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- May 17, 2014 at 1:36 am#382646kerwinParticipant
Journey,
His arrival into Scripture and departure from Scripture is a mystery. We are told little of him.
May 17, 2014 at 2:12 am#382653NickHassanParticipantHi j42,
Let scripture use allegory.His parentage is not known or recorded but we should not assume he actually did not have any
Nor should we assume he was and angel or Jesus.Any spiritual connections are not of the Holy Spirit as the Spirit does not add to scripture
If you do what about the king of sodom??May 17, 2014 at 2:27 am#382658WakeupParticipantIsaiah 48:4 Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass;
wakeup.
May 17, 2014 at 3:21 am#382668NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Are you tiring of fighting scripture?May 17, 2014 at 3:44 am#382674WakeupParticipantQuote (kerwin @ May 17 2014,12:36) Journey, His arrival into Scripture and departure from Scripture is a mystery. We are told little of him.
Kerwin.It is a mystery; only God can open the eyes.
wakeup.
May 17, 2014 at 6:04 am#382697journey42ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2014,13:12) Hi j42,
Let scripture use allegory.His parentage is not known or recorded but we should not assume he actually did not have any
Nor should we assume he was and angel or Jesus.Any spiritual connections are not of the Holy Spirit as the Spirit does not add to scripture
If you do what about the king of sodom??
Hi NickThe holy spirit doesn't add to scripture, but shows us how to connect the dots. This is where revelation is, and it's in the words.
I am not assuming he was an angel. Angels are creatures, but also spirit. I just wanted to give you an example that angels can translate into flesh, then disappear again.
It doesn't say his parentage is not Known. It clearly states
“without father, without mother, without descent” (who has no descent?)“nor beginning of days, (never born) nor end of life (never died)
“But made like the Son of God” ….like the Son of God..(There was no son born yet, so could not call him the Son yet) he was still the Word of God (before his transformation)
That's fine. I've shown you, and I stand by what I've said.
You don't have to believe it.May 17, 2014 at 6:09 am#382698journey42ParticipantQuote (kerwin @ May 17 2014,12:36) Journey, His arrival into Scripture and departure from Scripture is a mystery. We are told little of him.
Hi KerwinIt's not a mystery to Wakeup and myself.
We are showing you,
but once again, these pearls are being trodden on.We and are given enough information to work it out.
There are “Keywords” in those scriptures. Examine them carefully.May 17, 2014 at 2:09 pm#382705GeneBalthropParticipantJourney………Nick is right, it is just stating his genealogy is no recorded, it is not say he did not have a father or mother or descendants, it is just not recorded for us . If he is a man as scripture says then he had to have human parents. Just that simple brother. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours……………….. Gene
May 17, 2014 at 4:15 pm#382707journey42ParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ May 18 2014,01:09) Journey………Nick is right, it is just stating his genealogy is no recorded, it is not say he did not have a father or mother or descendants, it is just not recorded for us . If he is a man as scripture says then he had to have human parents. Just that simple brother. IMO Peace and love to you and yours……………….. Gene
Hi GeneHe did not appear as a ghost, but a man.
Read the scripture carefully, again.A man so GREAT having no father or mother, is not a descendant of anyone, has no beginning and no end?
That's what the scripture states.
Consider how GREAT this man was.May 17, 2014 at 4:22 pm#382709NickHassanParticipantHi J42,
And Jesus is a priest after the order of Melchizadek.May 17, 2014 at 5:46 pm#382713NickHassanParticipantHi J42,
Connecting the dots is of inference and presumption
You inference would not be mine
The Holy Spirit is of truthMay 17, 2014 at 8:49 pm#382725kerwinParticipantTo all,
Melchizedek(Melchisedec) has no father or mother mentioned in Scripture. His day of conception, birth, or death are not mentioned. They are all mysteries.
Because of this he is always a priest and so is a likeness of the Son of God.
May 17, 2014 at 10:59 pm#382737WakeupParticipantQuote (kerwin @ May 18 2014,07:49) To all, Melchizedek(Melchisedec) has no father or mother mentioned in Scripture. His day of conception, birth, or death are not mentioned. They are all mysteries.
Because of this he is always a priest and so is a likeness of the Son of God.
Kerwin.Commonsense will tell; that if one is ever born, nor ever died,
He is not created.
He is not born of water and of blood.
That is why Melchizedek is The Word of God translated into flesh.Appearing as flesh.We also know that Jesus can not be second to any man.
Anyone that believe Jesus is second to Melchizedek;
He is worshipping another Jesus.wakeup.
May 17, 2014 at 11:18 pm#382741kerwinParticipantWakeup,
Translated does not mean appear, it means changed.
There is no place in Scripture he is said to be God. That is just what you choose to conclude from what Paul states. Scripture instead states he is the high priest of God. God is the one he serves as high priest. He is not his own high priest.
May 18, 2014 at 12:11 am#382755NickHassanParticipantHi,
Yes presumption is not faithMay 18, 2014 at 1:27 am#382762WakeupParticipantQuote (kerwin @ May 18 2014,10:18) Wakeup, Translated does not mean appear, it means changed.
There is no place in Scripture he is said to be God. That is just what you choose to conclude from what Paul states. Scripture instead states he is the high priest of God. God is the one he serves as high priest. He is not his own high priest.
Kerwin.Where did I say that He is God?
I said the Word of God.wakeup.
May 18, 2014 at 5:44 am#382792journey42ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2014,03:22) Hi J42,
And Jesus is a priest after the order of Melchizadek.
NickAnd was Melchizadek greater than Jesus?
May 18, 2014 at 5:52 am#382793journey42ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2014,04:46) Hi J42,
Connecting the dots is of inference and presumption
You inference would not be mine
The Holy Spirit is of truth
NickThose dots are called scriptures.
A clue here and a clue there.So what have you got to present to the case?
May 18, 2014 at 8:16 am#382805NickHassanParticipantHi J42,
Clues are for detectives and not scripture scholarsMay 18, 2014 at 2:27 pm#382826WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 18 2014,19:16) Hi J42,
Clues are for detectives and not scripture scholars
Nick.For this reason you dont have a clue.
wakeup.
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