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Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 09 2008,07:50) I've been here long enough to figure out your jokes are just insults with smileys attached. You look down on Mandy because she does not believe as you do. Don't worry, its a Christian trait and I would not expect anything different.
You have a warped mind. You want to trade insults go back where you belong.
Hey Mandy,
Glad all is going well! Take it easy and be careful, there are all sorts of beliefs flying around here lately
. Prayer and study are the way to go.Tow You are impossible. I know Ken too, and he was joking. You on the other hand are nothing but insulting to others. Shame on you.
Peace and Love Mrs.
Quote (IM4Truth @ Jan. 08 2008,15:18) Tow You are impossible. I know Ken too, and he was joking. You on the other hand are nothing but insulting to others. Shame on you. Peace and Love Mrs.
I lurked on here for some time before I first posted. You used to act like Ken was insulting you all the time. Now you take his side because you don't like me. That's OK, I understand.Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 09 2008,08:52) Quote (IM4Truth @ Jan. 08 2008,15:18) Tow You are impossible. I know Ken too, and he was joking. You on the other hand are nothing but insulting to others. Shame on you. Peace and Love Mrs.
I lurked on here for some time before I first posted. You used to act like Ken was insulting you all the time. Now you take his side because you don't like me. That's OK, I understand.
In some respect you are right. Anyone who is born again will always side with another born again Against An Antichrist.But then you know nothing of being born of the SPIRIT.
You keep trying to conquer and DIVIDE with for the most Part with no success. Perhaps that's why the attack…because Mandy IS BACK!
Good for her.
I too welcome you back Mandy. And you are right, much of what I post is deflected and avoided, but rarely ever refuted. That is because once you study Tanakh, you see the many holes in the GT. Sadly, the GT was a hack job of the life of Jesus with the writers throwing in prophecies that weren't even prophecies to try to legitimatize Jesus dying before he ever fulfilled a real prophecy. And now we're to accept that he will be the one to return and fulfill all of the unfufilled Jewish prophecies.
So its like this: Christians give prophecies as fulfillment to prophecies. That's similar to paying someone with an IOU. Wimpy used to say “I gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today” and he never paid. Wimpy took his cue from the GT.
Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 09 2008,09:37) Good for her. I too welcome you back Mandy. And you are right, much of what I post is deflected and avoided, but rarely ever refuted. That is because once you study Tanakh, you see the many holes in the GT. Sadly, the GT was a hack job of the life of Jesus with the writers throwing in prophecies that weren't even prophecies to try to legitimatize Jesus dying before he ever fulfilled a real prophecy. And now we're to accept that he will be the one to return and fulfill all of the unfufilled Jewish prophecies.
So its like this: Christians give prophecies as fulfillment to prophecies. That's similar to paying someone with an IOU. Wimpy used to say “I gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today” and he never paid. Wimpy took his cue from the GT.
NO! It's because you haven't been born again!There are a LOT of “religious” writings out there and by MANY scholars who don't agree. That's why you need the SPIRIT!
I believe that's why the “book” is written that way. Intellectually the bible can be made to say “ANYTHING”!
But what matters is the Keeping of God's commandments and the testimony of Jesus!
Again YOU DON'T KNOW TOW!
Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 09 2008,09:11) Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 09 2008,08:52) Quote (IM4Truth @ Jan. 08 2008,15:18) Tow You are impossible. I know Ken too, and he was joking. You on the other hand are nothing but insulting to others. Shame on you. Peace and Love Mrs.
I lurked on here for some time before I first posted. You used to act like Ken was insulting you all the time. Now you take his side because you don't like me. That's OK, I understand.
In some respect you are right. Anyone who is born again will always side with another born again Against An Antichrist.But then you know nothing of being born of the SPIRIT.
You keep trying to conquer and DIVIDE with for the most Part with no success. Perhaps that's why the attack…because Mandy IS BACK!
So when the aliens are attacking Earth (no I don't really believe that will happen!), then if one of them says I come in the name of Jesus and have been reborn to serve him, you will join them against the several billion humans who do not say that? This may seem a ridiculous thing to say but is is exactly the kind of thing that went on and still goes on in Northern Ireland and of course the Middle East.You make your religious beliefs into an artificial barrier, and in my opinion one based on nothing at all.
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Jan. 09 2008,10:21) Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 09 2008,09:11) Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 09 2008,08:52) Quote (IM4Truth @ Jan. 08 2008,15:18) Tow You are impossible. I know Ken too, and he was joking. You on the other hand are nothing but insulting to others. Shame on you. Peace and Love Mrs.
I lurked on here for some time before I first posted. You used to act like Ken was insulting you all the time. Now you take his side because you don't like me. That's OK, I understand.
In some respect you are right. Anyone who is born again will always side with another born again Against An Antichrist.But then you know nothing of being born of the SPIRIT.
You keep trying to conquer and DIVIDE with for the most Part with no success. Perhaps that's why the attack…because Mandy IS BACK!
So when the aliens are attacking Earth (no I don't really believe that will happen!), then if one of them says I come in the name of Jesus and have been reborn to serve him, you will join them against the several billion humans who do not say that? This may seem a ridiculous thing to say but is is exactly the kind of thing that went on and still goes on in Northern Ireland and of course the Middle East.You make your religious beliefs into an artificial barrier, and in my opinion one based on nothing at all.
Stuart
I'm glad you said in YOUR opinion. Humm first Tow then you! A switch up!
Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 09 2008,08:02) Hey Mandy, Glad all is going well! Take it easy and be careful, there are all sorts of beliefs flying around here lately
. Prayer and study are the way to go.
Hey Kejonn,Thanks for the warning. To be perfectly honest with you, I'm really not afraid anymore of others beliefs. I used to be. I used to be afraid of a lot of things. Now I just understand that there are a lot of different ways to interpret the Bible, the Universe, and life in general. There is really no pat answer for anything it seems. Anything and everything can be called into question.
These days I am holding onto my theology lightly. It has changed so drastically in the last 4 years – I'm wondering what will change next? What will I be convinced of next? I hate feeling flighty or fickle – it's not my character. However, that is exactly what I am right now. I could go either way. I think that Stu speaks very soundly on many topics. His arguments with others have shown me that he has quite a bit of truth. Same goes for our favorite “antichrist” around here, aka, Tow.
Everyone: I guess I should say up front that most folks should not take what I say as the gospel. Some may read that sentence and be tempted to feel sorry for me. Don't. There is nothing wrong with searching. I just want to be honest and say that I am not bringing a teaching, nor am I aiming to witness and win anyone to the faith. I am searching and questioning my own faith. Therefore, let me not put a stumbling block in anyone's path.
I will listen to Stu and Tow just as I listen to others. I will be open to all. So please don't be offended if I do not join a certain “camp” here on HeavenNet. I consider everyone my brother and I am the judge of no man. I have no interest in trying to align anyone's beliefs with my own, nor do I want to be corralled into someones belief system. I want to be free to search and find truth. “Truth” is different for everyone, as this site has proved over and over again/page by page.
As for the Spirit leading me in these matters, well, I'm questioning that as well. Be worried for me if you wish, pray for me if you wish, I will be grateful for it all. But in the end, I will still be searching for God…….wherever I may find him.
Love to all,
MandyHi Mandy! I am so excited and relieved to hear that you are doing much better and that everything seems to be very promising. I have been out of town a lot the last three weeks and am also looking forward to viewing more topics and posting more. I completely understand where you are in your faith right now, and I really hope that no one gives you a hard time. You love God and desire the truth, and that's all that counts in my book. Looking forward to discussing stuff with you.
Love to you and your family, Jodi
Quote (Towshab @ Jan. 09 2008,07:50) You look down on Mandy because she does not believe as you do. Don't worry, its a Christian trait and I would not expect anything different.
Your statement seems to have the stench of a generalization to me. People of all faiths look down on people that don't believe as they do. Luckily not everyone and definitely not every Christian. You should be open-minded enough to see that. In any case, I don't think that Kenrch meant anything insulting by his statement.Glad you're physically well Mandy, it really is good to see you here again. I'm a bit worried about your spiritual welllbeing though…..
Quote (Mandy @ Jan. 09 2008,16:07) “Truth” is different for everyone, as this site has proved over and over again/page by page.
Mandy, that's just not true (excuse the pun). “Truth” is objective, not subjective. It is exclusive by it's very nature.The law of noncontradiction (also called the law of contradiction) states, in the words of Aristotle, that “one cannot say of something that it is and that it is not in the same respect and at the same time”.
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradictionThe Bible is either the word of God, or it isn't. Both cannot be true at the same time.
Yeshua is either the Messiah, or He isn't. Both statements cannot be true.
Yeshua is either the Son of God, or He isn't. Both cannot be true….
On these issues some members here are right, and some are not.
Quote (kenrch @ Jan. 09 2008,07:11) SO YOU HAVE DECIDED TO COME CRAWLING BACK?!!!!
I'LL THINK ABOUT IT? OK! WELCOME BACK!
Quite obviously a joke Towshad. Sheesh…did you ever lose the plot over this post. Kenrch is just not the type of guy to pay someone out in a really nasty way when they have just returned from a health scare.Hi Paul – good to see you too!
Yes, there are quite a few who are “worried” about me. I appreciate your concern (really I do). However, the time has come for me to start asking the hard questions. I really want the answers….whatever they turn out to be.
I have faith that God exists. I've had too many encounters with him to deny this. However, everything else is up for grabs right now. I'm not certain that I can trust the bible, and I am certainly not secure enough in any denominational teaching to fill out an application for membership anytime soon.
I tend to believe that if the Spirit is leading everyone who calls themselves a Christian, we would all be going in the same direction – would we not? As it is we are so divided. One man's “truth” is another man's “harlot”.
Who do you believe?
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