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[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,06:42)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:00) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,03:25) Hi BD, All scripture is true, what is false is what you say it means! B'shem YHVH I'm glad you agree it is True, now what do you think Jesus means when he says plainly: “how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?” what is that “code” for because it wasn't a parable so what did he mean? Hi BD, no, but this is… Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die (Jesus=74), it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much “fruit”=74. (John 12:24) B'shem YHVH

you just read Luke 11:13 so that issue should be put to rest

Jesus did not put a condition on receiving the Holy Spirit he simply said Ask and it shall be given

You as always don't believe in what the verse says so you have to make up a way around it but you can believe it the way you want because as Jesus said:

Luke 17:37

New International Version (NIV)

37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.

He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”

It's interesting how some translations use the word Eagle and some use Vulture

You most certainly are a vulture

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,09:07)

You most certainly are a vulture

Hi BD,

Revelation 19:17-21 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice,
saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together
unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains,
and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh
of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth,
and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he
deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both
were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the remnant were slain with the sword of him
that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

B'shem
YHVH

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,06:41)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:00) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,03:25) Hi BD, All scripture is true, what is false is what you say it means! B'shem YHVH I'm glad you agree it is True, now what do you think Jesus means when he says plainly: “how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?” what is that “code” for because it wasn't a parable so what did he mean? Hi BD, How is anyone going to ask for the “HolySpirit”, if they do not accept Jesus ransom sacrifice? Look very carefully at this Scripture, since you NOW agree with me that ALL Scripture is true… John 16:7-15 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away(be crucified): for if I go not away(die not on the cross), the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart(die), I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he(HolySpirit) will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. All things that [God the Father] hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you. B'shem YHVH

BD?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,09:41)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 30 2012,09:07) You most certainly are a vulture Hi BD, Revelation 19:17-21 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. B'shem YHVH

I guess you didn't get what I was saying but it certainly had nothing to do with revelation

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH!

B'shem
YHVH

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39)

Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH

Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”?

Luke 17:37

New International Version (NIV)

37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.

He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

Hardly.

B'shem
YHVH

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”

Bod

Do you understand what Jesus said in verse 37??

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:59)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Bod Do you understand what Jesus said  in verse 37??

It means what it says. In other words if he dies many will gather over him. The entire growth of Christianity is based upon the preaching of Christ crucified

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:44)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Bod Do you understand what Jesus said  in verse 37?? It means what it says. In other words if he dies many will gather over him. The entire growth of Christianity is based upon the preaching of Christ crucified

Bod

So according to you we all are vultures right ?

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,20:20)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:44) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Bod Do you understand what Jesus said  in verse 37?? It means what it says. In other words if he dies many will gather over him. The entire growth of Christianity is based upon the preaching of Christ crucified Bod So according to you we all are vultures right ? Pierre

You were attracted to your religion because it was explained to you that someone died so that you can live. Vultures and scavangers eat what is dead so that they can live.

This is not really an insult it is simply the mindset of the Christian who truly believes that their life is only possible because of the death of Jesus. They believe that if Jesus did not die they will have no salvation no matter what.

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,11:23)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,20:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:44) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Bod Do you understand what Jesus said  in verse 37?? It means what it says. In other words if he dies many will gather over him. The entire growth of Christianity is based upon the preaching of Christ crucified Bod So according to you we all are vultures right ? Pierre You were attracted to your religion because it was explained to you that someone died so that you can live. Vultures and scavangers eat what is dead so that they can live. This is not really an insult it is simply the mindset of the Christian who truly believes that their life is only possible because of the death of Jesus. They believe that if Jesus did not die they will have no salvation no matter what.

bod

this is according to Bod interpretation of Christ words ,and so Bod thinks that he as enlightenment in scriptures ??

man can you be wrong ;your carnal view shows you are a dead body,

but now who are the vultures ??

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2012,05:31)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,11:23) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,20:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:44) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Bod Do you understand what Jesus said  in verse 37?? It means what it says. In other words if he dies many will gather over him. The entire growth of Christianity is based upon the preaching of Christ crucified Bod So according to you we all are vultures right ? Pierre You were attracted to your religion because it was explained to you that someone died so that you can live. Vultures and scavangers eat what is dead so that they can live. This is not really an insult it is simply the mindset of the Christian who truly believes that their life is only possible because of the death of Jesus. They believe that if Jesus did not die they will have no salvation no matter what. bod     this is according to Bod interpretation of Christ words ,and so Bod thinks that he as enlightenment in scriptures ?? man can you be wrong ;your carnal view shows you are   a dead body, but now who are the vultures ?? Pierre

Pierre

How was I wrong? Isn't it your belief that if Jesus was not put to death you would have no salvation?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2012,14:31)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2012,05:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,11:23) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,20:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:44) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Bod Do you understand what Jesus said  in verse 37?? It means what it says. In other words if he dies many will gather over him. The entire growth of Christianity is based upon the preaching of Christ crucified Bod So according to you we all are vultures right ? Pierre You were attracted to your religion because it was explained to you that someone died so that you can live. Vultures and scavangers eat what is dead so that they can live. This is not really an insult it is simply the mindset of the Christian who truly believes that their life is only possible because of the death of Jesus. They believe that if Jesus did not die they will have no salvation no matter what. bod     this is according to Bod interpretation of Christ words ,and so Bod thinks that he as enlightenment in scriptures ?? man can you be wrong ;your carnal view shows you are   a dead body, but now who are the vultures ?? Pierre Pierre How was I wrong? Isn't it your belief that if Jesus was not put to death you would have no salvation?

bod

that was not the question ,so answer my question ;who are the vultures

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2012,07:32)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2012,14:31) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2012,05:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,11:23) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,20:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:44) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Bod Do you understand what Jesus said  in verse 37?? It means what it says. In other words if he dies many will gather over him. The entire growth of Christianity is based upon the preaching of Christ crucified Bod So according to you we all are vultures right ? Pierre You were attracted to your religion because it was explained to you that someone died so that you can live. Vultures and scavangers eat what is dead so that they can live. This is not really an insult it is simply the mindset of the Christian who truly believes that their life is only possible because of the death of Jesus. They believe that if Jesus did not die they will have no salvation no matter what. bod     this is according to Bod interpretation of Christ words ,and so Bod thinks that he as enlightenment in scriptures ?? man can you be wrong ;your carnal view shows you are   a dead body, but now who are the vultures ?? Pierre Pierre How was I wrong? Isn't it your belief that if Jesus was not put to death you would have no salvation? bod that was not the question ,so answer my question ;who are the vultures Pierre

The vultures are thse who feed off the dead body of Christ

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2012,14:34)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2012,07:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2012,14:31) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2012,05:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,11:23) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,20:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:44) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Bod Do you understand what Jesus said  in verse 37?? It means what it says. In other words if he dies many will gather over him. The entire growth of Christianity is based upon the preaching of Christ crucified Bod So according to you we all are vultures right ? Pierre You were attracted to your religion because it was explained to you that someone died so that you can live. Vultures and scavangers eat what is dead so that they can live. This is not really an insult it is simply the mindset of the Christian who truly believes that their life is only possible because of the death of Jesus. They believe that if Jesus did not die they will have no salvation no matter what. bod     this is according to Bod interpretation of Christ words ,and so Bod thinks that he as enlightenment in scriptures ?? man can you be wrong ;your carnal view shows you are   a dead body, but now who are the vultures ?? Pierre Pierre How was I wrong? Isn't it your belief that if Jesus was not put to death you would have no salvation? bod that was not the question ,so answer my question ;who are the vultures Pierre The vultures are thse who feed off the dead body of Christ

bod

I all ready told you who are the dead bodies so can you tell me who are the vultures ,??

and NO they are not Christians for sure,

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2012,07:55)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2012,14:34) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2012,07:32) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2012,14:31) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2012,05:31) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,11:23) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,20:20) Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 04 2012,01:44) Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2012,17:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 31 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,20:39) Hi BD, Exactly, islam has NOTHING to do with the bible or YHVH! B'shem YHVH Wow! Now you starting to call Bible verses “Islam”? Luke 17:37 New International Version (NIV) 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.  He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.” Bod Do you understand what Jesus said  in verse 37?? It means what it says. In other words if he dies many will gather over him. The entire growth of Christianity is based upon the preaching of Christ crucified Bod So according to you we all are vultures right ? Pierre You were attracted to your religion because it was explained to you that someone died so that you can live. Vultures and scavangers eat what is dead so that they can live. This is not really an insult it is simply the mindset of the Christian who truly believes that their life is only possible because of the death of Jesus. They believe that if Jesus did not die they will have no salvation no matter what. bod     this is according to Bod interpretation of Christ words ,and so Bod thinks that he as enlightenment in scriptures ?? man can you be wrong ;your carnal view shows you are   a dead body, but now who are the vultures ?? Pierre Pierre How was I wrong? Isn't it your belief that if Jesus was not put to death you would have no salvation? bod that was not the question ,so answer my question ;who are the vultures Pierre The vultures are thse who feed off the dead body of Christ bod I all ready told you who are the dead bodies so can you tell me who are the vultures ,?? and NO they are not Christians for sure, Pierre

The Christians promised to eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ if they do this to the dead Christ they are vultures if they do this with the living Christ they are not

[terraricca]

bod

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The Christians promised to eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ if they do this to the dead Christ they are vultures if they do this with the living Christ they are not

wrong answer Christ was only dead for a fraction of time so this is not the right answer ,so try again, but it as to be based on scriptures because those words comes out of the bible ,

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2012,09:45)

bod Quote The Christians promised to eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ if they do this to the dead Christ they are vultures if they do this with the living Christ they are not wrong answer Christ was only dead for a fraction of time so this is not the right answer ,so try again, but it as to be based on scriptures because those words comes out of the bible , Pierre

Yes, and you believe that Christ being dead for a tiny fraction of time gave you eternal salvation, right?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Feb. 05 2012,18:35)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 05 2012,09:45) bod Quote The Christians promised to eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ if they do this to the dead Christ they are vultures if they do this with the living Christ they are not wrong answer Christ was only dead for a fraction of time so this is not the right answer ,so try again, but it as to be based on scriptures because those words comes out of the bible , Pierre Yes, and you believe that Christ being dead for a tiny fraction of time gave you eternal salvation, right?

bod

were you get those believes ??

this is not a sacrifice for deliverance,or salvation ,

and you told me you were Christian before you got to be a Muslim ??

what kind of Christian were you ?? or did you really were one I mean a true one I do not think so ,

Pierre

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