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I think you should go back and read his post. I believe that god is working in our lives. Life itself is a miracle. No one is saying god does not have power. he does… we said MEN DONT… NOT GOD DONT…
Hi umb5,
Men never had their own miracle working powers.
The Spirit of God does that work if allowed.
It was the same for Jesus Christ
acts 2.22
I think you should go back and read his post. I believe that god is working in our lives. Life itself is a miracle. No one is saying god does not have power. he does… we said MEN DONT… NOT GOD DONT…
UMB5, so if a man told you that God cured him of an illness or disability, who would you attribute that miracle to?
And are you a J.W?
Hi UMB5,
God sustains all life whether or not men serve Him.
He sends His rain on the good and wicked alike.
That is why we need the three witnesses of 1 jn 5 6-8 to know we are secure in Christ
Hi miia,
Yes he is a faithful servant of the watchtower.
But there is moreMuch more.
Men presume that God has changed.
NO SHADOW OF TURNING.
AND HIS PROMISES STILL EXIST.
Hi Nick, yes. They still exist.
Hi miia,
Those in the watchtower are just the same as any others of the world.
They can respond to the Shepherd or continue as they are.
Hi,
Heb 11.6
And without faith it is impossible to please Him for he who comes to God must believe He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.
But as BD has happily exploited men have made a trinity god or some other sort.
Faith is futile in other gods
Hi,
Religion is just a great comfort to those who do not expect any response from God.
People love the security of groups.
Hi,
Of course for every true blessing from God there is a spiritual counterfeit.
Folks are listening to all sorts of spirits.
Divination is popular
Hi david,
Seek ye FIRST the kingdom and everything else will be added to you.
You will not find it in the Kingdom Halls.
I don’t remember ever saying anyone will.
Nick, in the past many years, I’ve started and then abandoned numerous threads because of you. It just leads to duplicates of threads. But I find what you do in all these threads pointless, mostly non-sensical, and devoid of reality.
Nick, the point of having different threads with specific topics rather than having one large willy nilly free for all discussion, is because through communication, people can test their own ideas against others. By iron, iron is sharpened.
But it sees no matter what thread I begin or engage in, you seem only content to throw rocks at me, without even really knowing anything about me. You assume too much.
I’m uncertain you ever even know which thread you are in at any given time. Does it really even matter to you?
I’ve decided I don’t like that you are a witch doctor. Or that you are trying to promote it so much. And from this moment on, until I am forcibly removed from this forum, I will continue to fight against your evil witch doctory ways. Flee from her nick. Get out of satans world.
Hi gene and bod
My post about the contrast of the little boy who has no food and prays and begs God while on this side of the planet a man prays for his insignificant relatively unimportant thing to be fixed and it’s a miracle, God grants him his plea–It had nothing to do with if the little boy has a good attitude bod, or if God is using that little child to let you know what sorrow is gene.
It was about a lot of the miracles that we think are happening today. They don’t seem logical to me. Why does God care about your prayer bit not about the child in the garbage dump searching for food for him and his brother? He will go home and be beaten by his father. He prays every night. But every day is the same. And over here, we have our problems. And we have our “miracles.” That is all my post was about.
Hi david,
You do not see the power of God at work?
is there faith on the earth?
Do I see the power of God at work?
Not in you, you witch doctor.Is there faith on the earth?
Yes, far too much.You deny God’s power, are you also denying God? Are you hoping someone here will rescue you, or are you out to cast doubt in people’s mind? Sorry, but that is how it feels.
Hi miia
I don’t remember saying that. This feels like something nick likely said of me. You have to know that half of what nick says about me isn’t true. I could be an athiest for all he knows. He really doesn’t know me.
A famous dude once said: the problem with the world is that the stupid are so cock sure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
My ultimate goal is truth. I cast questions. I do this to find reality. I enjoy discussing the bible.
For the purpose of this thread, who I am or even what I stand for aren’t relevant to whether or not miracles are happening today the way people think they are. What is relevant is any evidence for it, and anecdotes aren’t evidence. Perhaps a very large discussion on personal anecdotes would be good. Also, the bible and what it says about miracles is relevant. But nick throwing rocks at me. That’s just a doctor doing that, which doctors do.
Thank you for your explanation. So you think he denies the power of God because he may or may not be J.W. Interesting. I didn’t see anything about any specific religion in this thread, and what that religion believes, so I’m not sure if that explanation actually answers the question, however what I got from this thread is that today God does not give men the power to perform miracles; I also saw scriptures and reasoning behind those scriptures…not that God himself does not have the power..just that he no longer gives that power to men today to perform miraculous healings. I could be wrong but I think he is actually talking about men today that claim to have the power to heal the sick. I actually do not believe that men today have the power to spiritually heal the sick but that does not mean that I deny God’s power. I deny man’s power to heal the sick. That’s why when I’m sick, I go to a medical doctor and not the a spiritual healer. Where do you go when you get sick? Probably to a medical doctor; but why do you go to a doctor who will just give you medicine and man made treatments. Why not go to a spiritual healer and have him heal you through the power of God. Does this mean that you also deny the power of God? Of course not.
UMB5,
You actually read the first couple of posts at the beginning of this thread! And you actually understood what was being said. When a person is having rocks hurled at him and a person defends him, the rocks have a tendency to find their way to that person who is defending.
Have at it nick. Attack his hair colour. Or whatever it is that you do.
Nicks gives some unrelated and bizarre reply to UMB5 and then UMB5 says that he isn’t sure what nick is talking about. It isn’t just me!!! Hallelujah.
My point was simply that just because one does not believe that men today do not have the power to perform miracles, does not mean they deny the power of God. I agree that you should pray when sick…when well.. when happy…when sad…to say thank you…to say sorry…but I just do not believe (like David) that God today gives man his power to miraculously heal people. The wisdom to heal people…Yes…(as you quoted) the power of miracle to heal people…no… That does not mean that I (or David) deny the power of God. That’s all I was saying. I’m not sure what all that other stuff was that you were talking about. I may have confused you…I apologize.
Hi David,
If you have not seen a miracle from God does that count as evidence that God no longer does them?
If the JWs teach that they no longer occur because they were only for the early days does that carry any weight?
Are the observations and doctrines of men of paramount importance to you or does the Word of God have relevance?
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