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Quote I will show you one example of 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three (titles) are one. You can't have the Father without having the Son; you can't have the Son without having the Holy Ghost, for they are inseparable, one. This trinity of titles is one.
so you also believe like Kathi that the son his not a creation
right ??
Brother Pierre,Jesus the man that walked on the earth was created, the Spirit in Him was God.
THREE DISPENSATION OF THE ONE TRUE GOD
1. “God ABOVE Us” – that’s how God was known in the Old Testament, in the Fatherhood dispensation. God dwelling in the heavenlies, where no man could ever touch Him.
2. When the time for the Sonship dispensation came, fulfilling the prophesy of Isaiah 9:6 which says, “For to us a child is born, for to us a SON is given: the government shall be upon His shoulder; and His Name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty GOD, and everlasting FATHER, Prince of Peace”. JESUS, being God Himself becoming Emmanuel, which being interpreted “God WITH us” – God Who can now be touched by the feeling of our infirmities.
It was God also fulfilling Isaiah 53:5, “But He (God) was WOUNDED for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him: and by His stripes we are healed” – all fulfilled and completed at the Cross of Calvary.
3. For the last 2000+ years, after Jesus had been resurrected and glorified, God has sent us back His Holy Spirit, the Comforter, to indwell every believer. Thus, we are now living in the HOLY GHOST Dispensation.
As 1 Cor. 6:19-20 states, “What? Know ye not that your body is the TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost which is IN YOU, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify GOD IN YOUR BODY, and in your spirit which are God’s.”JESUS is that self-same Holy Spirit; as He has attested in John 14:18, saying, “I will not leave you comfortless, “I“ (Personal Pronoun) WILL COME TO YOU.” “I will be with you, even IN YOU until the end of the world.” Galatians 4:6 states this, too, “And because ye are sons, God has sent forth the SPIRIT of His SON into your hearts, crying Abba, Father.”
God Bless
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 03 2012,18:31) Jesus SAID it was REVEALED by His Father to Peter.
Jesus also confirmed exactly what it was that was revealed by the Father to Peter, right? What WAS that revelation, upon which Jesus has built his church, Marlin?A. Jesus is God Almighty?
B. Jesus is the SON OF God Almighty?Which one? (Please DIRECTLY answer the question this time.)
Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 03 2012,18:31) ……….according to Brother Mike, Jesus lied.
What? Jesus confirmed that he was the SON OF God, and I believe that. It is YOU who is telling a different story.Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 03 2012,18:31) …….just like your doctrine of two Gods.
Actually, my beliefs are in line with the scriptures, which speak of MANY Gods, of whom Jesus is one, and of whom Jehovah is the God. He is called “the God of gods” for a reason, Marlin.Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 03 2012,18:31) HE was the DIVINE JEHOVAH GOD living in a BODY of Flesh.
My apologies Marlin. I thought that you were a normal, run of the mill Trinitarian. Now that I have been corrected about what you truly believe, I have a queston: If Jesus was DIVINE JEHOVAH GOD living in a BODY of Flesh, who was the God in heaven Jesus prayed to? Who was the God who did signs and wonders THROUGH His holy servant Jesus Christ?Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 03 2012,18:31) I TIMOTHY 3:16 †
God was manifest in the flesh,
That is another KJV mistake, Marlin. They even brought out a MICROSCOPE on that one, because the Greek word for “which” is only one pen stroke away from the Greek word for “god”. It was discovered that a pen stroke, changing “which” to “god”, had been ADDED by a scribe to an old mss. They were able to tell that this pen stroke was added in a DIFFERENT ink, and that it was added much later.Once again, that is why you won't find those words in any of the more recent Bibles. And don't get the wrong idea, Marlin – these Bibles are STILL being produced by hard-core Trinitarians, who slant the Hebrew and Greek words of the mss each and every chance they get – in an effort to FORCE the scriptures into teaching something that they don't. So it's not like it's a bunch of Jehovah's Witnesses who are producing the Bibles of today, and purposely removing all of your great “proof texts”. Not at all. The Bibles of today are still being produced by Trinitarians. It's just that they now know, with the advent of the internet and easy access to lexicons for every man, they could no longer justify some of these older Trinitarian scribal twists that they used to be able to trick people with.
Look at a Bible site, and see how all the English Bibles of today, EXCEPT the KJV, have “he was manifest in the flesh”. I'm not making this stuff up, my friend.
(Oh, there is also no Greek word that means “Godhead”. That is yet another KJV mistranslation that has been corrected by the Trinitarian scholars of today. It is, however, easy to see why the translators of old jumped at the chance to carry these scribal additions into their own translations. After all, they seem to be your “bread and butter proof texts”, don't they?)
Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 03 2012,18:58) ………Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty GOD, and everlasting FATHER, Prince of Peace………..
Marlin,Unless you think the “Son Dispensation of God” IS the “Father Dispensation of God”, this scripture doesn't really do for you what you would like it to do.
Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58) Quote I will show you one example of 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three (titles) are one. You can't have the Father without having the Son; you can't have the Son without having the Holy Ghost, for they are inseparable, one. This trinity of titles is one.
so you also believe like Kathi that the son his not a creation
right ??
Brother Pierre,Jesus the man that walked on the earth was created, the Spirit in Him was God.
THREE DISPENSATION OF THE ONE TRUE GOD
1. “God ABOVE Us” – that’s how God was known in the Old Testament, in the Fatherhood dispensation. God dwelling in the heavenlies, where no man could ever touch Him.
2. When the time for the Sonship dispensation came, fulfilling the prophesy of Isaiah 9:6 which says, “For to us a child is born, for to us a SON is given: the government shall be upon His shoulder; and His Name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty GOD, and everlasting FATHER, Prince of Peace”. JESUS, being God Himself becoming Emmanuel, which being interpreted “God WITH us” – God Who can now be touched by the feeling of our infirmities.
It was God also fulfilling Isaiah 53:5, “But He (God) was WOUNDED for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him: and by His stripes we are healed” – all fulfilled and completed at the Cross of Calvary.
3. For the last 2000+ years, after Jesus had been resurrected and glorified, God has sent us back His Holy Spirit, the Comforter, to indwell every believer. Thus, we are now living in the HOLY GHOST Dispensation.
As 1 Cor. 6:19-20 states, “What? Know ye not that your body is the TEMPLE of the Holy Ghost which is IN YOU, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify GOD IN YOUR BODY, and in your spirit which are God’s.”JESUS is that self-same Holy Spirit; as He has attested in John 14:18, saying, “I will not leave you comfortless, “I“ (Personal Pronoun) WILL COME TO YOU.” “I will be with you, even IN YOU until the end of the world.” Galatians 4:6 states this, too, “And because ye are sons, God has sent forth the SPIRIT of His SON into your hearts, crying Abba, Father.”
God Bless
bro. Marlin
m1how can you see that in the words of God ,this is insanity ,your believe is not in the God of scriptures NO WAY
Quote Jesus SAID it was REVEALED by His Father to Peter. Jesus also confirmed exactly what it was that was revealed by the Father to Peter, right? What WAS that revelation, upon which Jesus has built his church, Marlin?
A. Jesus is God Almighty?
B. Jesus is the SON OF God Almighty?Brother Mike,
I feel sorry for you, Jesus said it was revealed and you think that you can just read and learn it.
One of you is WRONG and it is not JESUS.The Jews didn't have a revelation of who He was, but they understood who He claimed to be.
JOHN 10:33 † The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.He was both a man and God, He was GOD'S own SON, not of Joseph or Mary, but of GOD alone.
God the Spirit could not die, so He created a temple, (the Son) to dwell in. He poured out Himself to create His OWN SON who could pay the price for sin.
You will never see this as long as you are looking at it with SELF, which is what you are doing.
MAT 11:25 † At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
My brother, it is not about a great education, knowledge, or an intellectual understanding, it is about a surrendered heart to which the Lord Jesus can speak and reveal things to.MAT 16:17 † And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
LUKE 2:26 † And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
GAL 1:12 † For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
It is only by revelation, as it has always been.
The very same God that was the pillar of fire over Israel, was the same pillar of fire that blinded Paul. And who was that pillar of fire, ACTS 9:5 † And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus
God Bless you my friend and brother
bro. Marlinm1
Quote Brother Pierre, Jesus the man that walked on the earth was created, the Spirit in Him was God.
but scriptures says that God stopped creating on earth at the end of the six day ,and so rest on the seventh day ;are you saying that God lied or that the seventh day was over when Christ was born
Quote Brother Pierre, Jesus the man that walked on the earth was created, the Spirit in Him was God.
but scriptures says that God stopped creating on earth at the end of the six day ,and so rest on the seventh day ;are you saying that God lied or that the seventh day was over when Christ was born
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PierreBrother Pierre,
Neither my brother, God did not lie and the seventh day has not come.
The LOGOS (Word) was from the beginning. God thoughts were expressed and the LOGOS (Word, Son) went forth. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word….That thought expressed went forth through man's history. When it came time for Jesus, He became.
The LOGOS was Gods thoughts expressed and from those thoughts came forth everything we know.God Bless
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 04 2012,18:01) Quote Jesus SAID it was REVEALED by His Father to Peter. Jesus also confirmed exactly what it was that was revealed by the Father to Peter, right? What WAS that revelation, upon which Jesus has built his church, Marlin?
A. Jesus is God Almighty?
B. Jesus is the SON OF God Almighty?Brother Mike,
I feel sorry for you, Jesus said it was revealed and you think that you can just read and learn it.
One of you is WRONG and it is not JESUS.
Yes Marlin. I agree. Jesus DID say his identity was revealed TO PETER, right? And exactly what WAS revealed to Peter?A. Jesus is God?
B. Jesus is the SON OF God?Which one, Marlin? (Why do I have to KEEP asking the same question? When will you DIRECTLY answer it?
)Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 04 2012,18:01) LUKE 2:26 † And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
And exactly what was revealed to Simeon?A. Jesus was the Lord Himself.
B. Jesus was the Lord's CHRIST (anointed one)?Which one?
Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 04 2012,18:01) GAL 1:12 † For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Three verses later, Paul goes on to say:GAL 1:15-16
But when God, who set me apart from birth and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not consult any man…….So exactly what was revealed to Paul?
A. Jesus was God?
B. Jesus was the SON OF God?Which one?
Are you beginning to see a pattern in the scriptures that you yourself brought up?
Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 06 2012,09:34) Quote Brother Pierre, Jesus the man that walked on the earth was created, the Spirit in Him was God.
but scriptures says that God stopped creating on earth at the end of the six day ,and so rest on the seventh day ;are you saying that God lied or that the seventh day was over when Christ was born
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PierreBrother Pierre,
Neither my brother, God did not lie and the seventh day has not come.
The LOGOS (Word) was from the beginning. God thoughts were expressed and the LOGOS (Word, Son) went forth. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word….That thought expressed went forth through man's history. When it came time for Jesus, He became.
The LOGOS was Gods thoughts expressed and from those thoughts came forth everything we know.God Bless
bro. Marlin
m1.
Quote The LOGOS (Word) was from the beginning. God thoughts were expressed and the LOGOS (Word, Son) went forth. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word…. That thought expressed went forth through man's history. When it came time for Jesus, He became.
The LOGOS was Gods thoughts expressed and from those thoughts came forth everything we know.Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood itJn 1:7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe.
Jn 1:8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
Jn 1:9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.was John the Baptist not guided by the holy spirit
Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
John the Baptist does not describe a thought ,but a person,he also deny to be that person
Jn 1:15 John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’
do you believe the scriptures or do you also need to place yourself above scriptures and give them your personal interpretation
Quote Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it Brother Pierre,
And the darkness still does not understand it.
John the Baptist was in God in the beginning as a thought. Everyone that is eternal was in God in the beginning. If you weren't then you are not eternal. For to be ETERNAL, you can not have a beginning or ending.
Define: Eternal Being without beginning or end;The scriptures you quoted in John are exactly what I had said, if you had the correct understanding, you would see that.
You can believe whatever you want, no one is forcing you to believe the truth.
You can keep your two Gods, but doesn't it worry you about breaking the first commandment?God Bless you in your search
bro. MarlinBrother Mike,
I answered your question, go back and reread. I told you exactly who He is.
I also showed you scriptures that God the Father was our only Saviour.
Then I showed you scriptures that Jesus was our Saviour.We have one saviour, but you come out with two.
you have rejected the truth of this and by doing so you have rejected TRUTH.Who was the Pillar of Fire?
God Bless
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 07 2012,08:19) Quote Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it Brother Pierre,
And the darkness still does not understand it.
John the Baptist was in God in the beginning as a thought. Everyone that is eternal was in God in the beginning. If you weren't then you are not eternal. For to be ETERNAL, you can not have a beginning or ending.
Define: Eternal Being without beginning or end;The scriptures you quoted in John are exactly what I had said, if you had the correct understanding, you would see that.
You can believe whatever you want, no one is forcing you to believe the truth.
You can keep your two Gods, but doesn't it worry you about breaking the first commandment?God Bless you in your search
bro. Marlin
m1I have no clue of what you say;
and you did not answer my question ,you just formulate your opinion and trow it ,
assuming by that that you are a righteous and true believer
Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 08 2012,06:37) Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it
m1even that scripture you do not understand
Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 06 2012,20:32) Brother Mike, I answered your question, go back and reread. I told you exactly who He is.
I also showed you scriptures that God the Father was our only Saviour.
Then I showed you scriptures that Jesus was our Saviour.We have one saviour, but you come out with two.
you have rejected the truth of this and by doing so you have rejected TRUTH.Who was the Pillar of Fire?
God Bless
bro. Marlin
Hi Marlin,Do you remember that I showed YOU a scripture in Nehemiah where he said that God SENT many saviors to the Israelites?
I asked you why the saviors God sent during the days of the judges were NOT the God who sent them, but the savior God sent in the days of Peter, John and Paul IS the God who sent him.
Do you see how your logic just doesn't add up? Do you see how you SLANT things when Jesus is involved? For example, you would never in a million years read that verse in Nehemiah and think the saviors God sent were the God who sent them. Why then do you think such a nonsensical thing when it comes to Jesus?
You also don't answer my questions, Marlin. Why not? You keep posting scriptures that you say support your understanding, and I keep showing you from those very scriptures that they DON'T support your understanding.
For example, you post a scripture where Simeon sees the Lord's CHRIST, and say, See Mike? This proves Jesus is God!
What? How? And how would any sane person take Peter's revelation that Jesus is the SON OF God, and USE that revelation to say, See Mike? This proves Jesus is God! I am truly baffled by this. You are using, as your support, scriptures that clearly teach the exact opposite of what you're claiming they teach.
Anyway, I wasn't aware that the pillar of fire was a person. Scripture says that YHWH went before the Israelites IN a pillar of cloud and IN a pillar of fire. (We know from many scriptures that both YHWH and those who represented YHWH were referred to as “YHWH”. So when it says YHWH went before them in the pillar of fire, it most likely refers to the angel of YHWH who was sent to go along with the Israelites – Exodus 23:20)
Quote Anyway, I wasn't aware that the pillar of fire was a person. Scripture says that YHWH went before the Israelites IN a pillar of cloud and IN a pillar of fire. (We know from many scriptures that both YHWH and those who represented YHWH were referred to as “YHWH”. So when it says YHWH went before them in the pillar of fire, it most likely refers to the angel of YHWH who was sent to go along with the Israelites – Exodus 23:20) Brother Mike,
That same Pillar of Fire came and blinded Paul and said His Name was Jesus. Acts 9:3-5
Quote I asked you why the saviors God sent during the days of the judges were NOT the God who sent them, but the savior God sent in the days of Peter, John and Paul IS the God who sent him. Your logic will never understand, open your heart, God will reveal.
God the Father is the ONE and only Saviour of mankind.
ISAIAH 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no Saviour.
ISAIAH 45:21……. there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
HOSEA 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.One GOD and only one Saviour, GOD. No other god allowed.
God the Son is the only Saviour of mankind.
LUKE 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
JOHN 4:42 † And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
II PETER 3:18 † But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.Now brother, I want you to reconcile these. The God of the universe said there is NO GOD beside HIM. And that we will have no other god, beside HIM. And that HE is the ONLY SAVIOUR.
Then you worship Jesus, (your little god) and make GOD a LIER.
God the Father and God the Son are the very SAME GOD, just in a different roll.
I did answer your question, you just can not accept it. Jesus was both MAN and GOD, not a god, but GOD. He was the very GOD of the Universe in HIS Sonship roll.
Then and only then do the scriptures fit together from A to Z.
Jesus was the only BEGOTTEN Son.
define Begotten. Only Son, One of a kind.I truly do pray that you will see this my brother,
bro. MarlinREV 10:7 † But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the MYSTERY of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
The one SINGLE MYSTERY of GOD, The most important MYSTERY of the GODHEAD.
Before you totally discard this, think about this. Millions of people believe in a Trinity Godhead, (three persons in one God), others believe in two Gods.There is and always has been only one truth. That is the truth of God and only in that truth can a person receive the Holy Ghost (the Spirit of God in us). Sure He will be with you, but He will never be in an unclean vessel.
So look at what satan has done. He has effectively taken away the Holy Ghost and power from those that what to serve God.
Now reread Revelation 10:7. It is only one mystery that is the answer to all mysteries. It will come to the 7th church age messenger and he will be a prophet.
Wake up brothers and sisters, time is running out.
God Bless
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 07 2012,21:32) Brother Mike, That same Pillar of Fire came and blinded Paul and said His Name was Jesus. Acts 9:3-5
The word in Acts is “light”, not “pillar of fire”. You are adding your own imagination into the scripture. Plus, I haven't ruled out the possibilty that Jesus was the angel of God who was sent to go before the Israelites in the pillar of cloud and fire. It could have been Jesus. Of course, it could have been any one of many myriads of angels.Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 07 2012,21:32) Now brother, I want you to reconcile these. The God of the universe said there is NO GOD beside HIM. And that we will have no other god, beside HIM. And that HE is the ONLY SAVIOUR.
He said there is no God beside Him, and yet He is the God OF gods. Marlin, do you know the difference between emphatical speech, and literal speech?You think that since God said there is no other god, and Jesus is called “god” in the scripture, it means Jesus must BE that same God. Well, I got news for you: There are MANY gods mentioned in the scriptures, including Jehovah, Jesus, and Satan. (I'll be happy to discuss this issue with you in the “Indeed there are many gods” thread I started.)
Similarly, you think that God calling Himself the “only savior” is literal, DESPITE the fact that I showed you scriptures speaking of OTHER saviors God SENT.
Marlin, my questions about this need addressing by you: Why is the Jesus the only savior that God SENT that you think IS the God who sent him? Why don't you think any of the other saviors God SENT are the God who sent them?
So far, you just keep telling me Jesus is God, that's why. But that is called “circular reasoning”.
Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 07 2012,21:32) Then you worship Jesus, (your little god) and make GOD a LIER.
I don't worship Jesus, Marlin. I do, however, recognize him as a lessor god than his own God, Jehovah – just like the scriptures teach. The One I worship is the same one Jesus worshiped in the scriptures. Jesus said to worship ONLY that One. I follow the commands of my Lord, Marlin. Do you?Maybe your answer to the following question will save us a lot of time:
Marlin, do you realize, that according to scripture, our God is the very same God as Jesus' God? YES or NO?
If you believe the words of your Lord in John 20:17, then you'll know that we and Jesus have the very same God. Jesus worships that God. You should too.
Quote Marlin, do you realize, that according to scripture, our God is the very same God as Jesus' God? YES or NO? Brother Mike,
The man Jesus prayed to the same God you and I pray to, YES.
Jesus was the God Man, He was a real man and He was God, as He still is.Which one of the other saviours mentioned in the Word had been born without sin?
Which one was to be called Emanuel (GOD with us).
Which one was to be called Mighty God?
Which one was to be called everlasting Father?
Which one was to be called Prince of Peace?
Which one was to be called the Alpha and Omega?
Which one was the first begotten of the Dead?So if your going to bring up a saviour, make sure that he fits.
I have never said that Jesus sent Himself, that is your imagination.
I said that God created a Temple (Jesus) and dwelt in that temple. Which He DID.Quote The word in Acts is “light”, not “pillar of fire”. You are adding your own imagination into the scripture. Plus, I haven't ruled out the possibilty that Jesus was the angel of God who was sent to go before the Israelites in the pillar of cloud and fire. It could have been Jesus. Of course, it could have been any one of many myriads of angels. The Pillar of fire and the blinding light to Paul are the same. Jesus was the God that went before Israel. Before anything there was Just God. God's Thoughts went forth, the LOGOS (Jesus the Word) John 1. When the time was right Jesus the LOGOS(Word) became flesh and was given the name Jesus.
It was not an angel that was the Pillar of Fire, it was the LORD.
Quote I don't worship Jesus, Marlin. I do, however, recognize him as a lessor god than his own God, Jehovah – just like the scriptures teach. The One I worship is the same one Jesus worshiped in the scriptures. Jesus said to worship ONLY that One. I follow the commands of my Lord, Marlin. Do you? Brother you are in denial, you see Jesus as a god and you pray in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Then you worship two Gods and you also break the first commandment.Brother you do not follow the commands of God, you break the 1st commandment.
God Bless
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 08 2012,22:57) Which one of the other saviours mentioned in the Word had been born without sin?
Which one was to be called Emanuel (GOD with us).
Which one was to be called Mighty God?
Which one was to be called everlasting Father?
Which one was to be called Prince of Peace?
Which one was to be called the Alpha and Omega?
Which one was the first begotten of the Dead?So if your going to bring up a saviour, make sure that he fits.
Why not add, “Which one was named Jesus?” Or “Which one had a mother named Mary?”
Really Marlin? Because Jesus was the firstborn from the dead, it means he was the only savior that God sent who WAS the very God who SENT him?
None of the things you listed explain why Jesus would BE the very God who SENT him as our savior, while none of the other saviors God sent were God Himself. (Btw, emmanuel means “God is with us”, which He proved to be by SENDING His servant Jesus.)
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