Jw's and islam

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59)

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral?

It's not up to me to defend your libel. It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”.

Stuart

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,08:03)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral? It's not up to me to defend your libel.  It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Stuart

You are simply being dishonest. You are so blind, tell me what evolved first the mouth or the rectum?

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,13:09)

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,08:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral? It's not up to me to defend your libel.  It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Stuart You are simply being dishonest. You are so blind, tell me what evolved first the mouth or the rectum?

Can you substantiate your claim, and if not, can you tell me whether you are financially worth the bother of a lawsuit?

Stuart

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,14:02)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,13:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,08:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral? It's not up to me to defend your libel.  It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Stuart You are simply being dishonest. You are so blind, tell me what evolved first the mouth or the rectum? Can you substantiate your claim, and if not, can you tell me whether you are financially worth the bother of a lawsuit? Stuart

What evolved first the gag reflex or the throat?

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,16:35)

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,14:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,13:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,08:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral? It's not up to me to defend your libel.  It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Stuart You are simply being dishonest. You are so blind, tell me what evolved first the mouth or the rectum? Can you substantiate your claim, and if not, can you tell me whether you are financially worth the bother of a lawsuit? Stuart What evolved first the gag reflex or the throat?

Lame. You cannot substantiate your claims, even though it should be pretty easy to do so if they were true, through the use of Google and the search engine on this site.

This is just another Asana Bodhitharta debating tactic: make slanderous claims then run away.

Stuart

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,18:24)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,16:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,14:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,13:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,08:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral? It's not up to me to defend your libel.  It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Stuart You are simply being dishonest. You are so blind, tell me what evolved first the mouth or the rectum? Can you substantiate your claim, and if not, can you tell me whether you are financially worth the bother of a lawsuit? Stuart What evolved first the gag reflex or the throat? Lame.  You cannot substantiate your claims, even though it should be pretty easy to do so if they were true, through the use of Google and the search engine on this site. This is just another Asana Bodhitharta debating tactic:  make slanderous claims then run away. Stuart

Do you even dispute the claim?

[betweenchristendomandjws]

Some Jesus is michael the archangel “proof texts”

Thessalonians 4:16

16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.

Galatians 4:14

14 And what was a trial to YOU in my flesh, YOU did not treat with contempt or spit at in disgust; but YOU received me like an angel of God, like Christ Jesus

Revelation 7:1-3

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the sunrising, having a seal of [the] living God; and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying: “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.

Here we have Jesus being compared to angels which is something that NEVER happens to God, the angel in Revelation gives orders to other angels and has God's seal, nowhere in the bible does it have angels ordering other angels around.

I think i'll post this in the inferred doctrine section as well.

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 20 2010,09:53)

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,18:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,16:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,14:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,13:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,08:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral? It's not up to me to defend your libel.  It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Stuart You are simply being dishonest. You are so blind, tell me what evolved first the mouth or the rectum? Can you substantiate your claim, and if not, can you tell me whether you are financially worth the bother of a lawsuit? Stuart What evolved first the gag reflex or the throat? Lame.  You cannot substantiate your claims, even though it should be pretty easy to do so if they were true, through the use of Google and the search engine on this site. This is just another Asana Bodhitharta debating tactic:  make slanderous claims then run away. Stuart Do you even dispute the claim?

Why would I accuse you of slander otherwise?

Can you show us the posts that substantiate your claim or not?

Stuart

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2010,13:09)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 20 2010,09:53) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,18:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,16:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,14:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,13:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,08:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral? It's not up to me to defend your libel.  It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Stuart You are simply being dishonest. You are so blind, tell me what evolved first the mouth or the rectum? Can you substantiate your claim, and if not, can you tell me whether you are financially worth the bother of a lawsuit? Stuart What evolved first the gag reflex or the throat? Lame.  You cannot substantiate your claims, even though it should be pretty easy to do so if they were true, through the use of Google and the search engine on this site. This is just another Asana Bodhitharta debating tactic:  make slanderous claims then run away. Stuart Do you even dispute the claim? Why would I accuse you of slander otherwise? Can you show us the posts that substantiate your claim or not? Stuart

Stu,

Do you even know what slander is? for me to have slandered you , you would have to say it is untrue that you accept consentual homosexual as Moral and likewise for consentual incest between adults.

If you have had that position this entire time of the immorality of those things tha I have slandered you if not you don't have a reason to say I slandered you.

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 20 2010,23:17)

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2010,13:09) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 20 2010,09:53) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,18:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,16:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,14:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,13:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,08:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral? It's not up to me to defend your libel.  It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Stuart You are simply being dishonest. You are so blind, tell me what evolved first the mouth or the rectum? Can you substantiate your claim, and if not, can you tell me whether you are financially worth the bother of a lawsuit? Stuart What evolved first the gag reflex or the throat? Lame.  You cannot substantiate your claims, even though it should be pretty easy to do so if they were true, through the use of Google and the search engine on this site. This is just another Asana Bodhitharta debating tactic:  make slanderous claims then run away. Stuart Do you even dispute the claim? Why would I accuse you of slander otherwise? Can you show us the posts that substantiate your claim or not? Stuart Stu, Do you even know what slander is? for me to have slandered you , you would have to say it is untrue that you accept consentual homosexual as Moral and likewise for consentual incest between adults. If you have had that position this entire time of the immorality of those things tha I have slandered you if not you don't have a reason to say I slandered you.

That was not your statement. As is contained above, you claimed that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”.

That's “stand for” and “find superior”, neither of which is true. You did not mention morality in that statement at all.

Do you retract those statements, or can you show the posts that substantiate them?

Stuart

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2010,08:43)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 20 2010,23:17) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2010,13:09) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 20 2010,09:53) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,18:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,16:35) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,14:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 19 2010,13:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 19 2010,08:03) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 18 2010,21:59) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 18 2010,15:06) I have complained about your libel to the mods.  You should prepare yourself to defend your accusation that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Do you have any liability insurance?  Are you worth suing? Stuart Did you or did you not say that any consentual relationship to you is Moral? It's not up to me to defend your libel.  It's up to you to find the posts where I have said I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. Stuart You are simply being dishonest. You are so blind, tell me what evolved first the mouth or the rectum? Can you substantiate your claim, and if not, can you tell me whether you are financially worth the bother of a lawsuit? Stuart What evolved first the gag reflex or the throat? Lame.  You cannot substantiate your claims, even though it should be pretty easy to do so if they were true, through the use of Google and the search engine on this site. This is just another Asana Bodhitharta debating tactic:  make slanderous claims then run away. Stuart Do you even dispute the claim? Why would I accuse you of slander otherwise? Can you show us the posts that substantiate your claim or not? Stuart Stu, Do you even know what slander is? for me to have slandered you , you would have to say it is untrue that you accept consentual homosexual as Moral and likewise for consentual incest between adults. If you have had that position this entire time of the immorality of those things tha I have slandered you if not you don't have a reason to say I slandered you. That was not your statement.  As is contained above, you claimed that I “certainly stand for incest, homosexuality and the combination of both, still find pornography and prostitution superior to modesty and covering up”. That's “stand for” and “find superior”, neither of which is true.  You did not mention morality in that statement at all. Do you retract those statements, or can you show the posts that substantiate them? Stuart

The fact is you have said you find it immoral to stand against homosexuality and therefore you are for it and you have said that any consentual act is not immoral, what's wrong does the truth of what you speak irritating even to you?

If you are for these things or don't feel they should be prohibited then why not stand up for your beliefs instead of cowering from the truth of them.

So, for the sake of argument I retract the statement I made and now ask you afresh do you stand for Homosexuality? Yes or No?

Do you stand for consenting adults to commit incest, even homosexual incest? Yes or No?

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,11:44)

So, for the sake of argument I retract the statement I made

Thank you.

Stuart

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2010,13:01)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,11:44) So, for the sake of argument I retract the statement I made Thank you. Stuart

your welcome.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,15:09)

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2010,13:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,11:44) So, for the sake of argument I retract the statement I made Thank you. Stuart your welcome.

Hi BD,

Our ability to Repent for forgiveness is what Jesus died for!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,16:14)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,15:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2010,13:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,11:44) So, for the sake of argument I retract the statement I made Thank you. Stuart your welcome. Hi BD, Our ability to Repent for forgiveness is what Jesus died for! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

That is not scriptural.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2010,10:57)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,16:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,15:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2010,13:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,11:44) So, for the sake of argument I retract the statement I made Thank you. Stuart your welcome. Hi BD, Our ability to Repent for forgiveness is what Jesus died for! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org That is not scriptural.

Hi BD,

What do you call this?

Matt.4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and
to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

YHVH bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2010,19:02)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2010,10:57) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,16:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,15:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2010,13:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,11:44) So, for the sake of argument I retract the statement I made Thank you. Stuart your welcome. Hi BD, Our ability to Repent for forgiveness is what Jesus died for! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org That is not scriptural. Hi BD, What do you call this? Matt.4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. YHVH bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

That is not the same statement or meaning. Repentence was always preached from the beginning

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2010,21:46)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2010,19:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2010,10:57) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,16:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,15:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2010,13:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,11:44) So, for the sake of argument I retract the statement I made Thank you. Stuart your welcome. Hi BD, Our ability to Repent for forgiveness is what Jesus died for! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org That is not scriptural. Hi BD, What do you call this? Matt.4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. YHVH bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org That is not the same statement or meaning. Repentence was always preached from the beginning

Hi BD,

The quran is confusing you brother! Turn to YHVH God, the real God!
Acts:3:19: Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be
blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom.5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2010,17:01)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2010,21:46) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2010,19:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 27 2010,10:57) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2010,16:14) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,15:09) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 21 2010,13:01) Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 21 2010,11:44) So, for the sake of argument I retract the statement I made Thank you. Stuart your welcome. Hi BD, Our ability to Repent for forgiveness is what Jesus died for! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org That is not scriptural. Hi BD, What do you call this? Matt.4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. YHVH bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org That is not the same statement or meaning. Repentence was always preached from the beginning Hi BD, The quran is confusing you brother! Turn to YHVH God, the real God! Acts:3:19: Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. Rom.5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed,

Are you telling me that before Jesus no one could repent?

Jonah 3:4-22 (King James Version)
4And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
5So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
6For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
10And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

P.S. you should not need to be derogatory towards the Quran to prove anything from the bible this just shows how immature you still are. The fact is John preached the baptism of repentance and even baptized Jesus.

You keep thinking that to make your arguments valid you have to attack the person and not the argument it is a very wesk technique, especially when someone calls you out on it.

If I had said I learned what I said from the uran then you saying “The quaran is confusing you brother” would at least have a basis to it but the fact is long before I ever picked up a Quran I learned this from the Bible having already turned to YHVH who is ALLAH but you cannot understand this yet, I only hope and pray that you will continue growing in knowledge that one day you may understand.

God Bless!

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

Do you still reject the “Gospel” of Jesus Christ?

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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