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Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Born of water (Natural birth)
Born of Spirit (Born Again)Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Born of water (Natural birth)
Born of Spirit (Born Again)
Was jesus born again as you all are?wakeup.
Hi WU,
Of course Jesus had never sinned and was a clean vessel.
The repentance baptism of John was only to fulfil all righteousness.
As God expected all the Jews to obey the command he included himselfQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2014,09:42) Hi WU,
Water and the Spirit at the Jordan.
We followed him.
NICKWHERE YOUR MIRACLES
DO YOU TELL THE TRUTH ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES
CAN YOU SEE THE HEARTS OF MEN
BY THE TIME I QUOTE ALL WHAT CHRIST COULD DO ,
THEIR WOULD BE NOTHING LEFT THAT RESEMBLES ANY OF US ,EXCEPT THE TUNIC HE WAS WEARING AT THE CROSS AND GOT GAMED OUT AND TEARED IN TWO PARTS
Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,14:41) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J
Born of water (Natural birth)
Born of Spirit (Born Again)
Was jesus born again as you all are?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus' spirit was right before God.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2014,09:47) Hi WU,
Of course Jesus had never sinned and was a clean vessel.
The repentance baptism of John was only to fulfil all righteousness.
As God expected all the Jews to obey the command he included himself
nICKQuote The repentance baptism of John was only to fulfil all righteousness. THAT ARE YOUR WORDS BUT WHAT IS THE SCRIPTURES SAYS ;
Mt 3:13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John.
Mt 3:14 But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?”
Mt 3:15 Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John consented.NET ©
So Jesus replied 1 to him, “Let it happen now, 2 for it is right for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then John 3 yielded 4 to him.
NIV ©
Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfil all righteousness.” Then John consented.
NASB ©
But Jesus answering said to him, “Permit it at this time; for in this way it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he *permitted Him.
NLT ©
But Jesus said, “It must be done, because we must do everything that is right.” So then John baptized him.
MSG ©
But Jesus insisted. “Do it. God's work, putting things right all these centuries, is coming together right now in this baptism.” So John did it.
BBE ©
But Jesus made answer, saying to him, Let it be so now: because so it is right for us to make righteousness complete. Then he gave him baptism.
NRSV ©
But Jesus answered him, “Let it be so now; for it is proper for us in this way to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he consented.
NKJV ©
But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.1)Let it happen now,WHY
WHAT 2)for it is proper for us in this way to fulfill all righteousness ;IT WAS NOT THE BAPTISM THAT WAS IN QUESTION BUT THE ACTION TO BE DONE ,THAT WAS TO BE DONE SO IT FULFILLS ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS ;BUT WHAT WAS THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS ;
BECAUSE IT WAS NOT THE BAPTISM ,CHRIST BEING WITHOUT SIN ,3) Lk 3:21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too ;WAS CHRIST THE LAST ONE TO BE BAPTIZED
4)Lk 4:17 The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
Lk 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to release the oppressed,
Lk 4:19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”ISA 6:8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?” Then I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
THOSE VERSES ARE ALL THE RIGHTEOUSNESS CHRIST WAS CONCERN WITH ;THE WILL OF HIS FATHER ;THE PROPHECIES
Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,15:00) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,14:41) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J
Born of water (Natural birth)
Born of Spirit (Born Again)
Was jesus born again as you all are?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus' spirit was right before God.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
In God and in Jesus; not before God.So simple and yet so misunderstood.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,16:45) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,15:00) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,14:41) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J
Born of water (Natural birth)
Born of Spirit (Born Again)
Was jesus born again as you all are?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus' spirit was right before God.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
In God and in Jesus; not before God.So simple and yet so misunderstood.
wakeup.
not “in” but “with” GodPS 7:10 My shield is with God,
Who saves the upright in heart.
HOS 12:3 In the womb he took his brother by the heel,
And in his maturity he contended with God.
MT 19:26 And looking at them Jesus said to them, “ With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”MK 10:27 Looking at them, Jesus *said, “ With people it is impossible, but not with God; for all things are possible with God.”
LK 1:30 The angel said to her, “ Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God.
LK 1:37 “For nothing will be impossible with God.”
LK 2:52 And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.LK 18:27 But He said, “ The things that are impossible with people are possible with God.”
JN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
JN 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.'WITH GOD” NOT “IN” GOD /FATHER
TRINIS LIKE TO PUT THINGS INSIDE OF EACH OTHER ;
Quote (terraricca @ May 31 2014,01:17) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,16:45) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,15:00) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,14:41) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J
Born of water (Natural birth)
Born of Spirit (Born Again)
Was jesus born again as you all are?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus' spirit was right before God.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
In God and in Jesus; not before God.So simple and yet so misunderstood.
wakeup.
not “in” but “with” GodPS 7:10 My shield is with God,
Who saves the upright in heart.
HOS 12:3 In the womb he took his brother by the heel,
And in his maturity he contended with God.
MT 19:26 And looking at them Jesus said to them, “ With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”MK 10:27 Looking at them, Jesus *said, “ With people it is impossible, but not with God; for all things are possible with God.”
LK 1:30 The angel said to her, “ Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God.
LK 1:37 “For nothing will be impossible with God.”
LK 2:52 And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.LK 18:27 But He said, “ The things that are impossible with people are possible with God.”
JN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
JN 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.'WITH GOD” NOT “IN” GOD /FATHER
TRINIS LIKE TO PUT THINGS INSIDE OF EACH OTHER ;
No. The HS is in Jesus,and can be in us also.Not with us.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,21:03) Quote (terraricca @ May 31 2014,01:17) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,16:45) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,15:00) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,14:41) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J
Born of water (Natural birth)
Born of Spirit (Born Again)
Was jesus born again as you all are?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Jesus' spirit was right before God.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
In God and in Jesus; not before God.So simple and yet so misunderstood.
wakeup.
not “in” but “with” GodPS 7:10 My shield is with God,
Who saves the upright in heart.
HOS 12:3 In the womb he took his brother by the heel,
And in his maturity he contended with God.
MT 19:26 And looking at them Jesus said to them, “ With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”MK 10:27 Looking at them, Jesus *said, “ With people it is impossible, but not with God; for all things are possible with God.”
LK 1:30 The angel said to her, “ Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God.
LK 1:37 “For nothing will be impossible with God.”
LK 2:52 And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.LK 18:27 But He said, “ The things that are impossible with people are possible with God.”
JN 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
JN 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.'WITH GOD” NOT “IN” GOD /FATHER
TRINIS LIKE TO PUT THINGS INSIDE OF EACH OTHER ;
No. The HS is in Jesus,and can be in us also.Not with us.
wakeup.
WAKEUPYou can follow your view but I will follow scriptures of truth and not be deceived by men manipulation of God's word,
the blessed ones will see through those manipulation because of the true spirit God as saved within his scriptures ,
you never will come to God 's truth by not following the spirit that God as hidden and saved in the scriptures ,
Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Born of water (Natural birth)
Born of Spirit (Born Again)
Hi ED,
There are no scriptures to support being born of water = natural birth.
Not a strong foundation.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2014,06:19) Hi ED,
If we must be born of water and it means natural birth who is not ?
God does not waste words
Who is born of the flesh IS FLESH.
I am flesh; I breath air; I still need food and water to survive.wakeup.
Hi WU,
Exactly.
But you need to access the waters of life before the cord breaks and the bucket falls into the well[ecc12]Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2014,06:17) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:20) Quote (Ed J @ May 30 2014,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ May 30 2014,12:51) First the natural, and then the spiritual.
Do you understand?
Hi Wakeup,Yes, of course – First the natural birth (like Adam) then the Spiritual re-birth (like Jesus).
God bless
Ed J
Born of water (Natural birth)
Born of Spirit (Born Again)
Hi ED,
There are no scriptures to support being born of water = natural birth.
Not a strong foundation.
Hi Nick,We have been through this before, “context” is what tells us what it means.
I have highlighted for you where the answer is located.“Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be
(1)born of water and (2)of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
(1)That which is born of the flesh is flesh; (2)and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” (John 3:5-6)I hope you will not ask me this again in a week or two.
Born of water does NOT mean water baptized.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2014,06:19) Hi ED,
If we must be born of water and it means natural birth who is not ?
God does not waste words
AngelsHi ED,
What is born of flesh is flesh.No mention of any birth of water.
Angels are not heirs of the salvation so it cannot relate to them
Heb 1
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?Hi Nick,
“born of water” is in the preceding sentence.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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