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- August 24, 2012 at 12:37 am#310389Ed JParticipant
Hi Wakeup,
Jesus was born – so we know he had a beginning of life; correct?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 24, 2012 at 3:51 am#310396journey42ParticipantQuote Was not Shem priest of the most high God?
EdjCan you show me scripture which says that Shem was a high priest of God? I cannot find it in the scriptures?
This is what I know about Shem. Shem is the Father of the Israelites.
Genesis 6:10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Genesis 9:19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.The Israelites are the Sons of Shem
The Europeans are the sons of Japeth
Genesis 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras
Genesis 10:5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.The Philistines & Egyptians are sons of Ham.
Genesis 9:18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Sham, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.
Genesis 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.Genesis 9:26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
Genesis 10:18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.
Genesis 9:27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
Japheth – Europeans (later welcomed the New Testatment)
Shem – Israel (stuck with the old Testament)
But both worship the Same God of the Holy Bible. They are under the same Tent (one under the old, and one under the new)
Ham doesn't share this tent. (They don't accept the holy scriptures as the Word of God – (old or new test.) have their own version)So out of Ham, came the islamic nations, always at war against Shem (Israel) and still fighting for that piece of land in Jerusalem which God gave the Israelites. So they are fighting God. Scripture says that Cannan (Ham) will serve Shem. This is a prophesy also and will be completely fulfilled during the 1000 year reign of Christ.
Japeth (Europeans) share the same tent as Israel, because they believe in the Son of God, Jesus Christ. Ham's lot do not. Ham's lot will be taught by the Israelites in the Millenium. Instead of fighting against Jerusalem, they will be taught by her.This does not mean that all Shem and Japeths decendants will be saved in the end, as we know only those that followed Christ will, but they came out of these nations (Israel,& Europe)
Even if they are of Ham, and come to the truth, they have salvation, like anyone, ….there will be only a few here and there, …but all those nations as a whole will not accept Christ till the very bitter end. And the sad thing is that modern day Japeth is heading that way now too.No where can I find that Shem was a High Priest, but he plays a big part in fathering Israel's bloodline.
August 24, 2012 at 4:13 am#310400Ed JParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Aug. 24 2012,14:51) Quote Was not Shem priest of the most high God?
EdjCan you show me scripture which says that Shem was a high priest of God? I cannot find it in the scriptures?
Hi Georgie,“And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
and he was the priest of the most high God.” (Gen 14:18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 24, 2012 at 5:45 am#310408journey42ParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2012,15:13) Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 24 2012,14:51) Quote Was not Shem priest of the most high God?
EdjCan you show me scripture which says that Shem was a high priest of God? I cannot find it in the scriptures?
Hi Georgie,“And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
and he was the priest of the most high God.” (Gen 14:18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EdjThat does not say Shem was a high Priest.
It says Melchizedek was.
There was no King in Salem then.
Salem did not even exist.
Salem means PeaceAugust 24, 2012 at 11:51 am#310414WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2012,11:37) Hi Wakeup, Jesus was born – so we know he had a beginning of life; correct?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.The tranformation from spirit to flesh happened at his birth,yes.
Before he was tranformed he was spirit with God from everlasting.
wakeup.
August 24, 2012 at 12:53 pm#310418terrariccaParticipantj42
Quote Pierre You tell me what Priests of God were around in Abrahams day?
Abraham was the one who had contact with God, then his son Isaac was also loved by God, and also his grandson Lot. Where is Melchisedek's lineage? Why is it not mentioned, with such a high title, King of Righeousness, and King of Peace? No mention of his lineage? Cause there is no lineage. No mother or father. But your bible says no KNOWN mother or father, so there, you cannot understand the scripture, for it gives you the wrong meaning, implying no-one knew who his mother or father was, when in fact he did not have one.I AM PAYING ATTENTION TO MELCHIZEDEK BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE TOPIC IS ABOUT.
Genesis 15 has nothing to do with Melchezeldek. You are off track and still can't explain.
you paying attention right ,and from there you are inventing and building your own scriptures right yes
WHAT HIS A PRIEST
August 24, 2012 at 2:09 pm#310427Ed JParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Aug. 24 2012,16:45) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2012,15:13) Quote (journey42 @ Aug. 24 2012,14:51) Quote Was not Shem priest of the most high God?
EdjCan you show me scripture which says that Shem was a high priest of God? I cannot find it in the scriptures?
Hi Georgie,“And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
and he was the priest of the most high God.” (Gen 14:18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EdjThat does not say Shem was a high Priest.
It says Melchizedek was.
There was no King in Salem then.
Salem did not even exist.
Salem means Peace
Melchizedek was Shem.August 24, 2012 at 2:20 pm#310430terrariccaParticipantEDDY
(Melchizedek was Shem.)
IN WITCH SCRIPTURE
August 24, 2012 at 2:33 pm#310432Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:20) EDDY (Melchizedek was Shem.)
IN WITCH SCRIPTURE
Hi Pierre, (Jasher 16:11-12)Is not this written in the book of Jasher? (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 24, 2012 at 2:53 pm#310435terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,08:33) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:20) EDDY (Melchizedek was Shem.)
IN WITCH SCRIPTURE
Hi Pierre, (Jasher 16:11-12)Is not this written in the book of Jasher? (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjQuote the book of Jasher Perhaps the closest approach to an official acknowledgment of the Book of Jasher among the latter-day saints was when the Prophet Joseph Smith quoted from it as a source which had “not been disproved as a bad author.”[2] The saints became more enamored with the book than did the rest of the Judeo-Christian world, and certain members of the Church secured the copyright and republished the work in 1887 in Salt Lake City. Various photocopy reprints of that edition are still available, and the book is also accessible in its entirety on the Internet.[
Again, Jasher is mentioned as a reference, but this time it is not immediately obvious why it is included. If Samuel is merely noting David's educational curriculum, why give this reference when there are precious few sources given for all his other deeds? It was very unusual for ancient historians to provide references, so this one is somewhat mysterious.
Other Books of Jasher. There are at least three books published in modern times which have been called “The Book of Jasher”, which are entirely different books. One is a Hebrew treatise on ethics, for which no one makes the claim of being a lost book of scripture.[8] Another is an easily detected fraud, published in 1751, which claims to have been translated into English by Flaccus Albinus Alcuinus.[9] It is still in print, so if you obtain a copy of the Book of Jasher, make sure it is not that one. It is sometimes called Pseudo-Jasher to distinguish it from the third Book of Jasher, which is a legitimate Hebrew document and the subject of this article.
The Hebrew Source. When Titus destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70, an officer named Sidrus discovered a hidden library complete with a scholar hiding there. The officer had mercy on the man and took him and the books to his residence at what is now Seville, Spain, but was then called Hispalis, capital of the Roman province Hispalensis. The manuscript was donated to the Jewish college at Cordova, Spain, and after printing was invented, the Jewish scholars had the book printed in Hebrew in Venice in 1625.[10]
WELL THAT BOOK FOR SURE AS OBSCURE BACK GROUND ,so I will stick to scriptures as they have been accepted as being true within them selves .
August 24, 2012 at 3:30 pm#310439Ed JParticipantHi Pierre,
The “book of Jasher” can be compared to the “book of Maccabees” – or “Kings” and “Chronicles” (of the bible).
They were both written a historical record of the children of Israel.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 24, 2012 at 5:37 pm#310444terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,09:30) Hi Pierre, The “book of Jasher” can be compared to the “book of Maccabees” – or “Kings” and “Chronicles” (of the bible).
They were both written a historical record of the children of Israel.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edI know all about them ,this is my point ,I never use them ,
I am not interested in mens view ,
August 24, 2012 at 5:38 pm#310445terrariccaParticipanted
Quote or “Kings” and “Chronicles” (of the bible). why are you not believing the colter UB DO NOT MIXED THE BIBLE WITH THE APOCRIPHE BOOKS
August 24, 2012 at 6:21 pm#310447Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,04:38) ed Quote or “Kings” and “Chronicles” (of the bible). why are you not believing the colter UB DO NOT MIXED THE BIBLE WITH THE APOCRIPHE BOOKS
Hi Pierre,I did read the 'UB' book myself (about 8 years ago).
Is not YOUR opinion to be compared with Colter's?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 24, 2012 at 8:53 pm#310465terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,12:21) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,04:38) ed Quote or “Kings” and “Chronicles” (of the bible). why are you not believing the colter UB DO NOT MIXED THE BIBLE WITH THE APOCRIPHE BOOKS
Hi Pierre,I did read the 'UB' book myself (about 8 years ago).
Is not YOUR opinion to be compared with Colter's?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edwell you have a point
August 24, 2012 at 9:58 pm#310476Ed JParticipant.
September 21, 2012 at 11:45 pm#313694Ed JParticipantHi Everyone,
“And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the
most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God,
possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath de-
livered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.” (Gen.14:18-20)Just because the writer of the book of Hebrews didn't know
who Melchizedek was, does not mean that God didn't know.
Melchizedek is declared to be Shem in “the book of Jasher”.
(See biblical References: Joshua 10:13 and 2Samuel 1:18)Melchizedek filled the office of a King/Priest;
Jesus later permanently fills the King/Priest office.“The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou (Jesus) art a priest for ever
after the order [the King/Priest office] of Melchizedek.” Psalms 110:4“And Adonizedek king of Jerusalem, the same was Shem, went out with his men to meet Abram
and his people, with bread and wine, and they remained together in the valley of Melech.
And Adonizedek blessed Abram, and Abram gave him a tenth from all that he had
brought from the spoil of his enemies, for Adonizedek was a priest before God.” (Jasher 16:11-12)
Shem is also shown to be alive (during the entire lifespan of Abraham) in this historical bible linage chart.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 21, 2012 at 11:53 pm#313696Ed JParticipantHi Everyone,
Sorry about the chart being over-sized.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 28, 2014 at 5:45 am#384979Ed JParticipantBump for Wakeup
May 28, 2014 at 5:55 am#384983WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 22 2012,10:53) Hi Everyone, Sorry about the chart being over-sized.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed.Was Shem without father and without mother;
and with no beginning of life; and no end of life?wakeup.
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