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  • #284811
    Ed J
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    Hi BD,

    Here watch this video, as it will teach you the difference between “Christianity” and 'islam'.

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #284853
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2012,20:33)
    Hi BD,

    Here watch this video, as it will teach you the difference between “Christianity” and 'islam'.

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    First of all I told you that Walid Shoebat doesn't know what he is talking about, second of all the person who gave him the verse did not say it would destroy his faith he said it will stop his rhetoric and third of all he believes that Jesus is God, fourth of all he makes an empty excuse for the very clear verse.

    Did you not even bother to review the video first?

    #284857
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Yep, he explained the verse very well. Did you not think so?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #286021
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2012,06:04)
    Hi BD,

    Yep, he explained the verse very well. Did you not think so?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    No, he did not, but if you believe he did that's fine

    #286064
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 19 2012,15:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2012,06:04)
    Hi BD,

    Yep, he explained the verse very well. Did you not think so?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    No, he did not, but if you believe he did that's fine


    Hi BD,

    You don't seem to agree with anyone's biblical explanations?
    Jesus', Paul's, Peter's, James, Mine, or any Christian for that matter.
    The only one you will believe seems to be the 'false prophet' of Rev.13:11.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #286077
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,04:48)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 19 2012,15:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2012,06:04)
    Hi BD,

    Yep, he explained the verse very well. Did you not think so?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    No, he did not, but if you believe he did that's fine


    Hi BD,

    You don't seem to agree with anyone's biblical explanations?
    Jesus', Paul's, Peter's, James, Mine, or any Christian for that matter.
    The only one you will believe seems to be the 'false prophet' of Rev.13:11.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    You need to divide your statement

    1. Who Jesus is, has been clarified in the Quran and I agree 100%

    2. James agrees can you show me a verse in James that calls Jesus the Son of God?

    3. I agree with Paul's explanations of why he does what he does I disagree with the ambiguous way he wrote in which it can fit into any mold.

    4. I have no problem with Peter I just understand that he would know the language and terms of the day and understand them, so what “you” read you take with a context and meaning that he never meant.

    5. I don't disagree with everything you say I disagree with your contention (with whatever you have no knowledge of) and your refusal to learn something new. I also HATE the fact that you ignore what Jesus instructed you to do in regards to your behaviour and the way you treat people you very well be the WORST Christian to represent God and yet you call yourself a witness but all I have witnessed in you is the ADVERSARY and the ACCUSER but I wish you do turn it around and be blessed.

    6. There are many Christians that I hold very dear and love speaking to them about God, even when someone knocks at my door I let them in and let them share. I love all people who love and anyone who is willing to LOVE that may by that LOVE come to God, I believe when you represent someone you should be a similitude of them and here comes a metaphor If I see an evil son what do you think I will think about the father so you see the point is ED that as it stands now If I believe in you I would have to stop believing in God and that's not an option so I will believe in God and believe in those I can see walk in the Spirit.

    7. Read revelations again Muhammad never asked to be worship or told anyone to worship anything besides God MOST HIGH. When did Muhammad make fire come out of the sky? When did Muhammad to instruct others to make an image of a beast that was struck in the head? When did Muhammad restrict trade to those who only had a Mark? See, now you should say “You are right, The info I gave cannot be correct” but instead you will most likely go about doing the same old false allegations bearing false witness. The worst Part is you willingly bear False witness in the Name of God declaring yourself as a witness it is like the worst form of hypocrisy

    #286096
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    You should be believing in God's word, but you have
    decided instead to make yourself the judge of God's word.   …this is NOT wise!     

    The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.


    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable
    for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” (2Tm.3:16)

    2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord (unto his crucifixion) is salvation;
    even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
    As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood,
    which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #286193
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,08:33)
    Hi BD,

    You should be believing in God's word, but you have
    decided instead to make yourself the judge of God's word.   …this is NOT wise!     

    The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.


    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable
    for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” (2Tm.3:16)

    2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord (unto his crucifixion) is salvation;
    even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
    As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood,
    which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    2 Timothy 2:15
    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Sounds like we are supposed to study which does not indicate BLIND BELIEF

    2 Timothy 3:16
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    Sounds like correcting you would not be considered an insult but a blessing

    #286249
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,15:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,08:33)
    Hi BD,

    You should be believing in God's word, but you have
    decided instead to make yourself the judge of God's word.   …this is NOT wise!     

    The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.


    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable
    for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” (2Tm.3:16)

    2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord (unto his crucifixion) is salvation;
    even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
    As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood,
    which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    2 Timothy 2:15
    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Sounds like we are supposed to study which does not indicate BLIND BELIEF

    2 Timothy 3:16
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    Sounds like correcting you would not be considered an insult but a blessing


    Hi BD,

    You mean like this verse…

    Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
    of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

    And how about a second…

    Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples,
    how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
    and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

    And here is a third…

    1 Cor 15:12-14 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead,
    how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
    But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
    And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

    How about a fourth…

    Rev 1:17-18 Fear not; I am the first and the last: and was dead; and,
    behold, I am alive for evermore
    , Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.


    “At the mouth of three witnesses,
    shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #286384
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,17:44)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 20 2012,15:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2012,08:33)
    Hi BD,

    You should be believing in God's word, but you have
    decided instead to make yourself the judge of God's word.   …this is NOT wise!     

    The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.


    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable
    for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” (2Tm.3:16)

    2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord (unto his crucifixion) is salvation;
    even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
    As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood,
    which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    2 Timothy 2:15
    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    Sounds like we are supposed to study which does not indicate BLIND BELIEF

    2 Timothy 3:16
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    Sounds like correcting you would not be considered an insult but a blessing


    Hi BD,

    You mean like this verse…

    Mark 8:31 And[Jesus] began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected
    of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

    And how about a second…

    Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples,
    how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders
    and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

    And here is a third…

    1 Cor 15:12-14 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead,
    how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
    But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
    And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

    How about a fourth…

    Rev 1:17-18 Fear not; I am the first and the last: and was dead; and,
    behold, I am alive for evermore
    , Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.


    “At the mouth of three witnesses,
    shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    Mark and Matthew are a witness to one scene the other two witnesses you provided were witness to spmething else

    1 Cor 15:12-14 is a witness to what was being preached it wasn't a witness of Christ making such a statement

    Rev 1:17-18 is a witness to a statement nade by someone you would have to assume from previous knowledge is Jesus

    and even if you look closer at Mark and Matthew, Mark says Jesus taught them
    the son of man” would go through these things and Matthew testifies Jesus “he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things” pnce again you have to assume the term “son of man” can only apply to Jesus.

    I am not even debating the points here I am just debating what is a good witness. the first to might fly in a courtroom the other 2 would not

    #286389
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Any excuse will do, huh?
    Is the 'false prophet' your god?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #286403
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,04:13)
    Hi BD,

    Any excuse will do, huh?
    Is the 'false prophet' your god?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    No ED, you are not my god.

    #286417
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Question: How do you tell God's Prophets form satans 'false prophet' Muhammad?

              Answer: There were no more Prophets after John the Baptist.

    Proof: Luke 16:16 The law the prophets were until John: since that time
                 the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

    Question: You don't know how to the difference between a prophet or a witness either?

    Answer:  Ed (Witness)
    Proof: עד (Joshua 22:34)

    #286420
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,08:21)
    Hi BD,

    Question: How do you tell God's Prophets form satans 'false prophet' Muhammad?

              Answer: There were no more Prophets after John the Baptist.

    Proof: Luke 16:16 The law the prophets were until John: since that time
                 the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

    Question: You don't know how to the difference between a prophet or a witness either?

    Answer:  Ed (Witness)
    Proof: עד (Joshua 22:34)


    ED

    Jesus was a Prophet after John

    Matthew 21:11
    And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.

    Mark 6:3-4

    King James Version (KJV)

    3Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

    4But Jesus, said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.

    You could have studied this first instead of embarrasing yourself. This is what I do I go to http://www.biblegateway.com/

    I search the subject matter by using select keywords such as in this case I typed in “Jesus Prophet” and it gave me the verses needed to dispute your unstudied and silly claim.

    Anyone here can go to that site before they post and get some background on the topic being addressed there are other such sites but this one is pretty good.

    #286428
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

           No more Prophets BD, Muhammad was a 'false prophet'!

    Luke 16:16 The law the prophets were until John: since that time
            the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

                     YHVH now tabernacles in his children:
    fulfilling the Prophecy in Ezekiel…      “I their inheritance” (Ezek 44:28)
    And again…       “as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them” (2 Cor 6:16)

    “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
    And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;” (Romans 8:16-17)

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #286438
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I think it is prophets of the law.
    Islam seems to be more about law than grace which is notable.

    To ignore the latter due to the former is not right.

    Galatians 3:1
    You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh?

    #286439
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 14 2012,09:05)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,15:47)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 12 2012,04:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2012,13:57)
    Hi Pierre, here is the promise of our God…

    Deuteronomy 7:21-25 Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible.
    And the LORD thy God will put out those nations before thee by little and little: thou mayest not consume them at once,
    lest the beasts of the field increase upon thee. But the LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them
    with a mighty destruction, until they be destroyed. And he shall deliver their kings into thine hand, and thou shalt destroy
    their (muslim) name from under heaven: there shall no man be able to stand before thee, until thou have destroyed them.
    The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire:

    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Ecl.9:12-16)


    You deceiving to a worldwide audience in behalf of ED J

    You shouldn't even talk about God anymore you keep inserting things in biblical text as if that is appropriate I could understand your rage when I corrected your usage of the 4 letters and how you considering yourself a witness of God did not even know that the original letters were YHWH I have hundreds of Jewish friends and believe me they know and you don't.

    You could have been a good servant of Christ and God but you instead chose to go a different route

    Psalm 78:56
    Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:

    You have done a great sin ED J and placed yourself as great and unwilling to take correction this is the state of your heart

    Isaiah 14:14
    I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    With the change of 1 single letter your whole divine theory fell apart:Perhaps you forsaking 1/4 of God's original name instead of acknowledging it means nothing to you

    Isaiah 44:24-25

    King James Version (KJV)

    24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

    25That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;


    Hi BD,

    You remind me of a little yappy dog that has no bite.
    And neither does the false god that you want to sick on me.

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    You are NOTHING LIKE CHRIST

    1 Peter 2:22-24

    King James Version (KJV)

    22Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

    23Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:


    so why was he chastened by the rod of man if he did no wrong as suggested in Samuel.

    which confuses the issue to where you are…

    according to the prophecy everything can be worked to righteousness…as long as everyone agrees he came. but the fact was he was punished an shut up! which points to obstruction without a penalty permutable…going on to win the game.

    which is why the jews will not see him as their messiah…he was defeated an was not heard when he drew the line in the dirt…to join Israel an judea as one that they might retrieve their inheritance n land…by obedience.

    whilst it doesn't work, the spoiler has a good grip on the rule book an advantage using the scripture…this is what you gain…when false winner accepted…an on going, going sour dispute…where God left it up in the air, admitting he may not be perfect!

    #286445
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,09:41)
    Hi BD,

           No more Prophets BD, Muhammad was a 'false prophet'!

    Luke 16:16 The law the prophets were until John: since that time
            the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

                     YHVH now tabernacles in his children:
    fulfilling the Prophecy in Ezekiel…      “I their inheritance” (Ezek 44:28)
    And again…       “as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them” (2 Cor 6:16)

    “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
    And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;” (Romans 8:16-17)

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    Are you saying Jesus was not a Prophet? are you also saying that revelation contains no prophecy? because the John that wrote revelation is not John the Baptist

    #286455
    charity
    Participant

    John the baptist could have come out of the grave at Jesus last breath.
    Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

    Mat 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

    (so scared they said sorry an then chased the christians into the hills an locked up the ones they caught)

    Mat 27:55 And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering unto him:
    Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children.

    (An then said the woman could not give testimony, an let the true offenders be accountable)

    Mat 27:57¶When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple:

    well I'll be darned, thats 14 disciples cards turned up. close your eyes shuffle an hand two cards back…

    #286539
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 21 2012,12:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,09:41)
    Hi BD,

           No more Prophets BD, Muhammad was a 'false prophet'!

    Luke 16:16 The law the prophets were until John: since that time
            the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

                     YHVH now tabernacles in his children:
    fulfilling the Prophecy in Ezekiel…      “I their inheritance” (Ezek 44:28)
    And again…       “as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them” (2 Cor 6:16)

    “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
    And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;” (Romans 8:16-17)

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    Are you saying Jesus was not a Prophet? are you also saying that revelation contains no prophecy? because the John that wrote revelation is not John the Baptist


    Hi BD,   (Daniel 2:44-47) (Joshua 22:34) (Joshua 22:21-23)

       You are running things through your corrupted understanding's
    filters, and you are not being able to understand God's “Bible Truth”
    .

           
            You just don't get! do you? I will explain once again,
            but you have hardened your heart so much the you
            may not be able to understand or accept it anyway.
            And please look up all these verses that I give you.

    Daniel the “Prophet” gave to Nebuchadnezzar the interpretation
    of his Dream by what was called the God of heaven. Christians
    call God father, because God Tabernacles inside all Christian
    believers
    . This is the meaning of THE “Kingdom of God.”

    Luke 16:16 The law the prophets were until John: since that time
    the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.


           The number 3.68421052631578947 was given to you(Asana Bodhitharta)
        to confirm to that the message is true and the interpretation thereof sure!
    (Link)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 21 2012,06:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 21 2012,04:13)
    Is the 'false prophet' your god?

    No ED, you are not my god.


           The SURE answer to your number riddle (that I gave you) is also called Prophecy,
        but Ed J is a child of and a “witness” of YHVH, being a “Son of God” (as was YÄ-shü-ă)
        rather than being just a Prophet as was John the Baptist, as all God's Prophets before him.


    Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    עד Ed (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

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