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June 22, 2009 at 10:24 pm#134233

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100 Arguments for Monotheism being the focus of scripture

BECAUSE JEHOVAH ESTABLISHES HIMSELF TO BE A FIRST-PERSON-SINGULAR IDENTITY
1) Gen 17:1
God establishes his identity for Abraham, as Moses recorded; “And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, {H} Jehovah [the LORD] appeared to Abram, and said unto him, {G} egw eimi o` theos sou ; walk before me, and be thou perfect.”[Gen 17:1]

Egw is first-person-singular personal pronoun “I”
eimi is first-person-singular verb “am”

And Abraham is addressed as a singular-person entity.
sou is second person-singular pronoun “you”

BECAUSE GOD ASSERTS HE IS A SINGLE PERSON BEING
2) Exo 3:14
A “being” who used “first-person-singular” pronouns to describe himself in Exo 3:14 –

I…….. egw = nominative singular pronoun
am….. eimi = indicative present active 1st person s.
the….. o` = nominative masculine s. definite article
being..wn = participle nominative present active
masc. s.

BECAUSE JEHOVAH WILL RAISE A MAN FROM AMONG MEN
3) Deut. 18:15-18 Moses wrote concerning a prophet that was to be raised from among Israel.
“The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.”

Companion references:
3a) John 1:45 “Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.”

3b) Acts 3:20 “And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear THAT PROPHET, shall be destroyed from among the people. 24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.”

3C) John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou THAT PROPHET? And he answered, No. 25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither THAT PROPHET?

3d) John 6:14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth THAT PROPHET that should come into the world.

3e) John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am HE [THAT PROPHET], ye shall die in your sins.

BECAUSE JESUS, JEHOVAH, AND “OUK MONOS” ARE SIGNIFICANT TO SCRIPTURE.
4a) God identified himself as El Jehovah.
Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith El Jehovah [God the LORD], he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

4b) JESUS WITH JEHOVAH = 'OUK MONOS
Jesus said that when he and the Father are together, they are “ouk monos” [not alone].
John 16:32 Behold, the hour cometh, yea, is now come, that ye shall be scattered, every man to his own, and shall leave me monon [alone]: and yet I am 'ouk monos [not alone], because the Father is with me.

JEHOVAH MONOS CREATED
4c) Yet, El Jehovah said He monos [alone] created heaven and earth
Isa 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens monos [alone]; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

BECAUSE “EL” WITH US IS THE SON OF EL, NOT EL HIMSELF
5a) And this El named Jehovah said a virgin will bear a son, and his name shall be called “Immanuel.”
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

5b) Which Mat 1:23 tells us means “God with us.” “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

BECAUSE SON OF EL NOT EQUAL WITH GOD
6a) Then God brings something to our attention through a deliberate question, knowing man's propensity for making comparisons and making things equal. He tells us by his question, to consider that none of the sons of El are equal to him. Psa 89:6 For who in the heaven can be compared unto Jehovah [the LORD]? who among the sons of El [the mighty] can be likened unto Jehovah [the LORD]?

6b) And in case we miss his point, he asks it again: “To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One.” [Isa 40:25]

6c) And if twice is not enough, he brings it to our attention yet a third time: “To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?” [Isa 46:5]

BECAUSE IMMANUEL HAD A “BEGIN” DAY
7a) El Jehovah tells us something else about this son of El that becomes significant later on. He tells us of a starting point, a “begetting,” a causing to be of one who is to be Messiah. Psalm 2:7 “I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I [gegenneeka (gennaw) v.ind.perfect.act.1st.s] begotten thee.” That this is a reference to the resurrection is made very clear in Acts 13:33, and in Hebrews 1:5 and 5:5.

BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH LUKE ESTABLISHES THIS “DAY” AS THE DAY OF THE RESURRECTION.
7b) “For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him. 28 And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain. 29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. 30 But God raised him from the dead: 31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people. 32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, 33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.” [Acts 13:27-33]

AND IN THE BOOK OF HEBREWS IT IS ESTABLISHED TWICE
7c) Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

7d) Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

BECAUSE GOD CREATED JESUS CHRIST AS A MAN
8a) Isaiah 45:12 I have [epoieesa (poiew) indicative aorist active 1st person singular verb] made the earth, and [anthrwpon ep autees] man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

8b) Hebrews 3:2 Who was faithful to him that [poieesanti (poiew) Dative masculine singular aorist active participle] appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.

8c) Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that [poieesanti (poiew) Dative masculine singular aorist active participle] made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

BECAUSE GOD MADE THIS JESUS A LITTLE LOWER THAN ELOHIYM
9a) What is [anthrwpos] man, that thou art mindful of him? and the [uios anthrwpou] son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made h
im a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. 6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet: 7 All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field; 8 The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas. [Psa 8:4-8]

9b) “For thou hast made him a little lower than the [Elohim] angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.” [Psa 8:5]

9c) For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.[Heb 2:16]

BECAUSE JESUS IS DECLARED TO BE THE SON OF THE ONLY TRUE GOD, NOT TRUE GOD HIMSELF
10) Jesus not only said that he is the son of God, but, spoke of his Father who sent him, as “the only true God.” This is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent, John 17:3.
Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, THE SON OF THE FATHER, in truth and love. [II John 1:3]

BECAUSE GOD TESTIFIES OF JESUS
11) And lo, a voice from heaven, saying, this is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased, Matt 3:17. Why doesn't God testify that Jesus is his co-equal deity?

BECAUSE HE IS THE CHRIST, THE ANOINTED APOSTLE OF GOD
12a) Consider the Apostle,…Christ Jesus, who was faithful to him that appointed him, Heb. 3:1, 2.

12b)God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, Acts 10:38. God is not anointed. God anoints. And he does not anoint Gods, but MEN.

BECAUSE HE IS A HIGH PRIEST. GOD IS NOT A PRIEST
13) Consider the High-Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus, Heb. 3:1. Priests minister before God. Gods do not minister. They create angels to minister, and anoint men to minister.

BECAUSE THERE IS A MAN WHO IS MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN
14) For there is one God, and one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Tim. 2:5.

BECAUSE JESUS WAS SENT TO BE A SAVIOUR
15) Because, as the Saviour of men, he was sent by the Father. “And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14.

BECAUSE JESUS OFFERS CONTRASTING CHOICE – “ME” OR “GOD.”
16) If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. [John 7:17]

BECAUSE JESUS IS NOT THE AUTHORITY, HE IS IN A CHAIN OF AUTHORITY
17) But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. I Cor 11:3

BECAUSE GOD FROM HEAVEN SENT JESUS
18a For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. John 6:38.

BECAUSE JESUS CAME FROM GOD AND WENT TO GOD, THEREFORE WAS NOT GOD
18b) Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not. 29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me. John 7:28-29

18c) Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. John 8:42

18d) Jesus knowing… that he came from God, and went to God,” John 13:3.

BECAUSE JESUS' AUTHORITY “CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN”
19a) “And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority? 24 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I also will ask you one thing, which if ye tell me, I in like wise will tell you by what authority I do these things. 25 The baptism of John, whence was it? FROM HEAVEN, or OF MEN? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say unto us, Why did ye not then believe him? 26 But if we shall say, Of men; we fear the people; for all hold John as a prophet. 27 And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said unto them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things.”[Mat 21:23-27]
19b) [Mark 11:27-33]
19c) [Luke 20:1-8]

“BY WHAT AUTHORITY” – IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT “AUTHORITY.”
19d) Jesus told the Pharisees: “And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.” [John 8:23]

19e) But he said of his disciples: “I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, (ARE YOU READY FOR THIS?) EVEN AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD. 15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.” [John 17:14-16]

BECAUSE GOD GAVE JESUS AUTHORITY TO JUDGE
20) And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. John 5:27

BECAUSE IF JESUS IS GOD SCRIPTURE IS FALSE
21) no man hath seen God at any time John 1:18.

BECAUSE JESUS IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF HIS DOCTRINE
22) My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me… John 7:16, 17.

BECAUSE JESUS HAS A GOD
23) Jesus saith unto her…I ascend unto… my God and your God, John 20:17.

BECAUSE WE BELONG TO CHRIST AS CHRIST BELONGS TO GOD
24) And ye are Christ’s; and Christ is God’s I Cor. 3:23.

BECAUSE JESUS IS LESS THAN THE FATHER
25) My Father is greater than I John 14:28

BECAUSE WE ARE ONE WITH JESUS AND THE FATHER
26) that they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us,” John 17:21

BECAUSE WE ARE MADE PERFECT WITH CHRIST IN ONE
27) I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; John 17:23

BECAUSE JESUS INTERCEDES WITH GOD FOR US
28) It is Christ… who also maketh intercession for us, Rom. 8:34.

BECAUSE THERE IS ONE GOD, THE FATHER
29) yet to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things,” 1 Cor. 8:5- 6.

BECAUSE JESUS IS NOT THE ONE GOD THE FATHER
30) Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. II John 1:3

BECAUSE GOD COMMANDED JESUS
31) The Father, who sent me, he gave me a commandment John 12:49.

BECAUSE JESUS' POWER WAS NOT HIS OWN
32) All power is given unto me Matt 28:18.

BECAUSE GOD WORKED THROUGH JESUS
33) The Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works, John 14:10.

BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT WORKED THROUGH JESUS
34) If I cast out devils by the spirit of God Matt. 12:28.

BECAUSE JESUS' WORKS TESTIFY THAT GOD SENT HIM
35) “… the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. John 5:36.

BECAUSE JESUS' NAME IS NOT THE AUTHORITY BY WHICH HE DID HIS WORKS
36) Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in MY FATHER'S NAME, they bear witness of me. John 10:35

BECAUSE JESUS DID NOT KNOW ALL THINGS
37) As my Father hath taught me, I speak these things,” John 8:28.

BECAUSE GOD GAVE JESUS LIFE
38) For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; John 5:26

BECAUSE JESUS TOTALLY DEPENDS UPON ANOTEHR FOR INSTRUCTION
39a). Because he acknowledges his dependence on his Heavenly Father for example and direction in all his doings. The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do, John 5:19.

39b) The Father loveth the Son, and showth him all things that himself doeth John 5:20.

BECAUSE GOD THE FATHER IS THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY
40) To sit on my right and on my left is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father Matt. 20:23.

BECAUSE GOD RECEIVED PRAYER FROM HIS SON
41) he continued all night in prayer to God Luke 6:12.

BECAUSE GOD HEARS JESUS PRAY THEREFOR
E JESUS IS NOT GOD
42) Because, in presence of a numerous company before the resurrection, he gave thanks to the Father for having heard him. “Father, I thank thee that thou has heard me, and I knew that thou hearest me always,” John 11:41, 42.

BECAUSE GOD THE FATHER SEALED THE SON
43) Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. John 6:27

BECAUSE GOD HAS ATTRIBUTES NOT GIVEN TO JESUS –
44) As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father John 6:57

BECAUSE GOD HAS LIFE AND GIVES LIFE – JESUS RECEIVES LIFE
45) As the Father hath life in himself, so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself John 5:26.

BECAUSE GOD HAS ALL POWER, JESUS HAS NONE
46) I can of mine own self do nothing John 5:30.

BECAUSE GOD KNOWS ALL, JESUS DOES NOT
47) But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but my Father only,” Matt.24:36, Mark 13:32.

BECAUSE GOD CANNOT BE TEMPTED WITH EVIL, JESUS CAN
48a) God can not be tempted with evil James 1:13.
48b)Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. Mat 4:1

BECAUSE JESUS DID NOT HAVE THE GLORY HE PRAYED TO RECEIVE FROM GOD
49) And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thyself with the glory which I had with thee before the world was John 17:5

BECAUSE GOD'S WILL ALWAYS TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER JESUS' WILL
50) Nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt Matt 26:39.

BECAUSE GOD FORSOOK JESUS, SHOWING THEY ARE NOT EQUAL
51) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matt. 27:46

BECAUSE HE NEVER COMMANDS WORSHIP, NOR ACCEPTS WORSHIP EXCEPT AS THE “SON OF” GOD.
52a) The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him, John 4:23.

52b)Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God. Mat 14:33

BECAUSE JESUS WAS THE ONE THROUGH WHOM GOD IS APPROACHED
53a) I thank God through Jesus Christ, Rom. 7:25.
53b) To God… be glory through Christ, Rom 16:27.
53c) I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Eph. 3:14.

BECAUSE JESUS WAS A MAN APPROVED OF GOD
49. Because St. Peter, immediately after being filled with the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, thus addressed the Jews: “Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles, and wonders, and signs which God did by him, in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain; whom God hath raised up,” Acts 2:22-24.

BECAUSE RECONCILIATION IS BY JESUS CHRIST, NOT TO JESUS CHRIST
50. Because St. Paul expressly states, that “all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ,” 2 Cor. 5:18.

BECAUSE GOD GIVES US VICTORY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST
51. Because the same Apostle gives “thanks to God, who giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ,” 1 Cor.15:57.

BECAUSE THE “LORDSHIP” OF JESUS CHRIST IS TO GOD'S GLORY
52. Because it is said that it is “to the glory of God the Father,” that “every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord,” Phil. 2:11.

BECAUSE GOD GLORIFIED JESUS
53. Because the Scriptures affirm that “Christ glorified not himself to be made a high priest, but He (glorified him) who said unto him, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee,” Heb. 5:5.

BECAUSE GOD GAVE JESUS A REVELATION
54. Because it is expressly asserted that God gave to Christ the Revelation which was made to the author of the Apocalypse, Rev. 1:1. “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.”

BECAUSE APOSTLE SPEAKS OF JESUS ONLY AS “IMAGE OF” RATHER THAN AS GOD.
55. Because an Apostle speaks of Christ, only as the image of God. “Who is the image of the invisible God,” Col. 1:15. 2 Cor. 4: 4. It would be absurd to call anyone his own image.

BECAUSE CHRIST IS A CREATURE, FIRST OF A NEW SPECIES, RESURRECTED ONES.
56. Because Christ is stated to be “the first-born of every creature,” Col. 1:15.

BECAUSE CHRIST IS THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW CREATURES, RESURRECTED ONES.
57. Because he is said to be “the beginning of the creation of God,” Rev. 3: 14.

BECAUSE CHRIST WAS MADE LOWER THAN ELOHIM.
58. Because the Scriptures affirm, in so many words, that “Jesus was made a little lower than the angels,” Heb. 2:9. God CANNOT become lower than his creatures.

BECAUSE
59. Because Peter declares that “Christ received from God the Father honor and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, this is my beloved son,” 2 Peter 1:17.

BECAUSE CHRIST HAS BRETHREN, GOD HAS SONS.
60. Because it is represented as necessary that the Saviour of mankind should “be made like unto his brethren,” Heb. 2:17.

BECAUSE CHRIST IS COMPARED TO MOSES IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE IMPIOUS IF HE IS THE SUPREME GOD.
61. Hebrews 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; 2 Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house. 3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house. 4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God. 5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after; 6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

BECAUSE GOD CHOSE HIM.
62. He is represented as being the servant, the chosen, the beloved of God, and the recipient of God’s spirit. “Behold, my servant, whom I have chosen, in whom my soul is well pleased; I will put my spirit upon him,” Matt. 12:18.

BECAUSE HE ALWAYS PLEASES ANOTHER THAN HIMSELF. GOD DOES NOT DO THAT.
63. Because he himself expressly declares that it was in consequence of his doing what pleased the Father, that the Father was with him and did not leave him alone. “He that sent me is with me; the Father hath not left me alone, for I do always those things that please him,” John 8:29.

BECAUSE HE GREW. GOD CAN'T GROW.
64. Because he is said to have “increased in wisdom, and in favor with God and man,” Luke 2:52.

BECAUSE GOD DOES NOT OBEY, MAN DOES.
66. Because he is represented as obeying the Father, and as having been “obedient unto death,” Phil. 2:8. “Even as the Father said unto me, so I speak,” John 12:50. “I have kept my Father’s commandments,” John 15:10.

BECAUSE CHRIST WAS MADE PERFECT. GOD IS PERFECT.
67. Because Christ “Learned obedience by the things he suffered,” and through sufferings was made perfect by God, Heb. 5:8.

BECAUSE GOD DOES NOT HAVE BRETHREN. CHRIST DOES.
68. Because he is spoken of in the Scriptures as the first born among many brethren. Rom. 8:29. “For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.” Has God brethren?

BECAUSE CHRIST AKNOWLEDGES HIS BRETHREN. GOD AKNOWLEDGES HIS CHILDREN
69A. Because Christ calls everyone who obeys God his brother. “Whosoever shall do the will of my Father in heaven, the same is my brother,” Matt. 12:50.

69B. 1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and t
he children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

BECAUSE CHRIST OVERCAME. GOD DOES NOT OVERCOME, HE OVERTHROWS.
70. Because he offers to the faithful the like distinction and honor that himself has with the Father. “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am sit down with my Father in his throne,” Rev. 3: 21.

BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST INHERITED. GOD DOES NOT INHERIT.
71. Because God, in the later ages, hath spoken by his Son, and appointed him heir of all things, Heb. 1:1-2. “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the ages;

BECAUSE GOD CANNOT DIE.
72. Christ is styled the first-begotten of the dead, Rev. 1:5. “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,”

BECAUSE CHRIST WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD, THEREFORE HE WAS A MAN.
73. Because it is declared that God raised him from the dead. “This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we are all witnesses,” Acts 2: 32, Rom. 10:9, 10

BECAUSE CHRIST IS THE CHANNEL THROUGH WHICH GOD REGENERATES US.
74. Because God poured out upon the Apostles the Holy Spirit, through Jesus Christ, Titus. 3:5-6 ” 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;”

BECAUSE THERE WAS A TIME JESUS HAD NO GLORY.
75. Because the reason assigned for the Holy Spirit not having been received earlier, is that Jesus was not then
glorified. “The Holy Ghost was not yet given because that Jesus was not yet glorified,” John 7:39.

BECAUSE JESUS WAS RAISED TO BE A SAVIOUR, NOT LOWERED FROM HEAVEN TO BE A SAVIOUR.
76. Because it is affirmed that Christ was exalted by God to be a Prince and a Saviour, Acts 5:30-32. “The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.”

BECAUSE JESUS WAS MADE BOTH LORD AND CHRIST. THIS MEANS HE WAS NOT BECAUSE HE HAD DIED.
77. Because God made that same Jesus, who was crucified, both Lord and Christ, Acts 2: 36.
“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

BECAUSE HE HAS A GOD WHO GAVE HIM A NAME.
78. Because God gave him a name which is above every name,
78A. Phil. 2:9.”Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:”
78B. Psalm 138:2 “I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving-kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.”
78C. Rev 3:12 “Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.”
78D. Rev 19:12-13 “His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.”

BECAUSE HE WAS ORDAINED BY GOD, THEREFORE NOT GOD.
79. Because Christ was ordained of God to be the judge of the quick and the dead, Acts 10:42. “And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.”

BECAUSE GOD MADE HIM A JUDGE. IF HE WAS GOD HE WOULD ALREADY BE A JUDGE.
80. Because God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, Rom. 2:16. “In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.”

BECAUSE GOD COMMITTED ALL JUDGMENT TO A MAN.
81a. Because all judgment is committed to Christ by the Father, John 5:22. “For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:”
81b.Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that MAN whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

BECAUSE THE GOD APPOINTED JUDGE DEPENDS UPON THE GOD WHO APPOINTED HIM.
82. Because our Saviour grounds the importance of his judgment solely upon the circumstances, that it is not exclusively his own judgment which he pronounces, but that of the Father who sent him. “If I judge, my judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me,” John 8:16.

BECAUSE GOD CANNOT SIT ON HIS OWN RIGHT HAND.
83. Because it is said, that, when he was received up into heaven, he “sat on the right hand of God,” Mark 16:19.

BECAUSE GOD PROVIDES THE POWER BY WHICH A MAN LIVES.
84. Because St. Paul affirms, that Christ, even since his ascension, “liveth unto God,” and “liveth by the power of God,” Rom. 6:10. 2 Cor. 12:4.

BECAUSE JESUS WILL BE SUBJECT TO GOD. GOD IS NOT SUBJECT TO GOD.
85. Because it is affirmed of Christ, that “when all things shall be subdued under him then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all,” 1 Cor. 15:28.

BECAUSE GOD IS SUPERIOR TO THE MAN WHO IS RAISED.
87. Because, in the prophecies of the Old Testament that relate to Christ, he is spoken of as a being distinct from and inferior to God,
87a. Deut. 18:15-18, “The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; 18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.”
87b. John 1:45. “Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.”
87c. Acts 3:20-22 “And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.”

BECAUSE JEWS EXPECTED A MAN MESSIAH.
88. Because the Jews never expected that any other than a being distinct from and inferior to God was to be their Messiah, and yet there is no evidence that our Saviour ever so much as hinted to them that this expectation was erroneous.

BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT SUFFICIENT CONTROVERSY OVER JESUS' CLAIOMS, TO JUSTIFY THE TWO THAT OCCURRED.
89. Because it does not appear from the Scriptures, that the Jews except in two instances, ever opposed our Saviour on the ground that he pretended to be God or equal with God; whereas, had it been his custom to assume such identity or equality, in his conversation with a people so strongly attached to the doctrine of the divine unity, he would have found himself involved in a perpetual controversy with them on this point, some traces of which must have appeared in the New Testament.

BECAUSE JESUS DENIED CLAIMING TO BE GOD.
90. Because in these two instances, when charged, in the one case, with making himself God, and in the other, with making himself equal with God, he positively denies the charges. In reply to the ch
arge of assuming to be equal with God, he says immediately, “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do”; and directly after, “I can of mine own self do nothing,” John 5:19, 30. In answer to the charge of making himself God, he appeals to the Jews in substance thus: Your own Scriptures call Moses a god, and your magistrates gods; I am surely not inferior to them, yet I did not call myself God, but only the Son of God, John 10:34-36.

BECAUSE MAN DOES NOT TREAT GOD THE WAY THE DISCIPLES TREATED JESUS.
91. Because, had his immediate disciples believe him to be the Almighty, would they have been so familiar with him, have argued with him, betrayed him, denied him, fled from him, and left him to be dragged to the cross?

BECAUSE THE APOSTLES NEVER CLAIMED HE WAS GOD.
92. Because the Apostles, after they had been filled with the Holy Ghost on the day of Pentecost, did not preach that Christ was God; but preached what was altogether inconsistent with such a doctrine, Acts 2:22; 13:23; 17:3, 31; 22:8.

BECAUSE THE JEWS NEVER ACCUSED THE CHRISTIANS OF IDOLATRY.
93. Because there is no evidence to prove that the first converts to Christianity ever incurred the imputation of idolatry from the Jews, as they must have done had they believed and taught that the Son, as well as the Father, is Jehovah; while it is notorious that this imputation has been among the most common of the Jewish reproaches against Christians, since the Trinity became a doctrine of the Church.

BECAUSE ONLY THE FATHER IS DESIGNATED “ONE, OR ONLY TRUE GOD.”
94. Because there are in the New Testament seventeen passages, wherein the Father is styled one or only God, while there is not a single passage in which the Son is so styled.

BECAUSE ONLY THE FATHER IS CALLED GOD.
95. Because there are 320 passages in which the Father is absolutely, and by way of eminence, called God; while there is not one in which the Son is thus called.

BECAUSE PRAYER IS ADDRESSED TO GOD.
96. Because there are 90 passages wherein it is declared that all prayers and praises ought to be offered to Him, and that everything ought to be ultimately directed to his honor and glory; while of the Son no such declaration is ever made.

BECAUSE NO “NECESSARY INFERENCE” EXISTS TO DEMAND MORE THAN ONE GOD.
97. Because of 1,300 passages in the New Testament wherein the word God is mentioned, not one necessarily implies the existence of more than one person in the Godhead, or that this one is any other than the Father.

BECAUSE 300 WITNESSES OR TESTIMONIALS DECLARE GOD SUPERIOR TO JESUS.
98. Because the passages wherein the Son is declared, positively, or by clearest implication, to be subordinate to the Father, deriving his being from Him, receiving from Him his divine power, and acting in all things wholly according to His will, are in number above 300.

BECAUSE OF MYSTERY, AND HIDDEN MEANING IN VERSES THAT CLAIM TO SUPPORT JESUS AS GOD.
99. Because, in a word, the supremacy of the Father, and the inferiority of the Son, is the simple, unembarrassed, and current doctrine of the Bible; whereas, that of their equality or identity is clothed in mystery, encumbered with difficulties, and dependent, at the best, upon few passages for support.

BECAUSE DISTINCTION BETWEEN GOD AND JESUS IS CONSISTANT.
100. Because Jesus Christ is represented by the sacred writers to be as distinct a being from God the Father as one man is distinct from another. “It is written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. I am one who bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me,” John 8:17, 18.

June 22, 2009 at 10:32 pm#134234

NickHassan

Participant

Hi P,
And Jesus told the Jews the Father was the one they called God[jn8.54]
Nothing has changed since Jesus taught us about his Father God.

June 22, 2009 at 11:21 pm#134237

Worshipping Jesus

Participant

Hi PD

So is this your writings or is it the writings of another? It seems to like a quote from <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=i4YVAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA178&lpg=PA178&dq=Because+there+is+no+evidence+to+prove+that+the+first+converts+to+Christianity+ever+incurre
d+the+imputation+of+idolatry+from+the+Jews,+as+they+must+have+done+had+they+believed+and+t
aught+that+the+Son,+as+well+as+the+Father,+is+Jehovah%3B+while+it+is+notorious+that+this+imputation+has+been+among+the+most+common+of+the+Jewish
+reproaches+against+Christians,+since+the+Trinity+became+a+doctrine+of+the+Church.&source=bl&ots=Kfmm8gYqWb&sig=eXtNTC87v-UUeCRU0e9t4JU8RQk&hl=en&ei=oAxAStSGF4eNtgfA4vm0Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1″ target=”_blank”>here…

If your material is borrowed and edited, then isn't it fair to show the source and give credit where credit is due?

Hopefully this is not the case.

BTW thanks for your concern for my wife. But I did thank everyone for the prayers and gave a report of her progress after the surgery in the prayer thread. She is doing fine, but just sore.

Blessings WJ

June 22, 2009 at 11:26 pm#134238

bodhitharta

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Hi PD

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aught+that+the+Son,+as+well+as+the+Father,+is+Jehovah%3B+while+it+is+notorious+that+this+imputation+has+been+among+the+most+common+of+the+Jewish

+reproaches+against+Christians,+since+the+Trinity+became+a+doctrine+of+the+Church.&source=bl&ots=Kfmm8gYqWb&sig=eXtNTC87v-UUeCRU0e9t4JU8RQk&hl=en&ei=oAxAStSGF4eNtgfA4vm0Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1″ target=”_blank”>here…

If your material is borrowed and edited, then isn't it fair to show the source and give credit where credit is due?

Hopefully this is not the case.

BTW thanks for your concern for my wife. But I did thank everyone for the prayers and gave a report of her progress after the surgery in the prayer thread. She is doing fine, but just sore.

Blessings WJ

wouldn't it have been easier to simply dispute his post then to be concerned where he got it from since all the material is biblical?

What I am saying is it is simply a collection of bible scriptures to prove the point.

June 22, 2009 at 11:45 pm#134239

GeneBalthrop

Participant

Paladin……….Hard to imagine anyone seeing it any different. What more can be said?. IMO

Peace and love to you and yours brother…………………………..gene

June 23, 2009 at 12:23 am#134244

KangarooJack

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Egw is first-person-singular personal pronoun “I”
eimi is first-person-singular verb “am”

And Abraham is addressed as a singular-person entity.
sou is second person-singular pronoun “you”

Paladin accepts what he likes and throws out the rest of scripture. Jehovah also referred to Himself in the first person plural.

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And Jehovah said…Come, let US go down and there confuse their language (Gen. 11:5-7)

Paladin should have checked the Greek Septuagint here.

Paladin said:

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BECAUSE GOD ASSERTS HE IS A SINGLE PERSON BEING
2) Exo 3:14
A “being” who used “first-person-singular” pronouns to describe himself in Exo 3:14 –

This has been answered several tmes already. In Genesis 1 we see that God speaks of Himself both in the singular and in the plural. He speaks about “Adam” in this way too. Here is another example from Scripture,

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Let Israel rejoice in His maker. Let the children of Zion be joyful in their king (Psalm 149:2)

Israel is referred to both in the singular and in the plural. To deny the presence of plural unity in the Scriptures is deliberate.

thinker

June 23, 2009 at 12:42 am#134249

Worshipping Jesus

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Quote (bodhitharta @ June 22 2009,19:26)

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Hi PD

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aught+that+the+Son,+as+well+as+the+Father,+is+Jehovah%3B+while+it+is+notorious+that+this+imputation+has+been+among+the+most+common+of+the+Jewish

If your material is borrowed and edited, then isn't it fair to show the source and give credit where credit is due?

Hopefully this is not the case.

BTW thanks for your concern for my wife. But I did thank everyone for the prayers and gave a report of her progress after the surgery in the prayer thread. She is doing fine, but just sore.

Blessings WJ

wouldn't it have been easier to simply dispute his post then to be concerned where he got it from since all the material is biblical?

What I am saying is it is simply a collection of bible scriptures to prove the point.

Hi BD

I do not have time to dispute it.

But why should I care if it is not his material!

Besides, none of the scripture mentioned in his post disproves the Trinitarian faith.

Phil 2:6:8 in light of all the scriptures he mentions explains them all.

And besides what his post doesn’t do is disprove the Unambiguous scriptures that call Jesus God, but simply says…

Quote (Paladin @ June 22 2009,18:24)

First of all Jesus plainly said that there were many other things that he wanted to tell his disciples but they were not able to bear it at that time.

Secondly, because a thing may be mysterious to some doesn’t mean it isn't true. Paul speaks of the Mystery of Godliness as well as many mysteries. Do you think that Pd, you, or me or anyone else knows all the mysteries of an infinite God?

Besides all this, how many passages does it take for us to believe Jesus is God.

Titus 2:13 by itself shows unambiguously that Paul calls Jesus his Great God and Saviour. Not to mention the others that calls Jesus God.

PD is a Unitarian, and in fact it looks like the info he has posted here is almost word for word like the info that is found on my link which is a defense and almost a creed or confession of some sort for Unitarianism.

Therefore PD does not believe in the preexistence of Jesus Christ and that Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh, which according to John is the spirit of the antichrist.

Also just a couple of examples of the fallacy of the 100 reasons are…

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BECAUSE GOD CANNOT SIT ON HIS OWN RIGHT HAND.
83. Because it is said, that, when he was received up into heaven, he “sat on the right hand of God,” Mark 16:19.

Most Translations use the term “Sat at the right hand of God”.

This means “Equality with God”, for he is not above him nor beneath him but at his right hand, all power and authority given to him. In fact at this time it seems that Jesus is not even subject to the Father and will not be until all things are subject to him (Jesus) and then Jesus will subject himself to the Father that God may be all in all. Yet at this time Jesus is all in all. 1 Cor 15:24-28

Jesus has equality in nature with the Father for he is Omnipotent, and Omnipresent. These attributes of Gods nature are unique to God alone.

But as usual, Unitarians and Arians deny these facts and find pleasure in reducing Jesus to just being another mere man or anointed prophet. By this they fail to give the Son the same honour as they give the Father.

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BECAUSE IF JESUS IS GOD SCRIPTURE IS FALSE
21) no man hath seen God at any time John 1:18

Then If Jesus is not God then scripture is false…

No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; “only he has seen the Father“.

Just when did Jesus see the Father? It was before he came in the flesh and was born as a man.

Now watch for a huge attempt at apologetics to explain Jesus plain words away. Non-trinitarians are experts at explaining away scriptures like John 1:1, 18, 20:28, Acts 20:28, 2 Peter 1:1, Titus 2:13, Heb 1:9, Isa 9:6, rather than accepting them as they are. This is only a few without even mentioning the implied scriptures of his deity. Trinitarians do not have to explain away scriptures that say the Father is God and Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit is God. We take all the scriptural data as it is written.

Again, none of the scriptures PD or a Unitarian brings up is in conflict with the Trinitarian faith. We just accept them all without all the special pleading and inferences and explaining away what they say.

Either all the scriptures are true or you will find yourself on a slippery slope and begin accusing the translations and translators of corruption. If that is true then why do we even bother? For I can always claim bias or corruption when they do not agree with me. It would just be a waste of time.

Blessings WJ

June 23, 2009 at 12:43 am#134250

NickHassan

Participant

Hi,
God is one.
We worship the God of the Jews.

June 23, 2009 at 12:58 am#134253

KangarooJack

Participant

Paladin said:

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BECAUSE GOD CANNOT SIT ON HIS OWN RIGHT HAND.
83. Because it is said, that, when he was received up into heaven, he “sat on the right hand of God,” Mark 16:19.

Paladin's reasoning is circular. He assumes that God cannot be a plural unity and then proceeds from that assumption and concludes that God cannot sit on the right hand of God. But Psalm 110:5 unambiguously says otherwise,

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The LORD said to my Sovereign, “Sit at My right hand until I make Your ememies Your footstool”….The Lord (adonai) is at Your right hand (Psalm 110:1,5)

Now there it is! David recoginized his Sovereign to be “Adonai” which the proper name for God. It means, “God is at your right hand. I can have a “man to man” discussion with Paladin. So God can have a God to God discourse, “Let US make man in OUR image.”

A man may have a man sit at his right hand. So God may have God sit at His right hand. And Psalm 110:5 says that this is the case,

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God (adonai) is at your right hand

It is clear!

thinker

June 23, 2009 at 1:03 am#134254

KangarooJack

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WorshippingJesus said:

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This means “Equality with God”, for he is not above him nor beneath him but at his right hand, all power and authority given to him. In fact at this time it seems that Jesus is not even subject to the Father and will not be until all things are subject to him (Jesus) and then Jesus will subject himself to the Father that God may be all in all. Yet at this time Jesus is all in all.

WJ,
Exactly! The position at the right hand is equality and the unitarians won't accept this. Jesus said that He has ALL authority now.

thinker

June 23, 2009 at 1:25 am#134260

942767

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WJ,
Exactly! The position at the right hand is equality and the unitarians won't accept this. Jesus said that He has ALL authority now.

thinker

Hi thethiker and WJ:

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1Cr 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.

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1Ti 2:3 For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

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1Cr 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under [him, it is] manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Cr 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

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Jhn 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Jhn 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every [branch] that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

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Psa 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Love in Christ,
Marty

June 23, 2009 at 1:28 am#134261

KangarooJack

Participant

Marty,
Is the woman less than the man? And it is Adonai at God's right hand (Psalm 110:5). Adonai is the proper name for God.

thinker

June 23, 2009 at 1:51 am#134263

bodhitharta

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WJ,
Exactly! The position at the right hand is equality and the unitarians won't accept this. Jesus said that He has ALL authority now.

thinker

Thinker,

You believe in 2 Gods. If one thing equals another than there are two things.

Man and woman are a pair, right?

There unity is not in number.

June 23, 2009 at 2:04 am#134265

942767

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Marty,
Is the woman less than the man? And it is Adonai at God's right hand (Psalm 110:5). Adonai is the proper name for God.

thinker

No, thethinker, the woman is not less than the man, but the Word of God is what we are obeying. Jesus is the head of the church, and was given that authority by God. He is not seeking to do his own will but the will of the Father.

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Eph 4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all(including Jesus), and through all, and in you all.

Love in Christ,
Marty

June 23, 2009 at 2:52 am#134278

KangarooJack

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Quote (942767 @ June 23 2009,14:04)

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Marty,
Is the woman less than the man? And it is Adonai at God's right hand (Psalm 110:5). Adonai is the proper name for God.

thinker

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Eph 4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all(including Jesus), and through all, and in you all.

Love in Christ,
Marty

Marty,
Unfortunately for you the parenthetical “(including Jesus)” is not in the text. In Colossians 3:11 Paul said that “Christ is ALL IN ALL.” Your reference to “one Lord” establishes the trinitarian faith for Paul said that every tongue must confess that Jesus is Lord.”

If God is Lord and Jesus is Lord and there is only ONE Lord, then God is a plural unity. The Father and the Son constitute one Lord.

thinker

June 23, 2009 at 7:23 am#134310

Worshipping Jesus

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WJ,
Exactly! The position at the right hand is equality and the unitarians won't accept this. Jesus said that He has ALL authority now.

thinker