Just brought to my attention

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,15:33)

Hi BD, Are you trying to make Scripture argue with Scripture?    …this is not wise. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

Actually ED you are simply at a lost for words and understanding so you cannot answer.

Either Israel is His firstborn or not it's rather simple

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,22:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,15:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,22:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,15:15) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,21:57) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,14:33) bod but what you quote has nothing to do with what we were discus ,you escape ,run away,and you god Allah is not my almighty God father of Christ ,your god does not have a son he only as a false prophet a murderer ,liar I understand that you do not understand that God has no literal son but since you don't believe me is this true? Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: Is this true or false? bod now you make God almighty a liar ,Lk 3:21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened Lk 3:22 and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” so you are the evil one Representative,and willingly fight against God the father of Jesus Christ so you have pick your camp I asked you was exodus 4:22 true or false? What is your answer? “Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:” Is this TRUE? bod you do not understand what scriptures says ,you try to mix Israel first nation , family of people to be like his first son, and are you to mix it with a single son like Christ if so, stay with your pagan god ,it seems you  enjoy his relationship . I asked you was the statement true or false and you won't answer but what about this This was said about David: 8Now therefore so shalt thou say unto my servant David, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I took thee from the sheepcote, from following the sheep, to be ruler over my people, over Israel: 14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: Is this True or False?

bod

I try to ask you to tell me if your god HAL AH as a son ?yes or no

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,15:42)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,15:33) Hi BD, Are you trying to make Scripture argue with Scripture?    …this is not wise. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34) Actually ED you are simply at a lost for words and understanding so you cannot answer. Either Israel is His firstborn or not it's rather simple

Hi BD,

I told you “Israel” means “Prince with God”.
So of course “Israel” is the firstborn “Prince with God”.

You should make your understanding conform with all of Scripture.
But instead you foolishly try to make Scripture conform to your understanding.    …this is not wise.

B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,15:44)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,22:40) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,15:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,22:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,15:15) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,21:57) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,14:33) bod but what you quote has nothing to do with what we were discus ,you escape ,run away,and you god Allah is not my almighty God father of Christ ,your god does not have a son he only as a false prophet a murderer ,liar I understand that you do not understand that God has no literal son but since you don't believe me is this true? Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: Is this true or false? bod now you make God almighty a liar ,Lk 3:21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened Lk 3:22 and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” so you are the evil one Representative,and willingly fight against God the father of Jesus Christ so you have pick your camp I asked you was exodus 4:22 true or false? What is your answer? “Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:” Is this TRUE? bod you do not understand what scriptures says ,you try to mix Israel first nation , family of people to be like his first son, and are you to mix it with a single son like Christ if so, stay with your pagan god ,it seems you  enjoy his relationship . I asked you was the statement true or false and you won't answer but what about this This was said about David: 8Now therefore so shalt thou say unto my servant David, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I took thee from the sheepcote, from following the sheep, to be ruler over my people, over Israel: 14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: Is this True or False? bod I try to ask you to tell me if your god HAL AH as a son ?yes or no

I gues you will not answer and the truth is you cannot otherwise you would admit the truth that God does not have actual children, HE is not a human like you or I he doesn't need to have children. The term son is one of righteous servant and nothing more

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,15:56)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,15:42) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,15:33) Hi BD, Are you trying to make Scripture argue with Scripture?    …this is not wise. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34) Actually ED you are simply at a lost for words and understanding so you cannot answer. Either Israel is His firstborn or not it's rather simple Hi BD, I told you “Israel” means “Prince with God”. So of course “Israel” is the firstborn “Prince with God”. You should make your understanding conform with all of Scripture. But instead you foolishly try to make Scripture conform to your understanding.    …this is not wise. B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

Then Jesus cannot be the firstborn of God

God also called David and Solomon His son and they were Kings so you should do what you advised me to do and make your understanding conform with the scripture and realize that God calls His chosen righteous servants “Son” it is a calling not a literal fact.

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,23:48)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,15:44) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,22:40) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,15:28) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,22:18) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,15:15) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 08 2012,21:57) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,14:33) bod but what you quote has nothing to do with what we were discus ,you escape ,run away,and you god Allah is not my almighty God father of Christ ,your god does not have a son he only as a false prophet a murderer ,liar I understand that you do not understand that God has no literal son but since you don't believe me is this true? Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: Is this true or false? bod now you make God almighty a liar ,Lk 3:21 When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened Lk 3:22 and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” so you are the evil one Representative,and willingly fight against God the father of Jesus Christ so you have pick your camp I asked you was exodus 4:22 true or false? What is your answer? “Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:” Is this TRUE? bod you do not understand what scriptures says ,you try to mix Israel first nation , family of people to be like his first son, and are you to mix it with a single son like Christ if so, stay with your pagan god ,it seems you  enjoy his relationship . I asked you was the statement true or false and you won't answer but what about this This was said about David: 8Now therefore so shalt thou say unto my servant David, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I took thee from the sheepcote, from following the sheep, to be ruler over my people, over Israel: 14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: Is this True or False? bod I try to ask you to tell me if your god HAL AH as a son ?yes or no I gues you will not answer and the truth is you cannot otherwise you would admit the truth that God does not have actual children, HE is not a human like you or I he doesn't need to have children. The term son is one of righteous servant and nothing more

Bod

So you are a liar,against scriptures that is ,not your Koran book of lies

[terraricca]

Bod

You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell,

You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

                                                      Jesus is the only begotten “Son of God”.

John 3:17-20 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name
of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light,
because their deeds were evil.  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

          “He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1 John 2:22)

B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 09 2012,00:25)

Hi BD,                                                       Jesus is the only begotten “Son of God”. John 3:17-20 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.           “He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1 John 2:22) B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

EDJ

That is a good quote,good scriptures,

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:21)

Bod You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell, You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God

You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ but you don't understand Christ nor the Bible.

You cannot take it when the Bible explains something to you, instead of thinking to yourself “That makes sense” you think “I must ignore what it says”

When it says “Israel is my firstborn” you know that causes a problem for you with your understanding so instead you pretend I write the verses but they are in your Bible and GOD said it so how do you hear and not obey?

you do not care what God says you believe what you believe

If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.
( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #176)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,17:25)

Hi BD,                                                       Jesus is the only begotten “Son of God”. John 3:17-20 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.           “He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1 John 2:22) B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

ED

you are silly because you don't even understand what you are reading nobody is denying God and His Christ, I am saying you don't understand the use of the terms Father and son as being a metaphor, You deny the sonship of David, you deny the sonship of Solomon, you deny the sonship of even Adam so in all those cases you deny the Father and the Son.

The scripture says Israel is His FORSTBORN which would mean Jesus could not be God's only son but once you understand that the word begotten should not have beeen used then you could understand it to mean UNIQUE son.

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:21) Bod You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell, You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ but you don't understand Christ nor the Bible. You cannot take it when the Bible explains something to you, instead of thinking to yourself “That makes sense” you think “I must ignore what it says” When it says “Israel is my firstborn” you know that causes a problem for you with your understanding so instead you pretend I write the verses but they are in your Bible and GOD said it so how do you hear and not obey? you do not care what God says you believe what you believe If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.   (  سورة الأعراف  , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #176)

bod

Quote

You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ

you do not love Christ nor his father,because you do not obey his command

so we wait and see

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:05)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:21) Bod You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell, You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ but you don't understand Christ nor the Bible. You cannot take it when the Bible explains something to you, instead of thinking to yourself “That makes sense” you think “I must ignore what it says” When it says “Israel is my firstborn” you know that causes a problem for you with your understanding so instead you pretend I write the verses but they are in your Bible and GOD said it so how do you hear and not obey? you do not care what God says you believe what you believe If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.   (  سورة الأعراف  , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #176) bod Quote You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ you do not love Christ nor his father,because you do not obey his command so we wait and see

You talk more and think more about Jesus Christ than God Almighty you don't believe that God has the final say so always, you call Christ the servant greater than God his master and Jesus told you already that no servant is greater than his master but you raise the status of Christ to be far above God in this you may lose greatly because you violate the GLORY of GOD

Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Isaiah 48:10-11

King James Version (KJV)

10Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

11For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

You are so confused with the glory of Jesus and the Glory of God but here learn:

Isaiah 43:7
Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

God created Christ for His own glory and this is the Glory that Christ has with God

John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

ALL THE GLORY belongs to GOD

Matthew 6:13
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

You do not give all Glory to God you divide HIS Glory with his servant Jesus not realizing you are being disobedient for the Glory belongs to God alone.

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:34)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:21) Bod You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell, You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ but you don't understand Christ nor the Bible. You cannot take it when the Bible explains something to you, instead of thinking to yourself “That makes sense” you think “I must ignore what it says” When it says “Israel is my firstborn” you know that causes a problem for you with your understanding so instead you pretend I write the verses but they are in your Bible and GOD said it so how do you hear and not obey? you do not care what God says you believe what you believe If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.   (  سورة الأعراف  , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #176) bod Quote You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ you do not love Christ nor his father,because you do not obey his command so we wait and see You talk more and think more about Jesus Christ than God Almighty you don't believe that God has the final say so always, you call Christ the servant greater than God his master and Jesus told you already that no servant is greater than his master but you raise the status of Christ to be far above God in this you may lose greatly because you violate the GLORY of GOD Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 48:10-11 King James Version (KJV) 10Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. 11For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. You are so confused with the glory of Jesus and the Glory of God but here learn: Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. God created Christ for His own glory and this is the Glory that Christ has with God John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. ALL THE GLORY belongs to GOD Matthew 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. You do not give all Glory to God you divide HIS Glory with his servant Jesus not realizing you are being disobedient for the Glory belongs to God alone.

bod

I do not talk scriptures with you only the Koran

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:34) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:21) Bod You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell, You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ but you don't understand Christ nor the Bible. You cannot take it when the Bible explains something to you, instead of thinking to yourself “That makes sense” you think “I must ignore what it says” When it says “Israel is my firstborn” you know that causes a problem for you with your understanding so instead you pretend I write the verses but they are in your Bible and GOD said it so how do you hear and not obey? you do not care what God says you believe what you believe If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.   (  سورة الأعراف  , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #176) bod Quote You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ you do not love Christ nor his father,because you do not obey his command so we wait and see You talk more and think more about Jesus Christ than God Almighty you don't believe that God has the final say so always, you call Christ the servant greater than God his master and Jesus told you already that no servant is greater than his master but you raise the status of Christ to be far above God in this you may lose greatly because you violate the GLORY of GOD Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 48:10-11 King James Version (KJV) 10Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. 11For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. You are so confused with the glory of Jesus and the Glory of God but here learn: Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. God created Christ for His own glory and this is the Glory that Christ has with God John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. ALL THE GLORY belongs to GOD Matthew 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. You do not give all Glory to God you divide HIS Glory with his servant Jesus not realizing you are being disobedient for the Glory belongs to God alone. bod I do not talk scriptures with you only the Koran

Isn't it your duty to talk scriptures? Are you not a disciple of Christ?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,19:32)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:34) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:21) Bod You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell, You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ but you don't understand Christ nor the Bible. You cannot take it when the Bible explains something to you, instead of thinking to yourself “That makes sense” you think “I must ignore what it says” When it says “Israel is my firstborn” you know that causes a problem for you with your understanding so instead you pretend I write the verses but they are in your Bible and GOD said it so how do you hear and not obey? you do not care what God says you believe what you believe If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.   (  سورة الأعراف  , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #176) bod Quote You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ you do not love Christ nor his father,because you do not obey his command so we wait and see You talk more and think more about Jesus Christ than God Almighty you don't believe that God has the final say so always, you call Christ the servant greater than God his master and Jesus told you already that no servant is greater than his master but you raise the status of Christ to be far above God in this you may lose greatly because you violate the GLORY of GOD Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 48:10-11 King James Version (KJV) 10Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. 11For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. You are so confused with the glory of Jesus and the Glory of God but here learn: Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. God created Christ for His own glory and this is the Glory that Christ has with God John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. ALL THE GLORY belongs to GOD Matthew 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. You do not give all Glory to God you divide HIS Glory with his servant Jesus not realizing you are being disobedient for the Glory belongs to God alone. bod I do not talk scriptures with you only the Koran Isn't it your duty to talk scriptures? Are you not a disciple of Christ?

bod

you are an Muslim and you have it made clear to me that you do not want to follow Christ ,your Koran his your book

I have no obligation whatever if you would like to become one then it is different .

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,14:07)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,19:32) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:34) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:21) Bod You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell, You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ but you don't understand Christ nor the Bible. You cannot take it when the Bible explains something to you, instead of thinking to yourself “That makes sense” you think “I must ignore what it says” When it says “Israel is my firstborn” you know that causes a problem for you with your understanding so instead you pretend I write the verses but they are in your Bible and GOD said it so how do you hear and not obey? you do not care what God says you believe what you believe If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.   (  سورة الأعراف  , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #176) bod Quote You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ you do not love Christ nor his father,because you do not obey his command so we wait and see You talk more and think more about Jesus Christ than God Almighty you don't believe that God has the final say so always, you call Christ the servant greater than God his master and Jesus told you already that no servant is greater than his master but you raise the status of Christ to be far above God in this you may lose greatly because you violate the GLORY of GOD Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 48:10-11 King James Version (KJV) 10Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. 11For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. You are so confused with the glory of Jesus and the Glory of God but here learn: Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. God created Christ for His own glory and this is the Glory that Christ has with God John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. ALL THE GLORY belongs to GOD Matthew 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. You do not give all Glory to God you divide HIS Glory with his servant Jesus not realizing you are being disobedient for the Glory belongs to God alone. bod I do not talk scriptures with you only the Koran Isn't it your duty to talk scriptures? Are you not a disciple of Christ? bod you are an Muslim and you have it made clear to me that you do not want to follow Christ ,your Koran his your book I have no obligation whatever if you would like to become one then it is different .

Pierre I follow Christ through the door and go to God you stop at the door and worship Christ as God. Pierre Christ Jesus is the WAY not the destination you should GO to GOD not sit and be amazed at the WAY.

WAKE UP and LOVE GOD ALMIGHTY, your every post proves God is not your first love

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,23:13)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,14:07) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,19:32) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:34) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:21) Bod You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell, You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ but you don't understand Christ nor the Bible. You cannot take it when the Bible explains something to you, instead of thinking to yourself “That makes sense” you think “I must ignore what it says” When it says “Israel is my firstborn” you know that causes a problem for you with your understanding so instead you pretend I write the verses but they are in your Bible and GOD said it so how do you hear and not obey? you do not care what God says you believe what you believe If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.   (  سورة الأعراف  , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #176) bod Quote You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ you do not love Christ nor his father,because you do not obey his command so we wait and see You talk more and think more about Jesus Christ than God Almighty you don't believe that God has the final say so always, you call Christ the servant greater than God his master and Jesus told you already that no servant is greater than his master but you raise the status of Christ to be far above God in this you may lose greatly because you violate the GLORY of GOD Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 48:10-11 King James Version (KJV) 10Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. 11For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. You are so confused with the glory of Jesus and the Glory of God but here learn: Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. God created Christ for His own glory and this is the Glory that Christ has with God John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. ALL THE GLORY belongs to GOD Matthew 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. You do not give all Glory to God you divide HIS Glory with his servant Jesus not realizing you are being disobedient for the Glory belongs to God alone. bod I do not talk scriptures with you only the Koran Isn't it your duty to talk scriptures? Are you not a disciple of Christ? bod you are an Muslim and you have it made clear to me that you do not want to follow Christ ,your Koran his your book I have no obligation whatever if you would like to become one then it is different . Pierre I follow Christ through the door and go to God you stop at the door and worship Christ as God. Pierre Christ Jesus is the WAY not the destination you should GO to GOD not sit and be amazed at the WAY. WAKE UP and LOVE GOD ALMIGHTY, your every post proves God is not your first love

bod

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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2012,03:50)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,23:13) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,14:07) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,19:32) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,15:34) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,04:05) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2012,09:04) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 08 2012,17:21) Bod You have a pile of questions that you never addressed to me,but why would I answer a question that allows you to focus on me rather than you ?and your Koran that's what you try to sell, You know you do not like Christ you do not love my God and his God You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ but you don't understand Christ nor the Bible. You cannot take it when the Bible explains something to you, instead of thinking to yourself “That makes sense” you think “I must ignore what it says” When it says “Israel is my firstborn” you know that causes a problem for you with your understanding so instead you pretend I write the verses but they are in your Bible and GOD said it so how do you hear and not obey? you do not care what God says you believe what you believe If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog: if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.   (  سورة الأعراف  , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #176) bod Quote You simply could not answer the questions. I love Christ you do not love Christ nor his father,because you do not obey his command so we wait and see You talk more and think more about Jesus Christ than God Almighty you don't believe that God has the final say so always, you call Christ the servant greater than God his master and Jesus told you already that no servant is greater than his master but you raise the status of Christ to be far above God in this you may lose greatly because you violate the GLORY of GOD Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 48:10-11 King James Version (KJV) 10Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction. 11For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another. You are so confused with the glory of Jesus and the Glory of God but here learn: Isaiah 43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. God created Christ for His own glory and this is the Glory that Christ has with God John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. ALL THE GLORY belongs to GOD Matthew 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. You do not give all Glory to God you divide HIS Glory with his servant Jesus not realizing you are being disobedient for the Glory belongs to God alone. bod I do not talk scriptures with you only the Koran Isn't it your duty to talk scriptures? Are you not a disciple of Christ? bod you are an Muslim and you have it made clear to me that you do not want to follow Christ ,your Koran his your book I have no obligation whatever if you would like to become one then it is different . Pierre I follow Christ through the door and go to God you stop at the door and worship Christ as God. Pierre Christ Jesus is the WAY not the destination you should GO to GOD not sit and be amazed at the WAY. WAKE UP and LOVE GOD ALMIGHTY, your every post proves God is not your first love bod follow Christ in a Muslim way

Worship GOD by Following the Way,Truth and Life of Christ who submitted to God completely no one comes to the Father except that they come as Christ did surrendering his WILL saying instead “GOD WILLING”

John 9:31
Now we know that God h
eareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

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question ;could the HEBREW worship their GOD the way of the gentiles ??

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