MIRACLES

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  • #799756
    Miia
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    David, I was not in a literal prison. I said I was in “my own prison” for 18 years (meaning: living in a hard/ difficult situation)

    #799757
    Miia
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    You asked me to describe what I meant by “I felt the power of God”…..

    It’s hard to describe.

    It’s feeling overcome with, example, compassion…. And feeling the power in my heart from above to change something.

    #799758
    david
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    I would call that empathy.  A feeling of empathy?

    #799759
    Miia
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    David,

    What about small miracles, things that may seem insignificant to anyone but the receiver (until a later time when the fruit of each small miracle leading somewhere are manifest). Might not make sense but, don’t have time to explain right now.

     

    #799760
    Miia
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    David, yes empathy but with power to change something?

    #799761
    david
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    Nick

    sometimes on the news you hear stories of a man being beaten up or a girl attacked or some thing and there is a large crowd of bystanders around who do nothing.

    This is because of the bystander effect.  The plurality of ignorance and the diffusion of responsibility create this effect.  Individuals might step in but in a crowd, not as easy.

    If God doesn’t always step in, in the case of the girl being raped for 24 years for example, if God doesn’t step in, then it seems the moral thing to do is not step in.  But rather to just hear her cries and watch or turn away.   We are to imitate God.

    I’m using extreme examples here but there are so many and I am sure if we want to know what God is or isn’t doing we have to look at the whole and not just pick out what helps us sleep at night or makes us feel good or special

    From my point of view, being that rape is wrong and causes pain and suffering, I would find it immoral not to step in.  And understanding mob mentality and crowd psychology, I think I would quickly understand the situation and be able to recruit 2 others, and suggest a course of action, and the mob would then turn on the attacker.

    The good Samaritan principle strongly suggests we should step in and help

    the golden rule says we should as well

     

     

    #799762
    NickHassan
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    Hi david,

    Do you think it is safe to mock and judge God?

    Why did you become so embittered and angry?

    #799763
    NickHassan
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    Hi david,

    The world was full of illness, blindness and demonic behaviours when Jesus arrived.

    Did Jesus blame God or do something about it?

    Should we not follow the Son?

    #799764
    NickHassan
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    Hi david,

    You really need to decide whether or not you believe in God and His Son.

    If you do not then perhaps keep it to yourself.

    If you do then take care.

     

     

     

    #799765
    NickHassan
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    Hi david

    1Tim 1.19

    “..keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith”

    Following religious doctrines which deny the power of God is likely to blind you to His work.

    #799766
    david
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    “Hi david,

    The world was full of illness, blindness and demonic behaviours when Jesus arrived.

    Did Jesus blame God or do something about it?

    Should we not follow the Son?”

     

    And which illnesses did Jesus choose to act a miracle on?  And which did he do nothing?  Were not “all” healed who were brought to him.  I am not here saying anything of the past but only asking why anyone who is good at thinking, or who uses critical thinking and values real evidence believes God is enacting miracles today.

    For prayer we know the many miracles never come about and prayers go unanswered

    i know that many things people consider miracles would have happened with or without gods help.

    And I am having excessive difficulty finding real genuine miracles like in bible times.

    #799767
    NickHassan
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    Hi David,

    God looks after his family .

    Have you been reborn into the Son yet?

    #799768
    NickHassan
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    Hi David,

    Do you think God did miracles through Jesus and the apostles and prophets

    or can you rationalise away all those too?

     

    If God did then why did they largely cease since that time?

     

    Jesus Christ showed it is according to faith.

    He wondered if there would be faith on earth when he returned.

     

    Perhaps faith has changed to being only in the thoughts of men, human leadership, human religion and other deceits?

     

    #799769
    kerwin
    Participant

    David,
    John the Baptist did no miracles and yet he was the Jesus’ herald.

    #799804
    NickHassan
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    Hi david,

    If you were God would you have stopped Adam from following his wife and stopped Cain murdering Abel?

    But of course you are not and we all know that.

    #799807
    david
    Participant

    Hi nick.

    I’m not god.  I would have prevented Abel from being murdered if I could have.  And if you were Abel,  I presume you would be happy about that.

    #799809
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi David,

    No but since you want to judge God perhaps you think you are even greater than Him?

    #799810
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi david,

    I do not understand how your path could have ended in this foolishness.

    Repent

    #799824
    kerwin
    Participant

    David,

    God is not a controlling God. If God wanted to make Cain a puppet then he could have but instead he chose to let Cain’s heart be tested. He could have chosen for Abel to return to life but instead he chose that Abel’s mortal life was over and his life would only return on Judgement Day.

    Since we are told that Abel is righteous he will inherit eternal life and the physical pain that Cain inflicted on him will become a distant memory. Jesus told us not fear those that live by the flesh as they can only destroy our body but fear God that can destroy both our bodies and souls in the Lake of Fire.

    #799833
    david
    Participant

     

    “No but since you want to judge God perhaps you think you are even greater than Him?”–nick

    I only think that if I knew you were going to be killed by Cain, I would have prevented that if it was in my power.

    God would have let you die Nick.

    I guess it depends how you define morality, and perhaps you should define it for me, but if person 1 just watches a good person being killed while person 2 tries to stop a good person from being killed, I would assume the one that tried to prevent your death was the more moral of the two.

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