Melchizekek

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  • #382646
    kerwin
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    Journey,

    His arrival into Scripture and departure from Scripture is a mystery. We are told little of him.

    #382653
    NickHassan
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    Hi j42,
    Let scripture use allegory.

    His parentage is not known or recorded but we should not assume he actually did not have any
    Nor should we assume he was and angel or Jesus.

    Any spiritual connections are not of the Holy Spirit as the Spirit does not add to scripture
    If you do what about the king of sodom??

    #382658
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Isaiah 48:4 Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass;

    wakeup.

    #382668
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Are you tiring of fighting scripture?

    #382674
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2014,12:36)
    Journey,

    His arrival into Scripture and departure from Scripture is a mystery.  We are told little of him.


    Kerwin.

    It is a mystery; only God can open the eyes.

    wakeup.

    #382697
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2014,13:12)
    Hi j42,
    Let scripture use allegory.

    His parentage is not known or recorded but we should not assume he actually did not have any
    Nor should we assume he was and angel or Jesus.

    Any spiritual connections are not of the Holy Spirit as the Spirit does not add to scripture
    If you do what about the king of sodom??


    Hi Nick

    The holy spirit doesn't add to scripture, but shows us how to connect the dots.  This is where revelation is, and it's in the words.

    I am not assuming he was an angel.  Angels are creatures, but also spirit.  I just wanted to give you an example that angels can translate into flesh, then disappear again.

    It doesn't say his parentage is not Known.  It clearly states
    “without father, without mother, without descent” (who has no descent?)

    “nor beginning of days, (never born) nor end of life (never died)

    “But made like the Son of God” ….like the Son of God..(There was no son born yet, so could not call him the Son yet) he was still the Word of God (before his transformation)

    That's fine.  I've shown you, and I stand by what I've said.
    You don't have to believe it.

    #382698
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2014,12:36)
    Journey,

    His arrival into Scripture and departure from Scripture is a mystery.  We are told little of him.


    Hi Kerwin

    It's not a mystery to Wakeup and myself.
    We are showing you,
    but once again, these pearls are being trodden on.

    We and are given enough information to work it out.
    There are “Keywords” in those scriptures. Examine them carefully.

    #382705
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Journey………Nick is right, it is just stating his genealogy is no recorded, it is not say he did not have a father or mother or descendants, it is just not recorded for us . If he is a man as scripture says then he had to have human parents. Just that simple brother. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours……………….. Gene

    #382707
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 18 2014,01:09)
    Journey………Nick is right, it is just stating his genealogy  is no recorded, it is not say he did not have a father or mother or descendants, it is just not recorded for us .  If he is a man as scripture says then he had to have human parents. Just that simple brother. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours……………….. Gene


    Hi Gene

    He did not appear as a ghost, but a man.
    Read the scripture carefully, again.

    A man so GREAT having no father or mother, is not a descendant of anyone, has no beginning and no end?
    That's what the scripture states.
    Consider how GREAT this man was.

    #382709
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    And Jesus is a priest after the order of Melchizadek.

    #382713
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    Connecting the dots is of inference and presumption
    You inference would not be mine
    The Holy Spirit is of truth

    #382725
    kerwin
    Participant

    To all,

    Melchizedek(Melchisedec) has no father or mother mentioned in Scripture. His day of conception, birth, or death are not mentioned. They are all mysteries.

    Because of this he is always a priest and so is a likeness of the Son of God.

    #382737
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ May 18 2014,07:49)
    To all,

    Melchizedek(Melchisedec)  has no father or mother mentioned in Scripture.  His day of conception, birth, or death are not mentioned. They are all mysteries.  

    Because of this he is always a priest and so is a likeness of the Son of God.


    Kerwin.

    Commonsense will tell; that if one is ever born, nor ever died,
    He is not created.
    He is not born of water and of blood.
    That is why Melchizedek is The Word of God translated into flesh.Appearing as flesh.

    We also know that Jesus can not be second to any man.
    Anyone that believe Jesus is second to Melchizedek;
    He is worshipping another Jesus.

    wakeup.

    #382741
    kerwin
    Participant

    Wakeup,

    Translated does not mean appear, it means changed.

    There is no place in Scripture he is said to be God. That is just what you choose to conclude from what Paul states. Scripture instead states he is the high priest of God. God is the one he serves as high priest. He is not his own high priest.

    #382755
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Yes presumption is not faith

    #382762
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ May 18 2014,10:18)
    Wakeup,

    Translated does not mean appear, it means changed.

    There is no place in Scripture he is said to be God.  That is just what you choose to conclude from what Paul states.   Scripture instead states he is the high priest of God.  God is the one he serves as high priest.  He is not his own high priest.


    Kerwin.

    Where did I say that He is God?
    I said the Word of God.

    wakeup.

    #382792
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2014,03:22)
    Hi J42,
    And Jesus is a priest after the order of Melchizadek.


    Nick

    And was Melchizadek greater than Jesus?

    #382793
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2014,04:46)
    Hi J42,
    Connecting the dots is of inference and presumption
    You inference would not be mine
    The Holy Spirit is of truth


    Nick

    Those dots are called scriptures.
    A clue here and a clue there.

    So what have you got to present to the case?

    #382805
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi J42,
    Clues are for detectives and not scripture scholars

    #382826
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2014,19:16)
    Hi J42,
    Clues are for detectives and not scripture scholars


    Nick.

    For this reason you dont have a clue.

    wakeup.

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