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- March 31, 2008 at 12:20 am#85436chosenoneParticipant
For those dedicated to finding the truth in scripture.
Circumcision Scriptures
Concerning the Kingdom of God, in Fulfillment of the Hebrew ScripturesMATTHEW PRESENTS THE KING
Say to the daughter of Zion, “Lo! Your King…”
– Matthew 21:5SENT TO ISRAEL
“I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
– Matthew 15:24MARK PRESENTS THE SERVANT
“The Son of Mankind came, not to be served, but to serve…”
– Mark 10:45WHO SERVED ISRAEL
“Hear, Israel! the Lord our God is one Lord.”
– Mark 12:29LUKE PRESENTS THE PERFECT MAN
“Really, this Man was just.”
– Luke 23:47THE GLORY OF ISRAEL
“The Glory of Thy people Israel.”
– Luke 2:32JOHN PRESENTS THE SON OF GOD
“He came out from God, and is going away to God.”
– John 13:3MANIFESTED TO ISRAEL
“that He may be manifested to Israel…”
– John 1:31ACTS PRESENTS THE TRANSITION
“To you (the Jews) first was it necessary that the word of God be spoken. Yet since … you are thrusting it away … lo! we are turning to the nations.”
-Acts 13:46HEBREWS – A NEW COVENANT WITH ISRAEL
“Lo! the days are coming,” the Lord is saying, “And I shall be concluding with the house of Israel and with the house
of Judah a new covenant.”
– Hebrews 8:8JAMES – SALVATION BY WORKS
The faith cannot save him.
– James 2:14APPLICABLE TO THE TWELVE TRIBES
James … to the twelve tribes in the dispersion.
– James 1:1PETER'S PROMISES TO THE CHOSEN RACE
Yet you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood,
a holy nation…
– 1 Peter 2:9JOHN STRESSES THE LAW
And in this we know that we know Him, if we should be keeping His precepts.
– 1 John 2:3TO THOSE WHO CAME OUT
they came out for the sake of the Name, getting nothing from those of the nations.
– 3 John 7JUDE – A REMINDER TO THOSE ONCE AWARE
to remind you, you who once are aware of all, that the Lord, when saving the people out of the land of Egypt, secondly destroys those who believe not.
– Jude 5REVELATION – JEWISH PROMISES FULFILLED
“I have granted to those… (who are saying that they themselves are Jews, and are not, but are lying) Lo! I shall be making them that they will be arriving and worshipping before your feet, and they may know that I love you.”
– Revelation 3:9Uncircumcision Scriptures
Concerning the Body of Christ, The Mystery Hidden in Past AgesPaul Presents Christ to the Nations
“But, on the contrary, perceiving that I have been entrusted with the evangel of the Uncircumcision, according as Peter of the Circumcision … James and Cephas and John … give to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we, indeed, are to be for the nations, yet they for the Circumcision.”
– Galatians 2:7-9 –The Evangel for Today
“To me, less than the least of all saints, was granted this grace: to bring the evangel of the untraceable riches of Christ to the nations, and to enlighten all as to what is the administration of the secret, which has been concealed from the eons in God.”
– Ephesians 3:8-9 –ROMANS-JUSTIFICATION, CONCILIATION
through Whom we obtained grace and apostleship for faith-obedience among all the nations…- Romans 1:5But now, apart from law, a righteousness of God is manifest…- Romans 3:21
Being justified gratuitously in His grace…- Romans 3:24
seeing that out of him, and through Him and for Him is all…- Romans 11:36
their (Israel's) casting away is the conciliation of the world…- Romans 11:15
God locks up all together all in stubbornness, that He should be merciful to all.
– Romans 11:321 CORINTHIANS – THE BODY OF CHRIST
but we are speaking God's wisdom in a secret, which has been concealed, which God designates before the eons for our glory …
– 1 Corinthians 2:7Now you are the body of Christ, and members of a part, whom also God, indeed, placed in the ecclesia,
– 1 Corinthians 12:27For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified. … that God may be All in all.- 1 Corinthians 15:22,28
2 CORINTHIANS – A NEW CREATION
So that, if anyone is in Christ, there is a new creation: the primitive passed by. Lo! there has become new!- 2 Corinthians 5:17Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation, how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.
– 2 Corinthians 5:18-19GALATIANS – FAITH, NOT WORKS OF LAW
I am marvelling that thus, swiftly, you are transferred, from that which calls you in the grace of Christ, to a different evangel, which is not another, except it be that some who are disturbing you, want to distort the evangel of Christ.- Galatians 1:6-7we also believe in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by the faith of Christ; and not by works of law; seeing that by works of law shall no flesh at all be justified.
– Galatians 2:16did you get the spirit by works of law or by the hearing of faith…?
– Galatians 3:5For whoever are of works of law are under a curse,
– Galatians 3:10EPHESIANS – SPIRITUAL BLESSINGS
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Who blesses us with every spiritual blessing among the celestials…
– Ephesians 1:3Wherefore, remember that once you, the nations in flesh … were, in that era, apart from Christ, being alienated from the citizen- ship of Israel, and guests of the promise covenants, having no expectation, and without God in the world.
– Ephesians 2:11-12Yet now, in Christ Jesus, you, who once are far off, are become near by the blood of Christ.
– Ephesians 2:13On this behalf I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you, the nations — since you surely hear of the administration of the grace of God that is given to me for you, for by revelation the secret is made known to me: in spirit the nations are to be joint enjoyers of an allotment, and joint partakers of the promise
– Ephesians 3:1-6PHILIPPIANS – OUR REALM IN THE HEAVENS
For our realm is inherent in the heavens, – Philippians 3:20that in the name of Jesus every knee should be bowing, celestial and terrestrial and subterranean, and every tongue should be acclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord, for the glory of God, the Father.
– Philippians 2:10-11COLOSSIANS – CHRIST THE HEAD
And He is the Head of the body, the ecclesia, … and through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens.
– Colossians 1:18-20which is granted to me for you, to complete the word of God–
– Colossians 1:251 THESSALONIANS – MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR
for the Lord Himself will be descending from heaven with a shout of command … and the dead in Christ shall be rising first. Thereupon we, the living … shall at the same time be snatched away together with them in clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And thus shall we always be together with the Lord.
– 1 Thessalonians 4:162 THESSALONIANS – BE NOT QUICKLY SHAKEN
be not quickly shaken from your mind, nor yet be alarmed, either through spirit, or through word, or through an epistle as through us, as that the day of the Lord is present. … should not the apostasy be coming first …?
– 2 Thessalonians 2:2-31 TIMOTHY – SAVIOUR OF ALL
For there is one God, and one Mediator of God and mankind, a Man, Christ Jesus, Who is giving Himself a correspondent Ransom for all … for which I was appointed a herald and an apostle … a teacher
of the nations in knowledge and truth.
– 1 Timothy 2:5-7Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching.
– 1 Timothy 4:9-112 TIMOTHY – WHO SAVES US AND CALLS US
in accord with the power of God, Who saves us and calls us with a holy calling, not in accord with our acts, but in accord with His own purpose and the grace which is given to us in Christ Jesus before times eonian, 10 yet now is being manifested through … the evangel of which I was appointed a herald and an apostle and a teacher of the nations.
– 2 Timothy 1:8-11TITUS- SAVED ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY
Yet when the kindness and fondness for humanity of our Saviour, God, made its advent, not for works which are wrought in righteous- ness which we do, but according to His mercy, He saves us …- Titus 3:4-5PHILEMON – THE CONDUCT OF GRACE
I am thanking my God always, … that the fellow- ship of your faith may be- come operative in the reali- zation of every good thing which is in us for Christ Jesus … seeing that the compassions of the saints are soothed through you, brother. – Philemon 6Copyright © Concordant Publishing Concern
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March 31, 2008 at 12:44 am#85437NickHassanParticipantHi CO,
Of course you need to discern between those in Christ and the unsaved heathen nations.
The heathens have no inheritance in Christ.They are vessels of wrath fitted for destruction while those in Christ find mercy
Rom9
22What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:23And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
March 31, 2008 at 12:55 am#85443chosenoneParticipantStudy to “Correctly cut the word of truth”.
Blessings.
March 31, 2008 at 12:59 am#85444NickHassanParticipantHi CO,
Indeed.
Correctly cutting the word of truth first demands context.
Applying verses to the unsaved that do not belong to them could cause them not to repent.The blessings of Christ arte not made to any outside of the new covenant of circumcision.
Col2 [to the saints]
8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
March 31, 2008 at 1:03 am#85448chosenoneParticipantHi Nick,
I think that we must agree to disagree, this discussion is going nowhere. We will know the truth at the consummation. See you then…we will all be there.Blessings.
March 31, 2008 at 1:07 am#85449NickHassanParticipantHi CO,
I hope you find the truth.
Making assumptions is unhelpful.March 31, 2008 at 1:20 am#85452chosenoneParticipantNick, my final post on this subject, no assumptions, just scriptures.
Blessings.
March 31, 2008 at 1:30 am#85455NickHassanParticipantHi CO,
Yes scripture is often misused.October 5, 2008 at 6:04 am#109774NickHassanParticipantHi,
There are teachings about the OT law given by Jesus to the Jews.
Gentiles have never been under the OT law so they do not apply to us.But Jesus also preached and taught a great deal about the kingdom of God and these do apply to all who are invited into the body of Christ to be one with each other, with him and with God.
October 17, 2008 at 4:27 am#110567ShaniaParticipantI've heard many christians say, “we are not under law, but under grace.” This, in itself, is a true statement. The problem comes when believers accept the idea that they can do anything and God winks at their sin and they are in the kingdom because they said a few magic words. All I have to say to this is that it is harder [for the flesh] to walk in the Spirit than it is for it to walk in legalism… Actually it is impossible for flesh to walk in the spirit, but the pharisees perfected legalism in their flesh. Are they in the kingdom?!
Here is what I'm talking about:
Matt 5:21-22
21 “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment.
NIVMatt 5:27-29
27 “You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
NIVMatt 5:43-45
43 “You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I tell you : Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.
NIVMatt 5:47-48
48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
NIVThe law dealt with the actions of the people.. Jesus is dealing with the motive of their heart… If the root is rotten, the whole tree is rotten…
Love sums up the law.. sin is selfishness… selfishness is opposite of love. It is a LOT harder to have self-sacrificial, all-consuming love than to follow some rules… If the love is there, you don't have to worry about following the law. You will fulfill the law.
October 17, 2008 at 4:28 am#110568ShaniaParticipantI do not believe that Israel is under law anymore.. If they are followers of Messiah, they are under the Spirit.
October 20, 2008 at 10:54 pm#110787GeneBalthropParticipantChosenone ……that publication you posted As Jodi would say Nailed it. It's amazing how some want to argue with clear cut scriptures. Everyone needs to simply read it and meditate on it and except it. Good post
Love and peace brother…………….gene
October 21, 2008 at 12:58 am#110791NickHassanParticipantHi,
There is one body made up of those who were Jews and gentiles.
The same gospel was preached to both groups, the chosen people and the strangers.Eph2
11Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Now by the election and transforming grace of God they are one.
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,2Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1Peter 1
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,2Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Now that the gentiles are grafted into the olive of true Israel they are among the chosen people.
1Peter2
4To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,5Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
7Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
10Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Christ is not divided
1 Corinthians 1:13
Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?October 21, 2008 at 4:11 pm#110817GeneBalthropParticipantShania……….Grace (God's influencing on the heart) is never against the law, it's the way to fulfill the law. No true Christian would every think He has a license to break God's laws because he is under GRACE. IMO
Love and peace to you and yours…………..gene
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