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  • #374021
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,17:40)
    Hi MB,
    Do you not believe the promises of God?
    acts 2.38-39


    Do YOU believe the promises, Nick? If so, how are you able to UNDERSTAND that which you believe?

    Are you allowed to believe things all by yourself, Nick? Doesn't that require knowledge of the things you choose to believe? Doesn't it require understanding, and logic, and common sense to know what it is you will believe, and what it is you won't believe?

    Perhaps the Spirit believes the promises for you, since you are unable to use your own God-given mental capacities?

    #374028
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    To know God and His son is more than belief, more than understanding.

    #374046
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    And how did you come to know them, Nick?

    #374047
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    In the Spirit.

    #374084
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2014,01:34)
    Hi KW,
    Only the Spirit can test the spirits.


    Nick,

    I agree with that but I have some doubts about your interpretation of “discerning the spirits” or what those words actually mean as they are too vague.

    #374094
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    Study the scriptures
    Jn8.8-9
    Mt 9.4
    Mt 23.27f
    Mk 2.8
    Mk5.1-20
    Lk 5.22
    acts 5.3
    1 cor 12.10
    etc

    #374095
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 19 2014,21:27)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2014,01:34)
    Hi KW,
    Only the Spirit can test the spirits.


    Nick,

    I agree with that but I have some doubts about your interpretation of “discerning the spirits” or what those words actually mean as they are too vague.


    hi K

    that is what Nick does he is so vague that what he is saying end up of no value ,

    all claim the spirit but what spirit ??? of cause all say God's spirit or Christ spirit ;this is strange because they do not believe the scriptures and what God and his son have said ,so what spirit do they use to be guided ??? their own i would say

    #374101
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    It is not what anyone here says but what scripture teaches.
    Call no man rabbi

    #374103
    david
    Participant

    Yes nick,
    You can take a horse to water, but can you hamstring him? Therefore, repent of your muslim-ish ways, accept God, and be healed.

    This is known as the confuse and run away technique. Good bye.

    #374104
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Human logic applied to scripture shows fruit in the divided false church

    #374105
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Jesus Christ manifested all the powers and gifts shown in 1 Cor 12
    The Spirit shares these gifts with the brothers

    #374106
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2014,21:24)
    Hi MB,
    In the Spirit.


    So this was when? At birth? Before you could read? Before a single scripture was read to you?

    Explain how you came to know God and Jesus without using your own mind at all.

    #374107
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (david @ Mar. 19 2014,14:54)
    Yes nick,
    You can take a horse to water, but can you hamstring him?  Therefore, repent of your muslim-ish ways, accept God, and be healed.

    This is known as the confuse and run away technique.  Good bye.


    You hit the nail on the head, David. :D

    #374122
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    No 35 years ago when I was baptised in water and the Spirit.
    God had led me to realise the wondrous beauty and harmony of His Word and the words of men became as ashes in my mouth

    #374161
    david
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2014,09:49)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 19 2014,14:54)
    Yes nick,
    You can take a horse to water, but can you hamstring him?  Therefore, repent of your muslim-ish ways, accept God, and be healed.

    This is known as the confuse and run away technique.  Good bye.


    You hit the nail on the head, David.    :D


    It took ten years to master that impression. I did nail it didn't I?

    #374163
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    And how did you learn about God and Jesus BEFORE you were baptized? Surely you must have knew something about scripture – or you wouldn't have chosen to be baptized, right?

    By what means did you learn that FIRST stuff – BEFORE the baptism?

    #374164
    david
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2014,08:29)
    Hi,
    Human logic applied to scripture shows fruit in the divided false church


    Yes nick,

    But logic is as logic does. Embrace the spirit.

    #374165
    david
    Participant

    Rather than discussing logic as a whole (which I'm sure encompasses all sorts on non-logic) perhaps it makes sense to look at tiny bits of what people call logic to see if they are actually logic or not.

    #374170
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Yes God led me to love his Word.
    All is grace

    #374171
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    God does the oddest things.

    When I was at a catholic school age 14 one of the teachers for religious instruction read to us the book of Acts
    I was hooked

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