MIKE, TERRA, ED

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  • #323122
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 01 2012,18:38)
    Brother Mike,
    I doubt this is what you wanted to hear, but here it is.


    I like to hear scriptural truth, Marlin.

    The link is there to that thread. Go to that thread, and address my first post there.

    Show me the ONE scripture where Jesus said he was God, or even equal to his God. (But please do it on that thread, okay?)

    #323123
    Marlin1
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    I like to hear scriptural truth, Marlin.

    The link is there to that thread.  Go to that thread, and address my first post there.

    Show me the ONE scripture where Jesus said he was God, or even equal to his God.  (But please do it on that thread, okay?)

    Brother Mike,

    I just gave you four scriptures and you can not see it at all.  If I gave you 40, you still wouldn't see it.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #323124
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 01 2012,18:44)
    “The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father” (Ezekiel 18:20)

    Then Why do we have a sinful nature? Why is the Flesh sinful? (if we do not bear our father sin.)


    All men are born into sin. It is not due to our own fathers, but to our first father, Adam.

    Aside from being born with a sinful nature in the first place, there are also more heinous sins some of us commit.

    For example, God knows that by our nature, we will slip. We will cuss. We will envy others. We will sometimes steal a piece of candy, or not tell the whole truth. We will pass by a stranded motorist because we're too tired to help them out. Things like that are a given. They are examples of the sinful nature we're born into.

    Now, ASIDE from that, some of us rape, murder, set our hearts to greedily obtaining ill-gotten gains, and worship “the gods of the nations”. These kinds of sins we CAN control. And it is these kinds of sins God is talking about in Ezekiel. If the father commits a brutal murder, the son will not be held accountable for it.

    Do you see the difference I'm trying to outline for you?

    #323125
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 01 2012,20:55)

    Quote
    I like to hear scriptural truth, Marlin.

    The link is there to that thread.  Go to that thread, and address my first post there.

    Show me the ONE scripture where Jesus said he was God, or even equal to his God.  (But please do it on that thread, okay?)

    Brother Mike,

    I just gave you four scriptures and you can not see it at all.  If I gave you 40, you still wouldn't see it.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Apparently, you are not getting the point, Marlin.  There are certain threads designed to discuss certain matters.  We keep discussing how many gods there are, but you won't come to the thread I started and linked for you to discuss that particular matter – despite the fact I've invited and encouraged you to join me in THAT THREAD a bunch of times so we can discuss the matter.

    Now I've given you a link to discuss the words of Jesus in John 8:24-25.  GO TO THAT THREAD, and post ONE scripture in which YOU THINK Jesus claimed to either be God, or equal to his God.

    I will gladly and scripturally address any claims you make IN THAT THREAD.

    peace,
    mike

    #323136
    Marlin1
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    All men are born into sin.  It is not due to our own fathers, but to our first father, Adam.

    Brother Mike,

    That is the answer that is taught in most churches, but it still doesn't make sense.
    You say, we are not sinners because of our fathers, but because of our father Adam.
    Adam was made perfect, he did sin, but he did not have sinful flesh or nature.  He had a choice and made a choice to not obey God.

    So how did we get sinful flesh or nature?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #323160
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2012,08:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,03:02)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2012,14:26)
    eddy

    again read the scriptures Rom 1;3

    open your eyes please

    RO 1:3 concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh,

    IT SAYS “WHO(Christ) WAS BORN OF (MARY) A DESCENDANT OF DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH '


    Hi Pierre,

    Jesus would not be of the seed of David,
    if Mary was only a surrogate Mother.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj

    look at the story of Boaz and Ruth


    Hi Pierre,

    Yea, go look at it carefully.
    Jesus is our kinsman redeemer.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #323161
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 02 2012,09:55)
    Brother Gene,

    I never said that Jesus wasn't 100% human.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Is 100% human 100% not God?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #323162
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,12:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2012,08:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,03:02)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2012,14:26)
    eddy

    again read the scriptures Rom 1;3

    open your eyes please

    RO 1:3 concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh,

    IT SAYS “WHO(Christ) WAS BORN OF (MARY) A DESCENDANT OF DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH '


    Hi Pierre,

    Jesus would not be of the seed of David,
    if Mary was only a surrogate Mother.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj

    look at the story of Boaz and Ruth


    Hi Pierre,

    Yea, go look at it carefully.
    Jesus is our kinsman redeemer.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj

    Yes according to the spirit ,not according to the flesh,right ???

    #323163
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2012,17:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,12:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2012,08:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,03:02)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2012,14:26)
    eddy

    again read the scriptures Rom 1;3

    open your eyes please

    RO 1:3 concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh,

    IT SAYS “WHO(Christ) WAS BORN OF (MARY) A DESCENDANT OF DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH '


    Hi Pierre,

    Jesus would not be of the seed of David,
    if Mary was only a surrogate Mother.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDj

    look at the story of Boaz and Ruth


    Hi Pierre,

    Yea, go look at it carefully.
    Jesus is our kinsman redeemer.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj

    Yes according to the spirit ,not according to the flesh,right ???


    Pierre,

    Why not according to the flesh also?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #323226
    terraricca
    Participant

    m1

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    Adam was made perfect, he did sin, but he did not have sinful flesh or nature. He had a choice and made a choice to not obey God.

    So how did we get sinful flesh or nature?

    Ge 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”

    THIS HIS THE SAY WEN ADAM LOST HIS SINLESS FLESH

    #323227
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,12:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2012,17:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,12:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2012,08:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,03:02)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2012,14:26)
    eddy

    again read the scriptures Rom 1;3

    open your eyes please

    RO 1:3 concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David according to the flesh,

    IT SAYS “WHO(Christ) WAS BORN OF (MARY) A DESCENDANT OF DAVID ACCORDING TO THE FLESH '


    Hi Pierre,

    Jesus would not be of the seed of David,
    if Mary was only a surrogate Mother.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDj

    look at the story of Boaz and Ruth


    Hi Pierre,

    Yea, go look at it carefully.
    Jesus is our kinsman redeemer.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Edj

    Yes according to the spirit ,not according to the flesh,right ???


    Pierre,

    Why not according to the flesh also?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ

    did not Christ came and crusified the flesh ???so that we now can recieve life trough the spirit ,HIS SPIRIT ???

    #323242
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Ge 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”

    THIS HIS THE SAY WEN ADAM LOST HIS SINLESS FLESH

    Brother Pierre,

    OK, I see your point I think.

    Can you explain, how did Adam get sinful flesh?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #323248
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,07:23)
    EDJ

    did not Christ came and crusified the flesh ???so that we now can recieve life trough the spirit ,HIS SPIRIT ???


    Hi Pierre,

    Yep, and your point is… ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #323249
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,04:22)

    Quote
    Ge 2:17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”

    THIS HIS THE SAY WEN ADAM LOST HIS SINLESS FLESH

    Brother Pierre,

    OK, I see your point I think.

    Can you explain, how did Adam get sinful flesh?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    God told him (Adam) that that day he will die ,we know that he did not meant 24 hours but a day of God 1000 years and so he died at 830 if my memory is still good , but his flesh ad already started to degraded because dead ad entered it ,do you understand ???

    and so dead was transmitted to all of us.

    #323250
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 02 2012,17:30)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 02 2012,09:55)
    Brother Gene,

    I never said that Jesus wasn't 100% human.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Is 100% human 100% not God?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Marlin?

    #323267
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,04:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,07:23)
    EDJ

    did not Christ came and crusified the flesh ???so that we now can recieve life trough the spirit ,HIS SPIRIT ???


    Hi Pierre,

    Yep, and your point is…   ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    eddy

    are you still can't figured it out ???

    #323274
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,04:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,07:23)
    EDJ

    did not Christ came and crusified the flesh ???so that we now can recieve life trough the spirit ,HIS SPIRIT ???


    Hi Pierre,

    Yep, and your point is…   ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    eddy

    are you still can't figured it out ???


    Now you starting to sound like Marlin. :D

    #323281
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,06:26)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,04:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,07:23)
    EDJ

    did not Christ came and crusified the flesh ???so that we now can recieve life trough the spirit ,HIS SPIRIT ???


    Hi Pierre,

    Yep, and your point is…   ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    eddy

    are you still can't figured it out ???


    Now you starting to sound like Marlin. :D


    eddy

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    Hi Pierre,

    Jesus would not be of the seed of David,
    if Mary was only a surrogate Mother.

    God bless
    Ed J

    but if Joseph was not the father and he was considered the offspring of David why Mary would be the hard part ???

    Lk 3:23 Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,

    Mt 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
    NOW WOULD YOU ARGUE WITH GOD AS HE SAYS THAT JESUS CHRIST HIS IS SON ,DOES GOD NEEDS A WOMEN TO HAVE A SON OR WAS THAT WOMEN JUST USED BY HIM TO PUT A CLOTH OF FLESH AROUND HIS SON SOUL ???

    #323294
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Quote
    m1

    God told him (Adam) that that day he will die ,we know that he did not meant 24 hours but a day of God 1000 years and so he died at 830 if my memory is still good , but his flesh ad already started to degraded because dead ad entered it ,do you understand ???

    and so dead was transmitted to all of us.

    Brother Pierre,

    No Sir, I can not.  The sins of our fathers are not our sins.  

    So how did Adams sins transfer to US?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #323295
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,12:19)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,06:26)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,10:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,04:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,07:23)
    EDJ

    did not Christ came and crusified the flesh ???so that we now can recieve life trough the spirit ,HIS SPIRIT ???


    Hi Pierre,

    Yep, and your point is…   ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    eddy

    are you still can't figured it out ???


    Now you starting to sound like Marlin. :D


    eddy

    Quote
    Hi Pierre,

    Jesus would not be of the seed of David,
    if Mary was only a surrogate Mother.

    God bless
    Ed J

    but if Joseph was not the father and he was considered the offspring of David why Mary would be the hard part ???

    Lk 3:23 Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,

    Mt 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
    NOW WOULD YOU ARGUE WITH GOD AS HE SAYS THAT JESUS CHRIST HIS IS SON ,DOES GOD NEEDS A WOMEN TO HAVE A SON OR WAS THAT WOMEN JUST USED BY HIM TO PUT A CLOTH OF FLESH AROUND HIS SON SOUL ???


    Hi Roirre,

    The lineage in Matthew is Joesph's, which is NOT APPLICABLE to Christ.
    The lineage in Luke is Mary's, which is “IS” APPLICABLE to Christ.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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