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  • #269679
    terraricca
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    bod

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    Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take abraham for a friend.

    how do you mixed this quote;

    The only true faith in God's sight is Islam.

    Quran 3:19; “The Imrans,”

    He that chooses a religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.

    Quran 3:85, “The Imrans,

    You are the noblest community ever raised up for mankind. You enjoin justice and forbid evil. You believe in God.

    Had the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] accepted the Faith, it would surely have been better for them. Some are true believers, but most are evil-doers.

    Quran 3:110-111, “The Imrans,

    God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.

    Quran 2:89-2:90, “The Cow,

    the following request by Muslim believers means ??the destruction of all others.

    God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.

    Quran 2:89-2:90, “The Cow,

    AND:

    Lord…Give us victory over the unbelievers.

    Quran 2:286, “The Cow,” Dawood, p. 46

    “Lord…give us victory over the unbelievers.”

    Quran 3:148, “The Imrans,

    I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers.

    Quran 8:12, “The Spoils,” Dawood, p. 177

    Fight for the sake of God those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. God does not love the aggressors.

    Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is worse than carnage.

    Quran 2:190-2:191, “The Cow,

    Now get this straight ,Abraham never ,never acted or says any thing in this way, Muslim are killing anyone that does not accept their religion,look in the news today,this is a never ending story until they succeed,

    so you are a deceiver and your god is not the Jehovah the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacobs ,and Israel,and true Christians ,

    the true God did not made two covenants only one and it is not with Muhammad or the Muslim world,

    JN 14:6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

    the words of Jesus the son of God makes your Prophet a deceiver,and obviously one that can not serve him ,unless he comes to Christ ,

    only one God but that is not the one that Muslims are worshiping ,neither in spirit or in action ,

    WISDOM STANDS ON HIS ACTIONS,

    Pierre

    #269687
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,10:02)
    bod

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    Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take abraham for a friend.  

    how do you mixed this quote;

    The only true faith in God's sight is Islam.

    Quran 3:19; “The Imrans,”

    He that chooses a religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.

    Quran 3:85, “The Imrans,

    You are the noblest community ever raised up for mankind. You enjoin justice and forbid evil. You believe in God.

    Had the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] accepted the Faith, it would surely have been better for them. Some are true believers, but most are evil-doers.

    Quran 3:110-111, “The Imrans,

    God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.

    Quran 2:89-2:90, “The Cow,

    the following request by Muslim believers means ??the destruction of all others.

    God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.

    Quran 2:89-2:90, “The Cow,

    AND:

    Lord…Give us victory over the unbelievers.

    Quran 2:286, “The Cow,” Dawood, p. 46

    “Lord…give us victory over the unbelievers.”

    Quran 3:148, “The Imrans,

    I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers.

    Quran 8:12, “The Spoils,” Dawood, p. 177

    Fight for the sake of God those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. God does not love the aggressors.

    Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is worse than carnage.

    Quran 2:190-2:191, “The Cow,

    Now get this straight ,Abraham never ,never acted or says any thing in this way, Muslim are killing anyone that does not accept their religion,look in the news today,this is a never ending story until they succeed,

    so you are a deceiver and your god is not the Jehovah the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacobs ,and Israel,and true Christians ,

    the true God did not made two covenants only one and it is not with Muhammad or the Muslim world,

    JN 14:6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

    the words of Jesus the son of God makes your Prophet a deceiver,and obviously one that can not serve him ,unless he comes to Christ ,

    only one God but that is not the one that Muslims are worshiping ,neither in spirit or in action ,

    WISDOM STANDS ON HIS ACTIONS,

    Pierre


    What will happen to those who do not believe in God, will they go to hell or heaven? you make no sense and you don't even know Jesus or your “Religion”

    Exodus 15:3

    (YLT)3Jehovah [is] a man of battle; Jehovah [is] His name.

    King James

    Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

    Do you not believe that hell awaits the unbelievers?

    Psalm 9:17
    The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

    Isaiah 5:14
    Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

    One Day We will ask hell, “Art thou filled to the full?” It will say, “Are there any more (to come)?”
    ( سورة ق , Qaf, Chapter #50, Verse #30)

    You should study and then you will see that God does not love the evil doers

    #269698
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2011,19:04)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,10:02)
    bod

    Quote
    Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take abraham for a friend.  

    how do you mixed this quote;

    The only true faith in God's sight is Islam.

    Quran 3:19; “The Imrans,”

    He that chooses a religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.

    Quran 3:85, “The Imrans,

    You are the noblest community ever raised up for mankind. You enjoin justice and forbid evil. You believe in God.

    Had the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] accepted the Faith, it would surely have been better for them. Some are true believers, but most are evil-doers.

    Quran 3:110-111, “The Imrans,

    God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.

    Quran 2:89-2:90, “The Cow,

    the following request by Muslim believers means ??the destruction of all others.

    God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers.

    Quran 2:89-2:90, “The Cow,

    AND:

    Lord…Give us victory over the unbelievers.

    Quran 2:286, “The Cow,” Dawood, p. 46

    “Lord…give us victory over the unbelievers.”

    Quran 3:148, “The Imrans,

    I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers.

    Quran 8:12, “The Spoils,” Dawood, p. 177

    Fight for the sake of God those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. God does not love the aggressors.

    Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is worse than carnage.

    Quran 2:190-2:191, “The Cow,

    Now get this straight ,Abraham never ,never acted or says any thing in this way, Muslim are killing anyone that does not accept their religion,look in the news today,this is a never ending story until they succeed,

    so you are a deceiver and your god is not the Jehovah the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacobs ,and Israel,and true Christians ,

    the true God did not made two covenants only one and it is not with Muhammad or the Muslim world,

    JN 14:6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

    the words of Jesus the son of God makes your Prophet a deceiver,and obviously one that can not serve him ,unless he comes to Christ ,

    only one God but that is not the one that Muslims are worshiping ,neither in spirit or in action ,

    WISDOM STANDS ON HIS ACTIONS,

    Pierre


    What will happen to those who do not believe in God, will they go to hell or heaven? you make no sense and you don't even know Jesus or your “Religion”

    Exodus 15:3

    (YLT)3Jehovah [is] a man of battle; Jehovah [is] His name.

    King James

    Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

    Do you not believe that hell awaits the unbelievers?

    Psalm 9:17
    The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

    Isaiah 5:14
    Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

    One Day We will ask hell, “Art thou filled to the full?” It will say, “Are there any more (to come)?”  
    (  سورة ق  , Qaf, Chapter #50, Verse #30)

    You should study and then you will see that God does not love the evil doers


    bod

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    Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

    Exodus15;1Then Moses and the Israelites sang 2  this song to the Lord. They said, Ex 15:3 The LORD is a warrior;
    the LORD is his name.

    “I will sing 4  to the Lord, for he has triumphed gloriously, 5
    the horse and its rider 6  he has thrown into the sea.
    15:2 The Lord 7  is my strength and my song, 8
    and he has become my salvation.
    This is my God, and I will praise him, 9
    my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
    15:3 The Lord is a warrior, 10
    the Lord is his name. 11
    15:4 The chariots of Pharaoh 12  and his army he has thrown into the sea,
    and his chosen 13  officers were drowned 14  in the Red Sea.
    15:5 The depths have covered them, 15
    they went down to the bottom 16  like a stone.

    it seems you try to deceive me by quoting your version of scriptures,

    it does not say what you say it says,

    Quote
    What will happen to those who do not believe in God, will they go to hell or heaven? you make no sense and you don't even know Jesus or your “Religion”

    it is not for me to judge who is saved and who is not ,but scriptures tells us that any one that embraced the son of God will be saved ,but not all will come at ones some will only come at the end of the 1000 years of Christ at the second resurrection,it will be preached to them their is no other way ,because scriptures are saying that Christ is the way the door to the kingdom of God ,but only men own mind and heart can prevent him to come to God ,

    God ,is always standing in wait for men to repent and follow him to receive live everlasting,is it in heaven ? is it on earth ?

    God knows and he will sit all of us were we belong.

    Pierre

    #269726
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,12:22)
    bod

    Quote
    Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

    Exodus15;1Then Moses and the Israelites sang 2  this song to the Lord. They said, Ex 15:3 The LORD is a warrior;
    the LORD is his name.

    “I will sing 4  to the Lord, for he has triumphed gloriously, 5
    the horse and its rider 6  he has thrown into the sea.
    15:2 The Lord 7  is my strength and my song, 8
    and he has become my salvation.
    This is my God, and I will praise him, 9
    my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
    15:3 The Lord is a warrior, 10
    the Lord is his name. 11
    15:4 The chariots of Pharaoh 12  and his army he has thrown into the sea,
    and his chosen 13  officers were drowned 14  in the Red Sea.
    15:5 The depths have covered them, 15
    they went down to the bottom 16  like a stone.

    it seems you try to deceive me by quoting your version of scriptures,

    it does not say what you say it says,

    Quote
    What will happen to those who do not believe in God, will they go to hell or heaven? you make no sense and you don't even know Jesus or your “Religion”

    it is not for me to judge who is saved and who is not ,but scriptures tells us that any one that embraced the son of God will be saved ,but not all will come at ones some will only come at the end of the 1000 years of Christ at the second resurrection,it will be preached to them their is no other way ,because scriptures are saying that Christ is the way the door to the kingdom of God ,but only men own mind and heart can prevent him to come to God ,

    God ,is always standing in wait for men to repent and follow him to receive live everlasting,is it in heaven ? is it on earth ?

    God knows and he will sit all of us were we belong.

    Pierre


    So you are saying they sang something the Lord disapproved of? Well how about the Lord saying this?

    Exodus 22:22-25

    King James Version (KJV)

    22Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child.

    23If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto me, I will surely hear their cry;

    24And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.

    Why is it you do not accept that God does bring war and death upon people? If HE is not doing it tell me who is?

    #269729
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2011,20:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,12:22)
    bod

    Quote
    Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

    Exodus15;1Then Moses and the Israelites sang 2  this song to the Lord. They said, Ex 15:3 The LORD is a warrior;
    the LORD is his name.

    “I will sing 4  to the Lord, for he has triumphed gloriously, 5
    the horse and its rider 6  he has thrown into the sea.
    15:2 The Lord 7  is my strength and my song, 8
    and he has become my salvation.
    This is my God, and I will praise him, 9
    my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
    15:3 The Lord is a warrior, 10
    the Lord is his name. 11
    15:4 The chariots of Pharaoh 12  and his army he has thrown into the sea,
    and his chosen 13  officers were drowned 14  in the Red Sea.
    15:5 The depths have covered them, 15
    they went down to the bottom 16  like a stone.

    it seems you try to deceive me by quoting your version of scriptures,

    it does not say what you say it says,

    Quote
    What will happen to those who do not believe in God, will they go to hell or heaven? you make no sense and you don't even know Jesus or your “Religion”

    it is not for me to judge who is saved and who is not ,but scriptures tells us that any one that embraced the son of God will be saved ,but not all will come at ones some will only come at the end of the 1000 years of Christ at the second resurrection,it will be preached to them their is no other way ,because scriptures are saying that Christ is the way the door to the kingdom of God ,but only men own mind and heart can prevent him to come to God ,

    God ,is always standing in wait for men to repent and follow him to receive live everlasting,is it in heaven ? is it on earth ?

    God knows and he will sit all of us were we belong.

    Pierre


    So you are saying they sang something the Lord disapproved of? Well how about the Lord saying this?

    Exodus 22:22-25

    King James Version (KJV)

    22Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child.

    23If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto me, I will surely hear their cry;

    24And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.

    Why is it you do not accept that God does bring war and death upon people? If HE is not doing it tell me who is?


    bod

    Ex 22:16 “If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife.
    Ex 22:17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.
    Ex 22:18 “Do not allow a sorceress to live.
    Ex 22:19 “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.
    Ex 22:20 “Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.
    Ex 22:21 “Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt.
    Ex 22:22 “Do not take advantage of a widow or an orphan.
    Ex 22:23 If you do and they cry out to me, I will certainly hear their cry.
    Ex 22:24 My anger will be aroused, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives will become widows and your children fatherless.
    Ex 22:25 “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest.
    Ex 22:26 If you take your neighbor’s cloak as a pledge, return it to him by sunset,
    Ex 22:27 because his cloak is the only covering he has for his body. What else will he sleep in? When he cries out to me, I will hear, for I am compassionate.

    so what it means is that Gods is still in control and will make people pay for the wrong they are doing on the earth

    God is not a man ,and does not fight or punish with swords .but usese other men army to destroy the wicket ones ,at the end he will use nature to destroy the wicket ones ,like he did for Sodome and the flood in noah,s days.

    Pierre

    #269730
    terraricca
    Participant

    bod

    but lets go back to your claim that the Koran is a Godly book of the God of Abraham ,this is a lie,

    and also that hallah is the God of Abraham ,Isaac ,Jacob,and Israel nation, and the father of Christ and his God,this is also a lie Hallah stands for god but who knows for wich one could anyone ,anyone wants for that matter,exept the God of Abraham ,Isaac and jacobs and Christ ;;;;;;;;;;;ect

    now are you Muslim or not ??????

    Pierre

    #269731
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,13:47)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2011,20:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,12:22)
    bod

    Quote
    Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

    Exodus15;1Then Moses and the Israelites sang 2  this song to the Lord. They said, Ex 15:3 The LORD is a warrior;
    the LORD is his name.

    “I will sing 4  to the Lord, for he has triumphed gloriously, 5
    the horse and its rider 6  he has thrown into the sea.
    15:2 The Lord 7  is my strength and my song, 8
    and he has become my salvation.
    This is my God, and I will praise him, 9
    my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
    15:3 The Lord is a warrior, 10
    the Lord is his name. 11
    15:4 The chariots of Pharaoh 12  and his army he has thrown into the sea,
    and his chosen 13  officers were drowned 14  in the Red Sea.
    15:5 The depths have covered them, 15
    they went down to the bottom 16  like a stone.

    it seems you try to deceive me by quoting your version of scriptures,

    it does not say what you say it says,

    Quote
    What will happen to those who do not believe in God, will they go to hell or heaven? you make no sense and you don't even know Jesus or your “Religion”

    it is not for me to judge who is saved and who is not ,but scriptures tells us that any one that embraced the son of God will be saved ,but not all will come at ones some will only come at the end of the 1000 years of Christ at the second resurrection,it will be preached to them their is no other way ,because scriptures are saying that Christ is the way the door to the kingdom of God ,but only men own mind and heart can prevent him to come to God ,

    God ,is always standing in wait for men to repent and follow him to receive live everlasting,is it in heaven ? is it on earth ?

    God knows and he will sit all of us were we belong.

    Pierre


    So you are saying they sang something the Lord disapproved of? Well how about the Lord saying this?

    Exodus 22:22-25

    King James Version (KJV)

    22Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child.

    23If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto me, I will surely hear their cry;

    24And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.

    Why is it you do not accept that God does bring war and death upon people? If HE is not doing it tell me who is?


    bod

    Ex 22:16 “If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife.
    Ex 22:17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.
    Ex 22:18 “Do not allow a sorceress to live.
    Ex 22:19 “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.
    Ex 22:20 “Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.
    Ex 22:21 “Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt.
    Ex 22:22 “Do not take advantage of a widow or an orphan.
    Ex 22:23 If you do and they cry out to me, I will certainly hear their cry.
    Ex 22:24 My anger will be aroused, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives will become widows and your children fatherless.
    Ex 22:25 “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest.
    Ex 22:26 If you take your neighbor’s cloak as a pledge, return it to him by sunset,
    Ex 22:27 because his cloak is the only covering he has for his body. What else will he sleep in? When he cries out to me, I will hear, for I am compassionate.

    so what it means is that Gods is still in control and will make people pay for the wrong they are doing on the earth

    God is not a man ,and does not fight or punish with swords .but usese other men army to destroy the wicket ones ,at the end he will use nature to destroy the wicket ones ,like he did for Sodome and the flood in noah,s days.

    Pierre


    You see now we are starting to agree

    #269733
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2011,20:53)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,13:47)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 28 2011,20:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,12:22)
    bod

    Quote
    Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

    Exodus15;1Then Moses and the Israelites sang 2  this song to the Lord. They said, Ex 15:3 The LORD is a warrior;
    the LORD is his name.

    “I will sing 4  to the Lord, for he has triumphed gloriously, 5
    the horse and its rider 6  he has thrown into the sea.
    15:2 The Lord 7  is my strength and my song, 8
    and he has become my salvation.
    This is my God, and I will praise him, 9
    my father’s God, and I will exalt him.
    15:3 The Lord is a warrior, 10
    the Lord is his name. 11
    15:4 The chariots of Pharaoh 12  and his army he has thrown into the sea,
    and his chosen 13  officers were drowned 14  in the Red Sea.
    15:5 The depths have covered them, 15
    they went down to the bottom 16  like a stone.

    it seems you try to deceive me by quoting your version of scriptures,

    it does not say what you say it says,

    Quote
    What will happen to those who do not believe in God, will they go to hell or heaven? you make no sense and you don't even know Jesus or your “Religion”

    it is not for me to judge who is saved and who is not ,but scriptures tells us that any one that embraced the son of God will be saved ,but not all will come at ones some will only come at the end of the 1000 years of Christ at the second resurrection,it will be preached to them their is no other way ,because scriptures are saying that Christ is the way the door to the kingdom of God ,but only men own mind and heart can prevent him to come to God ,

    God ,is always standing in wait for men to repent and follow him to receive live everlasting,is it in heaven ? is it on earth ?

    God knows and he will sit all of us were we belong.

    Pierre


    So you are saying they sang something the Lord disapproved of? Well how about the Lord saying this?

    Exodus 22:22-25

    King James Version (KJV)

    22Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child.

    23If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto me, I will surely hear their cry;

    24And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.

    Why is it you do not accept that God does bring war and death upon people? If HE is not doing it tell me who is?


    bod

    Ex 22:16 “If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife.
    Ex 22:17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.
    Ex 22:18 “Do not allow a sorceress to live.
    Ex 22:19 “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.
    Ex 22:20 “Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.
    Ex 22:21 “Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt.
    Ex 22:22 “Do not take advantage of a widow or an orphan.
    Ex 22:23 If you do and they cry out to me, I will certainly hear their cry.
    Ex 22:24 My anger will be aroused, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives will become widows and your children fatherless.
    Ex 22:25 “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest.
    Ex 22:26 If you take your neighbor’s cloak as a pledge, return it to him by sunset,
    Ex 22:27 because his cloak is the only covering he has for his body. What else will he sleep in? When he cries out to me, I will hear, for I am compassionate.

    so what it means is that Gods is still in control and will make people pay for the wrong they are doing on the earth

    God is not a man ,and does not fight or punish with swords .but usese other men army to destroy the wicket ones ,at the end he will use nature to destroy the wicket ones ,like he did for Sodome and the flood in noah,s days.

    Pierre


    You see now we are starting to agree


    bod

    agreeing on what ??

    and you do not answer my questions why ??

    pierre

    #269780
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,13:55)
    bod

    agreeing on what ??

    and you do not answer my questions why ??

    pierre


    What question did you ask?

    #269782
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,10:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,13:55)
    bod

    agreeing on what ??

    and you do not answer my questions why ??

    pierre


    What question did you ask?


    bod

    are you a Muslim ?

    and on what do we agree??

    Pierre

    #269787
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2011,03:38)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,10:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,13:55)
    bod

    agreeing on what ??

    and you do not answer my questions why ??

    pierre


    What question did you ask?


    bod

    are you a Muslim ?

    and on what do we agree??

    Pierre


    Of course I am, but I don't think you are a Muslim because you don't want to Submit to God instead you prefer division

    #269794
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,11:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2011,03:38)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,10:36)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2011,13:55)
    bod

    agreeing on what ??

    and you do not answer my questions why ??

    pierre


    What question did you ask?


    bod

    are you a Muslim ?

    and on what do we agree??

    Pierre


    Of course I am, but I don't think you are a Muslim because you don't want to Submit to God instead you prefer division


    bod

    definitively not, I am a Christian to the cord of my bones ,I will and am submit to the God of Abraham,Isaac,Jacob,David ,and Christ and his apostles,and follow the guidance of the words of the son of God ,NOT MEN,

     

    Quote
    Of course I am (Muslim), but I don't think you are a Muslim because you don't want to Submit to God instead you prefer division

    so all are discussion I have prove to you that your god that you call Allah,is NOT the same god has Christ father and that you follow the man called Muhammad and his written words what is called Koran,all man made ,

    it does not matter how much you will try to deceive people on this site ,it will never change the fact that you are not serving the true God our creator,Jehovah,

    and this is not of me but of the scriptures;

    this is also addressed to Mike so if he still want now to show me that your pretension to serve the God of Abraham with your Koran ,I be waiting to see .

    and one more thing ;you are presenting the Koran in a deceitful way,like I have showed you,

    the wisdom of the Koran is standing on his action ;crime,murders,corruption,hatred for Jews and Christians ,and the will to take over the world to dominate it ,

    NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN THE TRUE GOD WILL DESTROY THOSE NATIONS THAT DO NOT SUPPORT HIS SON CHRIST,

    Pierre

    Pierre

    #269804
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2011,06:14)
    bod

    definitively not, I am a Christian to the cord of my bones ,I will and am submit to the God of Abraham,Isaac,Jacob,David ,and Christ and his apostles,and follow the guidance of the words of the son of God ,NOT MEN,

     

    Quote
    Of course I am (Muslim), but I don't think you are a Muslim because you don't want to Submit to God instead you prefer division

    so all are discussion I have prove to you that your god that you call Allah,is NOT the same god has Christ father and that you follow the man called Muhammad and his written words what is called Koran,all man made ,

    it does not matter how much you will try to deceive people on this site ,it will never change the fact that you are not serving the true God our creator,Jehovah,

    and this is not of me but of the scriptures;

    this is also addressed to Mike so if he still want now to show me that your pretension to serve the God of Abraham with your Koran ,I be waiting to see .

    and one more thing ;you are presenting the Koran in a deceitful way,like I have showed you,

    the wisdom of the Koran is standing on his action ;crime,murders,corruption,hatred for Jews and Christians ,and the will to take over the world to dominate it ,

    NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN THE TRUE GOD WILL DESTROY THOSE NATIONS THAT DO NOT SUPPORT HIS SON CHRIST,

    Pierre

    Pierre


    You cannot even consider yourself a Christian because Jesus doesn't support your view either Jesus says:

    Luke 9:50
    And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

    ALL MUSLIMS are for CHRIST JESUS so when you say we do not worship the same God it is also an insult to CHRIST JESUS himself because we worship the God that JESUS worships although many so called “Christians” worship Jesus as God or worship some created 3/1 Triune God but all that you accept and instead you reject those who believe in Jesus CHRIST as CHRIST and also THE GOD JESUS WORSHIPS

    IF you worshiped the GOD that JESUS CHRIST WORSHIPS you would know we worship the same GOD just like Jesus said to the Jews if they knew God they would love him instead they were like you blind to their own righteousness and not “submitting” to the righteousness of GOD

    Like Mike said your argument is misplaced it should be based on the differences we have worshiping the same GOD but as I said their is a veil over your heart and eyes. Seeing you don't perceive and hearing you don't understand

    #269810
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD

    “and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received
    his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands;” (Rev.20:4)

    B'shem (in the Name of)
    YHVH (the everlasting God)

    #269822
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2011,09:52)
    Hi BD

    “and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God,
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received
    his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands;” (Rev.20:4)


    Have Christians ever beheaded Muslims ED?

    #269823
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Do you deny that muslims are taught to behead Christians?

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #269828
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2011,11:40)
    Hi BD,

    Do you deny that muslims are taught to behead Christians?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Yes, I deny that Muslims are taught to behead anyone except those they are fighting in war but these regions where people kill one another are not about Biblical or Quranic idea they are about cultural hatred

    When Jerusalem was conquered on the 15th of July 1099 by the Crusaders who were also known as the Christian Knights, more than 60,000 inhabitants, both Jewish and Muslim, were slaughtered in cold blood. In the words of one witness

    …there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes, and after that “happily and crying for joy” our people marched to our Saviour’s tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude.

    The Archbishop of Tyre, who was also an eye-witness, wrote that:

    It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished.

    http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archive….muslims

    #269836
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,18:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2011,11:40)
    Hi BD,

    Do you deny that muslims are taught to behead Christians?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Yes, I deny that Muslims are taught to behead anyone except those they are fighting in war but these regions where people kill one another are not about Biblical or Quranic idea they are about cultural hatred

    When Jerusalem was conquered on the 15th of July 1099 by the Crusaders who were also known as the Christian Knights, more than 60,000 inhabitants, both Jewish and Muslim, were slaughtered in cold blood. In the words of one witness

    …there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes, and after that “happily and crying for joy” our people marched to our Saviour’s tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude.

    The Archbishop of Tyre, who was also an eye-witness, wrote that:

    It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished.

    http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archive….muslims


    bod

    we do not talking about wars ,and battles ,but about sadism in killing ,murders , genocides this was done to any people that did not accept Islam as master ,I have showed you the Koran verses

    that says to kill the unbelievers

    you are BIAS and you want us to have a good view toward Islam ?? you try to deceive everyone here ,it is almost insulting the way you acting,in your presentation,

    Pierre

    #269840
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2011,12:19)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,18:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2011,11:40)
    Hi BD,

    Do you deny that muslims are taught to behead Christians?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Yes, I deny that Muslims are taught to behead anyone except those they are fighting in war but these regions where people kill one another are not about Biblical or Quranic idea they are about cultural hatred

    When Jerusalem was conquered on the 15th of July 1099 by the Crusaders who were also known as the Christian Knights, more than 60,000 inhabitants, both Jewish and Muslim, were slaughtered in cold blood. In the words of one witness

    …there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes, and after that “happily and crying for joy” our people marched to our Saviour’s tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude.

    The Archbishop of Tyre, who was also an eye-witness, wrote that:

    It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished.

    http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archive….muslims


    bod

    we do not talking about wars ,and battles ,but about sadism in killing ,murders , genocides this was done to any people that did not accept Islam as master ,I have showed you the Koran verses

    that says to kill the unbelievers

    you are BIAS and you want us to have a good view toward Islam ?? you try to deceive everyone here ,it is almost insulting the way you acting,in your presentation,

    Pierre


    When Christian or Jews have killed each other weren,'t they believing in the same God?

    #269846
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 29 2011,11:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2011,11:40)
    Hi BD,

    Do you deny that muslims are taught to behead Christians?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Yes, I deny that Muslims are taught to behead anyone except those they are fighting in war but these regions where people kill one another are not about Biblical or Quranic idea they are about cultural hatred

    When Jerusalem was conquered on the 15th of July 1099 by the Crusaders who were also known as the Christian Knights, more than 60,000 inhabitants, both Jewish and Muslim, were slaughtered in cold blood. In the words of one witness

    …there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes, and after that “happily and crying for joy” our people marched to our Saviour’s tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude.

    The Archbishop of Tyre, who was also an eye-witness, wrote that:

    It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished.

    http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archive….muslims


    Hi BD,

    So you agree then, the quran teaches cultural hatred, right?

    B'shem
    YHV H

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