MIKE, TERRA, ED

[Devolution]

Mike, Terra, Ed.

I have an important question for you three.

Do you three believe that God preserved His written word unto all generations?

Yes or no?

[terraricca]

Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 21 2012,08:25)

Mike, Terra, Ed. I have an important question for you three. Do you three believe that God preserved His written word unto all generations? Yes or no?

devo

yes I do believe that ;but how did he do it would be the next question right

[mikeboll64]

Yes.

[Ed J]

Yes

[Ed J]

To All,  (Link)

Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people.

1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].

The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 21 2012,16:06)

To All,  (Link) Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever. Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people. 1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic), or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate]. The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

you have to give your personal view to make God dependable on you right

[Ed J]

No,

I have to give my personal view to help the unlearned.  

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 21 2012,21:57)

No, I have to give my personal view to help the unlearned.   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

yes agreed but at the least make it a truth not an opinion ,

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2012,15:36)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 21 2012,21:57) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2012,09:14) edj you have to give your personal view to make God dependable on you right No, I have to give my personal view to help the unlearned.   God bless Ed J edj yes agreed but at the least make it a truth not an opinion ,

PIERRE

“Opinion” can line up with truth – you do know that, do you not?  

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 22 2012,00:43)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2012,15:36) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 21 2012,21:57) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2012,09:14) edj you have to give your personal view to make God dependable on you right No, I have to give my personal view to help the unlearned.   God bless Ed J edj yes agreed but at the least make it a truth not an opinion , PIERRE “Opinion” can line up with truth – you do know that, do you not?   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

if so I do not call it an opinion but a understanding based on……

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2012,04:30)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 22 2012,00:43) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2012,15:36) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 21 2012,21:57) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2012,09:14) edj you have to give your personal view to make God dependable on you right No, I have to give my personal view to help the unlearned.   God bless Ed J edj yes agreed but at the least make it a truth not an opinion , PIERRE “Opinion” can line up with truth – you do know that, do you not?   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj if so I do not call it an opinion but a understanding based on……

Hi Pierre,

You can 'label' anything the way you want,
but it does not change the truth.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Devolution]

Thank you Mike, Terra, Ed for answering.

So we all believe Gods promise to preserve His written word.

pre·serve (pr-zûrv)
v. pre·served, pre·serv·ing, pre·serves
v.tr.
1. To maintain in safety from injury, peril, or harm; protect.
2. To keep in perfect or unaltered condition; maintain unchanged.
3. To keep or maintain intact:

Anyone have a problem with the definition of preserved so far?

[Ed J]

Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 22 2012,12:43)

Thank you Mike, Terra, Ed for answering. So we all believe Gods promise to preserve His written word. pre·serve  (pr-zûrv) v. pre·served, pre·serv·ing, pre·serves v.tr. 1. To maintain in safety from injury, peril, or harm; protect. 2. To keep in perfect or unaltered condition; maintain unchanged. 3. To keep or maintain intact: Anyone have a problem with the definition of preserved so far?

#2

[terraricca]

Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 22 2012,19:43)

Thank you Mike, Terra, Ed for answering. So we all believe Gods promise to preserve His written word. pre·serve  (pr-zûrv) v. pre·served, pre·serv·ing, pre·serves v.tr. 1. To maintain in safety from injury, peril, or harm; protect. 2. To keep in perfect or unaltered condition; maintain unchanged. 3. To keep or maintain intact: Anyone have a problem with the definition of preserved so far?

no

[journey42]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 22 2012,13:22)

Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 22 2012,12:43) Thank you Mike, Terra, Ed for answering. So we all believe Gods promise to preserve His written word. pre·serve  (pr-zûrv) v. pre·served, pre·serv·ing, pre·serves v.tr. 1. To maintain in safety from injury, peril, or harm; protect. 2. To keep in perfect or unaltered condition; maintain unchanged. 3. To keep or maintain intact: Anyone have a problem with the definition of preserved so far? #2

Hi Edj

Are you against the definition of preserved in #2?

Quote

2. To keep in perfect or unaltered condition; maintain unchanged.

[terraricca]

j42

so were are we going from here ??

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 21 2012,19:43)

Anyone have a problem with the definition of preserved so far?

Well, unless we have before us the original parchments upon which Moses, Samuel, Peter, Paul, etc wrote their letters/laws/prophesies, then I don't think we can honestly say that God's written word was “kept in perfect or unaltered condition”, or “maintained unchanged”.

There have been many changes and additions through the years.  And we can't even be sure that the OLDEST mss we have found are completely accurate, because we don't possess the ORIGINAL writings.

I answered “YES” to your first question, thinking that by “preserved” you meant, “still available to us today”.  But since there isn't even one ancient ms that matches exactly with any other ancient ms, I know for a fact we can't say the written word survived “unaltered” or “unchanged”.

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 23 2012,03:46)

j42 so were are we going from here ??

Pierre

I am simply asking Ed to clarify.
We are talking about God's Word here.

2 Timothy 3:16   All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Proverbs 1:23   Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

If one dares to believe that God's Word was preserved, unaltered, unchanged, and remaining the same … the way he intended it to be delivered to us, in whichever way he chose to deliver it,
then the above scriptures declare God's Word true, and not misleading, for God cannot lie.

[terraricca]

J42

If one dares to believe that God's Word was preserved, THIS WE KNOW FOR SURE ,

unaltered, THIS WE DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE THE EXENT OF IT ,BUT THE MESSAGE REMAIN S

unchanged,;THIS IS TRUE

and remaining the same ;THE SAME TO WHAT TO THE ORIGINAL OR TO THE OLDEST AVAILABLE MANUSCRIPS

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Proverbs 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

THOSE SCRIPTURES SHOWS THAT IT IS GODS SPIRIT THAT HIS THE ULTIMATE HOLDER OF THE SCRIPTURES UNDERSTANDING ,

THIS LEAVES US ALL IN HIS HANDS FOR THE TRUE MEANING OF IT ,AND GOD ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT UNLESS WE SEEK HIM WITH A PURE HEART ,AND PURE INTENTION ,WITH ALL OUR MIND AND SOUL IN TRUTH WE WILL NEVER COME TO THE TRUE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD AND HIS SON ,

this is my understanding .

[Ed J]

Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 22 2012,23:45)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 22 2012,13:22) Quote (Devolution @ Aug. 22 2012,12:43) Thank you Mike, Terra, Ed for answering. So we all believe Gods promise to preserve His written word. pre·serve  (pr-zûrv) v. pre·served, pre·serv·ing, pre·serves v.tr. 1. To maintain in safety from injury, peril, or harm; protect. 2. To keep in perfect or unaltered condition; maintain unchanged. 3. To keep or maintain intact: Anyone have a problem with the definition of preserved so far? #2 Hi Edj Are you against the definition of preserved in #2? Quote 2. To keep in perfect or unaltered condition; maintain unchanged.

Hi Georgie,

This definition does not apply to the use of translators,
who translate the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek into English.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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