”now there have bben pagans in the past who jave thought that Allah or Yahweh was simply another god or a certain god but that was out of ignorance
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2Cor.4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them
(BD)which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of
Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.Jer.10:10-12 But the LORD(YHVH) is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king:
at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.
Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods(BD's and the like) that have not made the heavens and
the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He hath made
the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out
the heavens by his discretion. (Gen.1:1 / Isaiah 45:12 / Jeremiah 23:24-27 / Colossians 1:16)
.June 16, 2010 at 1:28 pm#197349SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2010,18:04) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 16 2010,15:08) Bod, doesnt pre-islamic concept of “allah” comes from the moon god of the arabs?
No, In-fact Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs were already calling God “ALLAH” before the revelation came down to Muhammad and that is because ALLAH is Arabic for “THE GOD”now there have bben pagans in the past who jave thought that Allah or Yahweh was simply another god or a certain god but that was out of ignorance
Bod,If my history serves me correct, Arab nations originaly called a certain moon god -Al'lah who marrried the sun god and what not and than had children. What warrents do you have to say that early christians called God allah.
Wasnt the father and grandfather of Muhammed have allah within their names?
Allah was not a universal term for God.
You seem to beleive that everyone spoke arabic.
Espeacily in the roman empire.June 16, 2010 at 3:23 pm#197365bodhithartaParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,00:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2010,18:04) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 16 2010,15:08) Bod, doesnt pre-islamic concept of “allah” comes from the moon god of the arabs?
No, In-fact Christian Arabs and Jewish Arabs were already calling God “ALLAH” before the revelation came down to Muhammad and that is because ALLAH is Arabic for “THE GOD”now there have bben pagans in the past who jave thought that Allah or Yahweh was simply another god or a certain god but that was out of ignorance
Bod,If my history serves me correct, Arab nations originaly called a certain moon god -Al'lah who marrried the sun god and what not and than had children. What warrents do you have to say that early christians called God allah.
Wasnt the father and grandfather of Muhammed have allah within their names?
Allah was not a universal term for God.
You seem to beleive that everyone spoke arabic.
Espeacily in the roman empire.
Pagan practices may have allowed for such a thing just like the pagans view of Yahweh the God of Israel but clearly in The Quran and The Bible these things simply don't exist one of the main things Muhammad is known for is destroying all the false idols that the Pagans and polytheists worshipped.Historians of the ancient near east offer viewpoints that describe worship of Yahweh as originating in pre-Israelite peoples of the Levant and evolving gradually from polytheism to monolatry to monotheism rather than the traditional view that worship of Yahweh was monotheistic from its beginning with the revelation to Moses at the burning bush.[112] Theophoric names, names of local gods similar to Yahweh, and archaeological evidence are used along with the Biblical source texts to build theories regarding pre-Israel origins of Yahweh worship, the relationship of Yahweh with local gods, and the manner in which polytheistic worship of Yahweh worship evolved into Jewish monotheism.[113]
In pre-Islamic Arabia, gods or goddesses were viewed as protectors of individual tribes, their spirits being associated with sacred trees, stones, springs and wells. As well as being the site of an annual pilgrimage, the Kaaba shrine in Mecca housed 360 idol statues of tribal patron deities. Aside from these gods, the Arabs shared a common belief in a supreme deity called Allah (literally “the god”), who was remote from their everyday concerns and thus not the object of cult or ritual. Three goddesses were associated with Allah as his daughters: Allāt, Manāt and al-‘Uzzá. Monotheistic communities existed in Arabia, including Christians and Jews.[36] Hanifs – native pre-Islamic Arab monotheists – are also sometimes listed alongside Jews and Christians in pre-Islamic Arabia, although their historicity is disputed amongst scholars.[37][38] According to Muslim tradition, Muhammad himself was a Hanif and one of the descendants of Ishmael, son of Abraham.[39]
Essentially when you have those who believe in many “gods” it usually includes the knowledge of God Almighty but not understood that God Almighty actually really is God.
June 16, 2010 at 11:59 pm#197479karmarieParticipantBod, on many sites and in thoughts today, Islam is the beast of revelations which decieves the whole world (Middle east) what do you think of this?
June 17, 2010 at 12:18 am#197484karmarieParticipantEg, here..
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/index.htmJune 17, 2010 at 1:06 am#197499bodhithartaParticipantQuote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,10:59) Bod, on many sites and in thoughts today, Islam is the beast of revelations which decieves the whole world (Middle east) what do you think of this?
I don'tJune 17, 2010 at 1:32 am#197506Ed JParticipantQuote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,11:18) Eg, here..
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/index.htm
Hi Karmarie,Sweet!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 17, 2010 at 1:32 am#197507Ed JParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,12:06) Quote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,10:59) Bod, on many sites and in thoughts today, Islam is the beast of revelations which decieves the whole world (Middle east) what do you think of this?
I don't
2Tm. 3:13: But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
.June 17, 2010 at 2:32 am#197524karmarieParticipantQuote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,14:06) Quote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,10:59) Bod, on many sites and in thoughts today, Islam is the beast of revelations which decieves the whole world (Middle east) what do you think of this?
I don't
Bod, (just rushing through) you should think about it.What if its true?
Have you read the book of revelation? Heard the words of Jesus and Paul etc on the last days?the book of rev is pretty confusing though. Its symolically written. Not many people can figure it out.
June 17, 2010 at 2:34 am#197525karmarieParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 17 2010,14:32) Quote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,11:18) Eg, here..
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/index.htm
Hi Karmarie,Sweet!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
hah , yeah, I havent finished with you yet either Ed.June 17, 2010 at 2:42 am#197531bodhithartaParticipantQuote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,13:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,14:06) Quote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,10:59) Bod, on many sites and in thoughts today, Islam is the beast of revelations which decieves the whole world (Middle east) what do you think of this?
I don't
Bod, (just rushing through) you should think about it.What if its true?
Have you read the book of revelation? Heard the words of Jesus and Paul etc on the last days?the book of rev is pretty confusing though. Its symolically written. Not many people can figure it out.
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