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Hey All,
Keith has started a thread where he and his fellow "Jesus is God" believers can make a list of what they consider "Jesus is NOT God" fallacies.
He has asked for it not to be a debate thread, but a spot for those who believe as he does to pool their info together where it can be used as an easily accessible reference guide of sorts.
That is all good and fine, as far as I'm concerned. But should he be able to bring our names into his thread when we are not allowed to go into that same thread to defend ourselves?
Anybody on this site can paste a quote of someone else out of context, put a slant on that quote, and make it seem like the one quoted is a buffoon.
I've suggested that instead of making this personal, (since those of us who KNOW Jesus is NOT God Almighty cannot post in his thread), he should leave our personal names out of it. He could easily try to refute a point one of us made by saying, "SOME PEOPLE SAY………….blah, blah, blah………" or "ONE PERSON HERE SAID………….blah, blah, blah………".
It is my stand that if Keith and company want to bring me PERSONALLY into his thread by quoting me, then they have done exactly what they set out to do: BROUGHT ME INTO THEIR THREAD. And once THEY have brought me into it, I'm sticking around until the issue they've slanted is resolved.
What do you all think?
Should these guys be able to mention us personally, (and possibly SLANT something we've said to make us sound like idiots), in a thread where we are not allowed to post and defend ourselves? YES or NO above, please.
peace,
mikeMike
You can't even create a poll in the right thread and then you put on like you know how to moderate a thread.
WJ
Hi All
Mikes question in this poll is misleading. No one is saying that one should slant someones words or misrepresent them. If that happens then it can be reported to a moderator as always, and if the moderator agrees the post can be deleted or the moderator can ask for the one who posted it to rescind their points that are misleading.
It is simple. If you start violating the wishes of the creator of a thread then in essence you are breaking the forum rules.
I can't vote Yes on this thread because of Mikes loaded question that insinuates I want a free ticket to misrepresent someone. But my vote is still a "Yes" you should not be able to post in a thread against the thread creators wishes, and if it violates forum rules then that is another issue which would be handled accordingly!
I am going to vote "yes" to part of Mikes question just so I can see the results.
Even the owner of this forum, t8 respected this rule and posted a rebutal of my opening post in Davids thread
when I created my thread.I created the thread to show what I believe was t8s falacy. Once again t8 will make the final decsision on this and I will honor it.
WJ
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 31 2011,08:03) Hey All, Keith has started a thread where he and his fellow "Jesus is God" believers can make a list of what they consider "Jesus is NOT God" fallacies.
He has asked for it not to be a debate thread, but a spot for those who believe as he does to pool their info together where it can be used as an easily accessible reference guide of sorts.
That is all good and fine, as far as I'm concerned. But should he be able to bring our names into his thread when we are not allowed to go into that same thread to defend ourselves?
Anybody on this site can paste a quote of someone else out of context, put a slant on that quote, and make it seem like the one quoted is a buffoon.
I've suggested that instead of making this personal, (since those of us who KNOW Jesus is NOT God Almighty cannot post in his thread), he should leave our personal names out of it. He could easily try to refute a point one of us made by saying, "SOME PEOPLE SAY………….blah, blah, blah………" or "ONE PERSON HERE SAID………….blah, blah, blah………".
It is my stand that if Keith and company want to bring me PERSONALLY into his thread by quoting me, then they have done exactly what they set out to do: BROUGHT ME INTO THEIR THREAD. And once THEY have brought me into it, I'm sticking around until the issue they've slanted is resolved.
What do you all think?
Should these guys be able to mention us personally, (and possibly SLANT something we've said to make us sound like idiots), in a thread where we are not allowed to post and defend ourselves? YES or NO above, please.
peace,
mike
Hi Mike,You actually started the idea.
You did the same thing in …MikeBoll64 VS. 'The Phantom'!With regards to Theology, I do NOT favor censorship of any kind.
Mentioning others names should be considered a personal invite!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2011,15:23) Mike You can't even create a poll in the right thread and then you put on like you know how to moderate a thread.
WJ
Look again Keith. One can create a poll in any category. And this is the category t8 suggested for ironing out this discrepancy. We ARE voting on the politics of the believer's section, are we not? Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2011,16:06) If that happens then it can be reported to a moderator as always, and if the moderator agrees the post can be deleted or the moderator can ask for the one who posted it to rescind their points that are misleading. It is simple.
Really Keith? Then YOU should try being a mod for a while and see for yourself all the pm's and red tape and complaints we deal with on a daily basis.What you call "simple" requires time out of my life to read the report itself, the reported post, AND the surrounding posts in that thread to gain an idea of the context.
Then I have to make a "ruling", just so someone like you can argue with me for days about that ruling. And then when I tell you to rescind the slant you put on, let's say, Pierre's words, I have to deal with many more posts from you over a period of days or weeks because you're going to argue until the cows come home that you did nothing wrong. And then Jack will jump in just to be AGAINST me at all costs – whether or not he even agrees with you – and I have to spend MORE time dealing with his crap. And then everyone else is jumping in with their two cents and it always seems I can't win for losing.
So……………….does that STILL sound "simple" to you? Would it seem as "simple" if YOU were the one who had to deal with all that? Or would it maybe seem more "simple" if you guys just kept your posts anonymous to avoid all this extra time and effort for the moderators?
Keith, I can't please everybody all the time.
I made a judgment in your thread. I thought I was helping you out. And I only asked one thing in return from you. Keith, should I just IGNORE Pierre and Ed, who like me, figure if you bring us up, we're invited to the party?
I won't do it, man. You are not the ONLY member here whose feelings I have to consider.
peace and love to you,
mikeQuote (Ed J @ July 30 2011,17:49) Hi Mike, You actually started the idea.
You did the same thing in …MikeBoll64 VS. 'The Phantom'!Mentioning others names should be considered a personal invite!
What? It's not MY fault that Martian never responds in our debate, is it?
I agree with your second statement. Thanks for your vote/input in this matter, Ed.
peace and love,
mikeI am amazed at all the complaints you get Mike. It has taken me a few minutes to accept this. I would have never thought of such with ones on this board.
So, compromise, anyone making statement that jesus is god can only post in WJ's create thread (anti jesus, fallacies), and all agree that when your name is mentioned, not to post in WJ's thread. It may relieve some of the complaints you get, for the jesus is god statements would be limited to one thread, and much easier for the mods to monitor.
Quote (princess @ July 31 2011,06:46) So, compromise, anyone making statement that jesus is god can only post in WJ's create thread……….
How's that work for ya, Keith?
You guys are ONLY allowed to post your "Jesus is God" fallacies in that ONE thread forever, and you can mention any of us you want. Deal? Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 31 2011,10:22) Quote (princess @ July 31 2011,06:46) So, compromise, anyone making statement that jesus is god can only post in WJ's create thread……….
How's that work for ya, Keith? You guys are ONLY allowed to post your "Jesus is God" fallacies in that ONE thread forever, and you can mention any of us you want. Deal?
MikeWould that be what you want? That the Trintarians could not discuss scripture with anyone in any thread but the "Jesus is God Falcies" thread and you or anyone else could not post there?
WJ
Mike
see no decision from WJ always you say ,not me ,I think he should accepted ,this would be a good place to them to grow in there own believe ,
and refine in their " Jesus is God Falcies"
Well, at least they would be safer there Pierre. They wouldn't have to put up with you and Irene and t8 and me constantly blasting that comically flawed, man-made doctrine to shreds.
Mike and T,
You seem to misunderstand my intentions, WJ can post anywhere he sees fit to post, however, when he feels the need to post a reference that jesus is god he does so by using his created thread, and for him to mention another by name in his created thread, they do not respond in his thread.
for example:
WJ noted my name in his created thread, I have not responded to this in his thread. However, WJ will not respond in my created thread Being set up by KJ with any comments that make reference to jesus is god.This would be three fold advantage, one, WJ would not have to be bothered with his thread becoming off topic, for we know this bothers him.
two, when another creates a thread the thread will not end up another who is god and who isn't, three, perhaps the high volume of complaints will be lowered, and the mods would have an easier go of monitoring threads.It has been noted that this forum would have no light in it without trinity/binity believers, only one way to find out.
Princess
Quote It has been noted that this forum would have no light in it without trinity/binity believers, only one way to find out. how is that ?
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,18:48) Princess Quote It has been noted that this forum would have no light in it without trinity/binity believers, only one way to find out. how is that ?
Pierre
I said it and it is the truth. Kathi, Keith and myself give this forum light. This forum would be all darkness without us.You say thanks by spitting on God's truth.
KJ
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,13:04) Well, at least they would be safer there Pierre. They wouldn't have to put up with you and Irene and t8 and me constantly blasting that comically flawed, man-made doctrine to shreds.
Mike tears his own theology to shreds by speaking out of two sides of his mouth. Jesus is begotten and distinguished from the angels. No wait, Jesus is an angel.
KJ
Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 06 2011,09:14) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,18:48) Princess Quote It has been noted that this forum would have no light in it without trinity/binity believers, only one way to find out. how is that ?
Pierre
I said it and it is the truth. Kathi, Keith and myself give this forum light. This forum would be all darkness without us.You say thanks by spitting on God's truth.
KJ
KJQuote I said it and it is the truth. Kathi, Keith and myself give this forum light. no, you guys create a diversion in the dark room ,not knowing where you going ,and then call it light ,
you guys and your doctrines can not see truth of God even if you have it two millimeters away from your eyes and brains .
so it will be, now more difficult for others to look for truth, trough that pile of garbage of unbiblical rhetoric spread all over this site,
trini,and bini are not registered truth in scriptures ,
Pierre
Quote (princess @ Aug. 03 2011,00:51) Mike and T, You seem to misunderstand my intentions, WJ can post anywhere he sees fit to post, however, when he feels the need to post a reference that jesus is god he does so by using his created thread, and for him to mention another by name in his created thread, they do not respond in his thread.
for example:
WJ noted my name in his created thread, I have not responded to this in his thread. However, WJ will not respond in my created thread Being set up by KJ with any comments that make reference to jesus is god.This would be three fold advantage, one, WJ would not have to be bothered with his thread becoming off topic, for we know this bothers him.
two, when another creates a thread the thread will not end up another who is god and who isn't, three, perhaps the high volume of complaints will be lowered, and the mods would have an easier go of monitoring threads.It has been noted that this forum would have no light in it without trinity/binity believers, only one way to find out.
princesswhat are you calling light
Pierre
Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 05 2011,09:17) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,13:04) Well, at least they would be safer there Pierre. They wouldn't have to put up with you and Irene and t8 and me constantly blasting that comically flawed, man-made doctrine to shreds.
Mike tears his own theology to shreds by speaking out of two sides of his mouth. Jesus is begotten and distinguished from the angels. No wait, Jesus is an angel.KJ
Yes Jack. That is correct. I'm not seeing your problem with that.Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 06 2011,02:14) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,18:48) Princess Quote It has been noted that this forum would have no light in it without trinity/binity believers, only one way to find out. how is that ?
Pierre
I said it and it is the truth. Kathi, Keith and myself give this forum light. This forum would be all darkness without us.You say thanks by spitting on God's truth.
KJ
I knew I read it, I thought it came from WJ, however I did not want to mentions any names.I would not go as far as saying you give light, most of your comments towards others have that holier then thou attitude, so your statements come off not very loving toward another, however it could just be me.
To me KJ, you are killing the message with the messenger. You cannot make a statement on any matter other then to state that jesus is god. Re read your comments, everything leads to this with you. So yes you are consistent, however it really is no accomplishment, when the subject matter is the same over and over again.
For one to speak of the patience of Job, you would find some way to make statement that jesus is god. How can one have a conversation with you, when all that will amount to it, is that jesus is god, really is that all the message you have.
Here, let me ask you a question, what is your take on tithing?
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