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  • #374391
    NickHassan
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 21 2014,12:47)
    I do.  Christ is very happy when I use my God-given reasoning, logic, and common sense.

    In fact, I had planned on leaving you with only the Daniel verse in that last post.  Then, when posting that verse, I was inexplicably led to the other two verses.  I had to go back and change “this verse” to “these verses”.  :)

    Christ is indeed with me, Nick.


    Hi MB,
    Really?
    He prefers your own ideas over his truth?

    #374523
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 21 2014,09:08)
    Mike

    this I like it shows that the spirit is in you , :)


    Thanks Pierre. :)

    #374524
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2014,13:22)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 21 2014,12:47)
    I do.  Christ is very happy when I use my God-given reasoning, logic, and common sense.

    In fact, I had planned on leaving you with only the Daniel verse in that last post.  Then, when posting that verse, I was inexplicably led to the other two verses.  I had to go back and change “this verse” to “these verses”.  :)

    Christ is indeed with me, Nick.


    Hi MB,
    Really?
    He prefers your own ideas over his truth?


    My point was that it WASN'T “my idea” to add those other two verses, Nick. I was LED to those verses by the Spirit of God.

    But yes, God enjoys it when I use the awesome brain He created in me to come to His truth.

    #374546
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    You constantly boast of your brain?
    Lift your sights to the mind of Christ

    #374549
    mikeboll64
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    Not just “my brain”, Nick. I constantly boast of the awesome brain God created in each and every human being.

    He gave us that extremely powerful tool so that we could USE IT.

    #374555
    kerwin
    Participant

    Mike,

    I like the way you boast of God's workmanship.

    #374572
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    That is better

    #374585
    mikeboll64
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    Thanks Kerwin.

    #374736
    Wakeup
    Participant

    That lump of mushy matter,called brain is flesh.
    We can not depend on it,because it can be piloted by the devil.This is how many men have crashed seeking knowledge.
    Refusing the truth of the Holy spirit and label it as nonsense and trash.

    wakeup.

    #374753
    kerwin
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 24 2014,23:15)
    That lump of mushy matter,called brain is flesh.
    We can not depend on it,because it can be piloted by the devil.This is how many men have crashed seeking knowledge.
    Refusing the truth of the Holy spirit and label it as nonsense and trash.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    God created the flesh and said it and the rest of each man is a very good creation. Your answer seems to disagree with him.

    The fact that the brain can be piloted by Satan does not justify condemning all actions of the brain because it can also be piloted by God and you condemnation falls on him as well.

    #374758
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    The flesh has no future.
    The new creation is not of flesh.

    #374786
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Speaking of logic:

    How can one preach God and Jesus if one does not know
    God and Jesus?
    Where is the logic in that?
    Jesus said no one knows the Son and the Father.

    Unless he preaches another Jesus and another God.
    The Jesus and God of his own imagenation.
    The creation of the mind;ones own logic.
    Each his own created Jesus and God.

    Mans own logic:

    1.God is God,Jesus is God;the Holy Spirit is God.
    This is one logic.
    2.God is almighty,and Jesus is A God,a lesser god.
    The lesser god was created in the beginning by God.
    This is an another mans logic.
    3.God's name is only Jehovah,and Michael the angel is Jesus.
    This is another mans logic.
    4.Jesus is of glorified flesh;as the angels are of
    glorified,flesh.
    Yet Jesus is also God. (God is of glorified flesh)?
    This is another mans logic.
    5.To make it more mysterious.
    Jesus is of the substance of God; and he is flesh.
    He appeared in the flesh;that makes him flesh
    That is another mans logic.

    Which one of those have been revealed by the HS?
    NONE OF THOSE.

    I say no one knows Jesus and the Father,but He to whom the Son will reveal Him.

    wakeup.

    #374789
    terraricca
    Participant

    wup

    only # 2 is correct and according to scriptures just as Mike told you in another topic

    #374804
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2014,01:55)
    Hi KW,
    The flesh has no future.
    The new creation is not of flesh.


    Nick,

    That contradicts Scripture for Jesus teaches us “except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved”.

    Why do you instead disagree and say flesh will not be saved no matter what?

    #374805
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    The new creation is of a self that is like God in true righteousness and holiness.

    #374807
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 25 2014,11:02)
    wup

    only # 2 is correct and according to scriptures just as Mike told you in another topic


    T.

    You say according to scriptures,but the interpretation is not according to the teachings of the HS.
    The words had to be changed to get to that conclusion.
    John said:And the Word was with God, and the Word was God. A big stumbling block for the human mind with human logic till today.

    wakeup.

    #374808
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2014,15:25)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2014,01:55)
    Hi KW,
    The flesh has no future.
    The new creation is not of flesh.


    Nick,

    That contradicts Scripture for Jesus teaches us “except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved”.  

    Why do you instead disagree and say flesh will not be saved no matter what?


    Hi KW,
    “No flesh would be saved “is about surviving the tribulation and has nothing to do with eternal salvation

    #374813
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2014,05:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 24 2014,23:15)
    That lump of mushy matter,called brain is flesh.
    We can not depend on it,because it can be piloted by the devil.This is how many men have crashed seeking knowledge.
    Refusing the truth of the Holy spirit and label it as nonsense and trash.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    God created the flesh and said it and the rest of each man is a very good creation.  Your answer seems to disagree with him.

    The fact that the brain can be piloted by Satan does not justify condemning all actions of the brain because it can also be piloted by God and you condemnation falls on him as well.


    I said: *CAN BE PILOTED*,by the devil.
    Can also be piloted by the HS.
    Him we should have as pilot,only then all will speak of one accord. But I can not see this happening.
    Each have his own pilot.Each go their own way.
    Many ways; and all leads to Rome.

    Only one way leads to eternal life,and that way is narrow
    and hard to fly through.Therefore not very popular.

    So all have taken the easy way;the broad way.
    Have the cake and eat it too;knowing that this is not possible,but the wine of doctrine has made them drunken.
    Zigzagging in flight to Rome,which will be destroyed.

    wakeup.

    #374827
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2014,10:54)

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 25 2014,15:25)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2014,01:55)
    Hi KW,
    The flesh has no future.
    The new creation is not of flesh.


    Nick,

    That contradicts Scripture for Jesus teaches us “except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved”.  

    Why do you instead disagree and say flesh will not be saved no matter what?


    Hi KW,
    “No flesh would be saved “is about surviving the tribulation and has nothing to do with eternal salvation


    Nick,

    I was wondering what attempt at logical reasoning you would use in an attempt to resolve that apparent conflict in your teachings. There is one main question is your conclusion true. If your reasoning is broken it is not the reasoning of God as his is not broken.

    Matthew 24:29-34
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
    32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    I have to do something before I can finish this.

    #374833
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Matthew 24:21-22
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

    I can see where you are coming but immediately after those day Jesus will come in the clouds and the trump shall sound the righteous dead will be resurrected and the righteous will change and both together will meet him in the clouds.

    So what purpose was there in saving flesh if flesh will immediately after it is saved be no more?

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