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  • #317673
    Marlin1
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    Hi Marlin,

    OK Rapture means: 'a catching away'
    But what does 'a catching away' mean?

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    Rapture (Define)
    the carrying of a person to another place or sphere of existence.

    A Catching away.

    Now will you be able to answer my question?

    bro. Marlin

    #317676
    Ed J
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 26 2012,10:58)

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    Hi Marlin,

    OK Rapture means: 'a catching away'
    But what does 'a catching away' mean?

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    Rapture (Define)
    the carrying of a person to another place or sphere of existence.

    A Catching away.

    Now will you be able to answer my question?

    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Are you eluding to Elijah?

    “And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire,
    and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

    And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof.
    And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

    He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;
    And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah?

    and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over. And when
    the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on
    Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him ” (2 Kings 2:11-1)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317678
    Marlin1
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    Your post didn't actually address the fact that the Son had a DIFFERENT will than his Father and God.  Why not?

    You've also listed a bunch of claims that you believe the scriptures make.  I won't address all of them in one post, but will be happy to address them all, one at a time, if you'd like.  I will address the first one with this post:

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 24 2012,18:46)
    Hi Brother Mike,

    Jesus, talking to the Jews one day, said, “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he was glad.” Then said the Jews unto Him, ‘thou art not yet fifty years old and hast thou seen Abraham?’ Jesus said unto them, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:56-58).

    Who was the great “I AM”?

    1.  YHWH most likely means “I will be”, not “I am”.  It is the Hebrew word “to be”, and is usually translated as “will be” throughout scripture.

    2.  EACH and EVERY time YHWH ever claimed to BE YHWH in the OT, the Hebrew words were “aniy yhwh”, meaning I AM Yahweh.  So even if you insist that “yhwh” means “I am”, you must acknowledge that any time in the OT when Jehovah identified Himself, He said, “I AM I am”.  He never just said the words “I am” to identify Himself as Yahweh.

    So you must ask yourself, “Did Jesus IDENTIFY himself as I am, by saying “I AM I am” in John 8:58?  Because to just say the words “I am”, which, if you think about it, is probably the most common pronoun/verb phrase in any language, really wouldn't mean squat.  Well?  Did Jesus say he WAS “I am”?  

    3.  If the words “I am” in 8:58 were a secret code to point to Jehovah, then what exactly was Jesus saying ABOUT Jehovah?  Let's say “I am” meant “Jehovah” in that verse……………

    Truly I say to you, before Abraham existed, Jehovah!”

    What would that mean, Marlin?  Jehovah WHAT?  Jehovah said WHAT?  Jehovah did WHAT?  It would be like an unfinished sentence, leaving us all wondering WHAT exactly Jesus was saying ABOUT Jehovah.  

    4.  The present tense “I am” in John 8:58 is an example of certain idiomatic problems that occur when translating one language into a different language.  It is similar to a man who speaks English as a second language saying, “I am married to the same woman for 15 years.”

    Of course, we who speak English as our original language will easily understand that this man is saying he HAS BEEN married to the same woman for 15 years.

    This is the same case in 8:58.  Jesus is saying that before Abraham came into being, he has been.

    Proof of this can be found in John 14:9, where Jesus says, “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time?”  

    In the Greek language, Jesus' words are, “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I am among you such a long time?”

    Yet, in English, we all know that Jesus meant “I have been”, and that it is just one of many flukes of translation that happen throughout the scriptures.  And the fact that we all know exactly what Jesus meant is the reason virtually every English translation ever made has “I have been” in 14:9, and not “I am”.

    Yet, the Trinitarian translators don't want to follow the same common sense rule for John 8:58.  Their common sense tells them that Jesus is saying he “has been” even before Abraham existed, but because they try desparately to force the scriptures into teaching Jesus as God Almighty any chance they get, their personal bias gets in the way of a proper translation of 8:58.  Because they think they can make the words of Jesus in 8:58 into some kind of claim to be Jehovah, they translate that verse poorly, on purpose.

    Yet, if they would only consider my first three points above, they would be able to see that, even with their poor translation, there is no way Jesus could have been making a claim to be Jehovah with that simple pronoun/verb phrase.  (In fact, I'd be willing to bet that they HAVE considered the things I wrote in my first three points, but they are counting on the fact that YOU haven't considered them.  :)  )

    At any rate, you now have reason to consider them, and the rest will be up to you.

    peace,
    mike

    Brother Mike,

    I wasn't going to answer this, but after praying, I felt I should.

    My Lexicon shows the old testament I am(einai), I am(eimi)
    In the new testament quote I am (eimi)

    The 2nd thing I would say is that human wisdom is not what I am looking for.

    Thirdly I know that God sent a Prophet and His revelation of the Godhead is correct.
    God the Spirit spoke and the LOGOS (Word) (Jesus) was.
    It was not another God, it was God's own Word Spoken.

    God Spoke again and that spoken Word(LOGOS (Jesus) came forth and a cell was created in a Woman.
    A man like unto us came forth who was God's own SON, God was Tabernacled in Flesh.
    We are not saved by the blood of a JEW or a GENTILE, we are saved by the Blood of God.

    I know that is contrary to what you believe and is very hard to take.

    but that is what God's vindicated Prophet taught.
    God is obligated to vindicate the truth, just like He did in the book of ACTS.
    NO ONE since the book of Acts had the vindication as did the Prophet God sent to the Laodicean Church age.

    Just like I said before, most reject him just like most rejected Jesus, Just like most reject those that bring these truths forth.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #317679
    Marlin1
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    Are you eluding to Elijah?

    “And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire,
    and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

    And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof.
    And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

    He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back, and stood by the bank of Jordan;
    And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah?

    and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over. And when
    the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said, The spirit of Elijah doth rest on
    Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him ” (2 Kings 2:11-1)

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    He was one that was raptured.
    Enoch was also raptured.
    Some old testament saints and Jesus were also raptured.

    That is at least three separate raptures and I believe 2 more to come.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #317765
    terraricca
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    m1

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    God Spoke again and that spoken Word(LOGOS (Jesus) came forth and a cell was created in a Woman.
    A man like unto us came forth who was God's own SON, God was Tabernacled in Flesh.
    We are not saved by the blood of a JEW or a GENTILE, we are saved by the Blood of God.

    I know that is contrary to what you believe and is very hard to take.

    not only against Mikes believes but against the entire scriptures ,no wander why it is not supported by any of Christ disciples or Christ words .

    #317910
    Marlin1
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    not only against Mikes believes but against the entire scriptures ,no wander why it is not supported by any of Christ disciples or Christ words .

    ————–
    Pierre


    Brother Pierre,

    According to the blind Pharisee, Jesus wasn't supported by the scripture either.  It is no different today, the blind still can not see.

    REVELATION 3:17 † Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

    Death comes in a thousand forms, Life has but one.

    God Bless
    bro Marlin

    #317912
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 27 2012,22:40)

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    not only against Mikes believes but against the entire scriptures ,no wander why it is not supported by any of Christ disciples or Christ words .

    ————–
    Pierre


    Brother Pierre,

    According to the blind Pharisee, Jesus wasn't supported by the scripture either.  It is no different today, the blind still can not see.

    REVELATION 3:17 † Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

    Death comes in a thousand forms, Life has but one.

    God Bless
    bro Marlin


    m1

    what make you so sure that you are not the one suffering from ; increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

    naked= no truth
    poor = no good deeds

    blind= no understanding

    miserable= live without God and be materialistic incline with goods rather than Godly works

    when you need to interpret Gods word then you have a problem ,because now you put yourself above God the one that you say you serve,

    ITS LIKE WORKING FOR A COMPAGNY WERE YOU ARE A WORKER AND EACH TIME YOUR BOSS TELLS YOU SOMETHING YOU TELL HIM THAT'S NOT THE WAY ,THIS IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE AND THATS THE TRUTH ,SO PUSH AWAY BECAUSE I WILL TO IT MY WAY ,

    AND WHAT AMMAZES ME IS THAT YOU EXPECT TO BE PAY FOR IT :D :D

    #317925
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 25 2012,18:52)
    Brother Mike,

    I wasn't going to answer this, but after praying, I felt I should.


    Hi Marlin,

    1.  I'm still waiting to hear from you about why Jesus had a different will than the One who sent him.

    2.  I appreciate you trying to address my post, but you didn't really address anything.  For example, I have no idea what you were saying about your Lexicon, or how it was supposed to have refuted any of the points I made in my post.

    3.  For sure Jesus was (and still is) a prophet of his God, YHWH (who happens also to be our God, YHWH).  But Jesus never once taught about any “Godhead”, or any triune God.  You are sadly mistaken if you think he did.  Nor does any scripture even allude to God HAVING blood, let alone saving anyone through His own blood.

    Marlin, it seems that you post certain unscriptural claims, and then when I scrutinize those claims using the words of the scriptures, you completely ignore the scriptural points I made, and just post more unscriptural claims.

    Before you post more and more claims, first stand and defend the ones you've already posted………….. the ones that I've scripturally refuted as false.

    #317926
    Ed J
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 26 2012,11:56)

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    Hi Marlin,

    Are you eluding to Elijah?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Brother Ed,

    He was one that was raptured.
    Enoch was also raptured.
    Some old testament saints and Jesus were also raptured.

    That is at least three separate raptures and I believe 2 more to come.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Please explain.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317927
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2012,03:54)
    m1

    naked= no truth
    poor = no good deeds
    blind= no understanding

    miserable= live without God and be materialistic incline with goods rather than Godly works


    Hi Pierre,

    Sweet!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #317970
    Marlin1
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    Hi Marlin,

    Are you eluding to Elijah?

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    He was one that was raptured.
    Enoch was also raptured.
    Some old testament saints and Jesus were also raptured.

    That is at least three separate raptures and I believe 2 more to come.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    Hi Marlin,

    Please explain.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,
    Explain which part?

    I ask you to explain why you don't believe in a rapture of God's people?
    So far you haven't explained your WHY?

    bro. Marlin

    #317994
    Marlin1
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    Hi Marlin,

    1.  I'm still waiting to hear from you about why Jesus had a different will than the One who sent him.

    2.  I appreciate you trying to address my post, but you didn't really address anything.  For example, I have no idea what you were saying about your Lexicon, or how it was supposed to have refuted any of the points I made in my post.

    3.  For sure Jesus was (and still is) a prophet of his God, YHWH (who happens also to be our God, YHWH).  But Jesus never once taught about any “Godhead”, or any triune God.  You are sadly mistaken if you think he did.  Nor does any scripture even allude to God HAVING blood, let alone saving anyone through His own blood.

    Marlin, it seems that you post certain unscriptural claims, and then when I scrutinize those claims using the words of the scriptures, you completely ignore the scriptural points I made, and just post more unscriptural claims.

    Before you post more and more claims, first stand and defend the ones you've already posted………….. the ones that I've scripturally refuted as false.

    Brother Mike,

    In your imagination you have refuted….

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    1.  I'm still waiting to hear from you about why Jesus had a different will than the One who sent him.


    Jesus had two natures, He was a man of flesh and He was God.
    As man, He hungered, thirsted, felt pain, cried, suffered and died.
    As God, He fed multitudes, opened blind eyes, raised the dead, forgave sins, walked on the water and controlled nature's violent winds, rain and crushing seas!

    ISAIAH 43:11 † I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

    ISAIAH 45:21 † Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

    ISAIAH 42:8 † I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

    All Caps LORD = (Jehovah)

    So Jehovah is our ONE and ONLY Saviour.

    SINCE JEHOVAH IS MAN'S ONLY SAVIOR, HOW COULD JESUS BECOME SAVIOR? WHAT DOES THE NAME “JESUS” LITERALLY MEAN?  Jehovah Saviour

    MATTHEW 1:23 † Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

    LUKE 2:11 † For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

    So this Christ to be born is God with us and our Saviour

    So the same God of the Old testament is God in the new testament.
    Jesus was no less then the God Prophet.

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    Nor does any scripture even allude to God HAVING blood, let alone saving anyone through His own blood.

    Define Begotten
    monogenes    {mon-og-en-ace'}
    AV  — only begotten (6)
        — only (2)
        — only child (1) [9]
    1) single of its kind,

    Jesus was the Spoken Word Seed.  The created BLOOD CELL that God Spoke into existence. Just like the blood in Adam was spoken into existence. The blood cell in Mary's womb was spoken into existence.
    He was the only begotten Son, the only child. It was neither Mary's or Joseph's blood, it was the created blood of God.

    We are not saved by Jesus and God, we are saved by Jesus Christ, The Jehovah of the Old Testament is Jesus of the new.

    Brother Mike, As long as you won't believe the scripture as written and want to use trinity theologians to prove your points, I most likely will continue to ignore any claim that you make.  You have found that your theology is impossible unless you change many scriptures to suit your needs.

    You are like a person I talked to that doesn't believe the bible.  I would show a scripture and they would always say, I don't believe the bible.  You do the same thing, except you say, it doesn't really mean that, Because in the original it most likely meant this.

    The bible was given to us as a guide book to get to the Lord Jesus Christ.  And most have only gotten to the first stage, Justification, some have gotten to the second stage, Sanctification, but very few have received the third stage, (baptism of the Holy Ghost).

    MATTHEW 22:14 † For many are called, but few are chosen.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #318135
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 28 2012,13:04)

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    Hi Marlin,

    Are you eluding to Elijah?

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    He was one that was raptured.
    Enoch was also raptured.
    Some old testament saints and Jesus were also raptured.

    That is at least three separate raptures and I believe 2 more to come.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    Hi Marlin,

    Please explain.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,
    Explain which part?

    I ask you to explain why you don't believe in a rapture of God's people?
    So far you haven't explained your WHY?

    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    “Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver;
     I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.” (Isa 48:10)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #318172
    Marlin1
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    Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver;
    I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.” (Isa 48:10)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed

    Brother Ed,

    I PETER 1:7 † That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

    John 16:33b, “In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.”
    2 Timothy 3:12 “Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.”

    All those that preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ will be persecuted.

    What is the purpose of the Great Tribulation?
    Great Tribulation, Day of the Lord, Day of Wrath, Day of Distress, Day of Trouble, Time of Jacob's Trouble, Day of Darkness and Gloom, and Wrath of the Lamb.

    ROMANS 11:25 † For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

    The time of picking a bride is OVER.

    And it is back to the Jews and the two prophets of Revelations.

    I can not find one place in scripture where God worked with Jews (a nation) and the Gentiles as a Bride at the same time.
    Can you show me one?

    Those people for His Name sake, have already been judged.
    They are as white as snow in His eyes.  They will not go through the judgement. 
    They will be here for a short while and then they will be sent to the palace, at the wedding supper.

    An old testament type would be Joseph (type of Jesus)  When he told his brothers who he was, his bride was in the palace.

    The number of grace is five.  And the spirit of Elijah comes five times.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #318214
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 30 2012,12:43)
    Brother Ed,

    What is the purpose of the Great Tribulation?
    Great Tribulation, Day of the Lord, Day of Wrath, Day of Distress, Day of Trouble, Time of Jacob's Trouble, Day of Darkness and Gloom, and Wrath of the Lamb.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    “And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
     but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them
     as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear
     them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.” (Zech. 13:8-9)
    “These are they which came out of great tribulation” (Revelation 7:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318215
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 30 2012,12:43)
    Brother Ed,

    The number of grace is five.

    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Nope, the number of “Grace” is 34.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #318222
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 28 2012,00:05)
    Brother Mike, As long as you won't believe the scripture as written and want to use trinity theologians to prove your points, I most likely will continue to ignore any claim that you make.  You have found that your theology is impossible unless you change many scriptures to suit your needs.


    Marlin,

    The part of your words that I bolded above describe YOU to a “T”……………….. not ME.  Here, let me prove it to you:

    YOU say:

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 28 2012,00:05)
    As God, He fed multitudes, opened blind eyes, raised the dead, forgave sins, walked on the water and controlled nature's violent winds, rain and crushing seas!

    But SCRIPTURE says:
    Acts 2:22
    “Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.”

    Answer ONE SIMPLE QUESTION to get to the TRUTH of the matter:

    Marlin, did JESUS do miracles, signs and wonders on earth?  

    Or did GOD do miracles, signs and wonders on earth THROUGH His Holy Servant Jesus Christ?

    WHICH CHOICE DO THE SCRIPTURES TEACH?

    I you are able to answer this question DIRECTLY and HONESTLY, it will be a new beginning for you – one without the blinders that Satan has put over your eyes.

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 28 2012,00:05)
    So Jehovah is our ONE and ONLY Saviour.

    SINCE JEHOVAH IS MAN'S ONLY SAVIOR, HOW COULD JESUS BECOME SAVIOR?


    Hmmmm…………….

    Nehemiah 9:27 KJV
    Therefore thou deliveredst them into the hand of their enemies, who vexed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hand of their enemies.

    One question:

    Were these SAVIORS that Jehovah GAVE to Israel also Jehovah Himself?  Or was Nehemiah speaking about the judges of old, who were OTHER SAVIORS that Jehovah GAVE?

    Which one, Marlin?

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Oct. 28 2012,00:05)

    Quote (mikeboll @ 64)
    1.  I'm still waiting to hear from you about why Jesus had a different will than the One who sent him.


    Jesus had two natures, He was a man of flesh and He was God.


    Are you saying that “one nature” of God Almighty had a DIFFERENT WILL than the “other nature” of God Almighty?   ???

    This unsubstantiated claim of yours, which is NOT SUPPORTED by ANY scripture, doesn't do justice to my question, Marlin.  So please DIRECTLY answer my bolded, follow-up question above.

    Nor does your “answer” about God having blood do justice to the original point I made.  Are you able to show any SCRIPTURE that speaks of God Almighty having blood?  YES or NO?

    And finally, your claim that I just “change” the scriptures until they fit my personal desires is baseless, as you haven't addressed my points.  For example, what does it mean to you that the extra words of 1 John 5:7 aren't found in the text of any Greek manuscript until the 14th century?  What does it mean to you that all the more recent TRINITARIAN translations DON'T have those words, because the translators KNEW those words were added much later, and that they were never a part of John's scriptural words?  WHAT DO THOSE FACTS MEAN TO YOU, MARLIN?

    See, you can't just make those FACTS disappear by claiming I'M changing the scriptures to suit my purpose.  It is an asinine claim, because MY points are based on the FACTS of the matter, while it is YOUR points that are based on your own personal wishes.

    The same goes with John 8:58.  Why didn't you bother to address the FACTS I numbered 1 through 4 and listed for you?  Tell me:  What does it mean for Jesus to have said, “Before Abraham came into being, Jehovah!” ?  What did Jesus mean by that statement, Marlin?  Surely he didn't mean “I AM JEHOVAH!”, because the words “I am I am” are not in the text.  Yet anytime Jehovah claimed to be Jehovah in the OT, the Hebrew words were ALWAYS, “I am I am”.

    (That's just ONE of the four points on that scripture that I posted for your consideration.  When will you refute my points?  Or is it better for you to keep bringing up more “proofs” that Jesus is God Almighty, while completely ignoring the fact that I've scripturally shot down all your previous points thus far?)

    Marlin,

    I sense that you are a decent person, and truly want to follow God in your life.  But you have been mislead about God and His SON by who knows who at some point in your life.  I am trying to show you what the scriptures actually say about the matter, and it seems that you just don't want the truth because you're comfortable with the lie.

    Why not actually consider and ADDRESS the points I'm making?  Answering my bolded questions in this post with DIRECT and HONEST answers will be a good start.

    peace,
    mike

    #318288
    Marlin1
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    “And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
    but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them
    as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear
    them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.” (Zech. 13:8-9)
    “These are they which came out of great tribulation” (Revelation 7:14)

    God bless
    Ed J

    Amen brother Ed,

    Except I think you may think this is the bride, which it is not.

    I will try and show this to you.
    REVELATION 5:11 † And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
    DANIEL 7:10 † A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
    Rev 5 comes before Rev 7 and these are the bride, she ministers to her Husband.

    REVELATION 7:4 † And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
    Here you have the Jews, after the Bride is gone.

    REVELATION 7:9 † After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
    This is after the White Throne Judgement.  These are the foolish virgin who had to go through the great tribulation.

    REVELATION 20:5 † But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

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    Marlin1
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    Nope, the number of “Grace” is 34.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    Are you serious? If so please explain.

    bro. Marlin

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    Ed J
    Participant

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    Nope, the number of “Grace” is 34.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    Are you serious?  If so please explain.

    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin, (Link)

    God has orchestrated the proof of his existence encoded into the “AKJV Bible”(74).
    It is called “Gematria”(74) and I have a entire thread on this phenomenon.

    A=1                 G(7) + R(18) + A(1) + C(3) + E(5) = 34
    B=2
    C=3

    X=24
    Y=25
    Z=26

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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