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    bodhitharta
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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2012,19:30)
    Hi BD,

    Do you not comprehend what I said?
    Or are you so fixated on falsehood that
    you have shut your ears? (see Matt.13:15)

    Matt.13:15 For this (Arabic) people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and
    their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears,
    and should understand with their heart, and should be converted (to Christianity), and I should heal them.

    B'shem
    YHVh


    DID Jesus die on the Cross (Hangeth on a tree)? If so you believe he IS CURSED and was made a CURSE

    I am not arabic so pay close attention in English:

    The scripture says

    Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree

    IS JESUS Cursed? YES or NO

    #274577
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2012,03:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2012,19:30)
    Hi BD,

    Do you not comprehend what I said?
    Or are you so fixated on falsehood that
    you have shut your ears? (see Matt.13:15)

    Matt.13:15 For this (Arabic) people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and
    their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears,
    and should understand with their heart, and should be converted (to Christianity), and I should heal them.

    B'shem
    YHVh


    DID Jesus die on the Cross (Hangeth on a tree)? If so you believe he IS CURSED and was made a CURSE

    I am not arabic so pay close attention in English:

    The scripture says

    Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree

    IS JESUS Cursed? YES or NO


    Hi BD

    Gal 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:
    for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might
    come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
    You're spinning your wheels, BD; drop the 'book of fraud', it has only turned you away from (YHVH) the true God!

    Jesus has taken away  ‘the curse’  from Christians!

    The verse doesn't say that he is accursed, it means that he took the curse away. (See Rev.22:3)
    Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb
    shall be in [the HolyCity]; and his servants shall serve him(YHVH): (see Isaiah 60:14)

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #274620
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2012,18:53)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2012,03:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2012,19:30)
    Hi BD,

    Do you not comprehend what I said?
    Or are you so fixated on falsehood that
    you have shut your ears? (see Matt.13:15)

    Matt.13:15 For this (Arabic) people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and
    their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears,
    and should understand with their heart, and should be converted (to Christianity), and I should heal them.

    B'shem
    YHVh


    DID Jesus die on the Cross (Hangeth on a tree)? If so you believe he IS CURSED and was made a CURSE

    I am not arabic so pay close attention in English:

    The scripture says

    Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree

    IS JESUS Cursed? YES or NO


    Hi BD

    Gal 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:
    for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might
    come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
    You're spinning your wheels, BD; drop the 'book of fraud', it has only turned you away from (YHVH) the true God!

    Jesus has taken away  ‘the curse’  from Christians!

    The verse doesn't say that he is accursed, it means that he took the curse away. (See Rev.22:3)
    Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb
    shall be in [the HolyCity]; and his servants shall serve him(YHVH): (see Isaiah 60:14)

    B'shem
    YHVH


    So “being made a curse” doesn't mean “being made a curse”?

    And “cursed is everyone who hangeth from a tree” doesn't mean “cursed is everyone hanging from a tree”

    I am glad that you cannot bear to say that Christ is or was cursed no matter what you clearly read because by you saying he “took away the curse” You are starting to understand that the Scapegoat is not killed nor can it be it must be presented before Jehovah ALIVE and not as a Killed Sacrifice.

    I am glad that you can't manage to say Jesus is cursed for hanging from a tree because your heart won't let you say it because deep down you don't want Jesus on that Cross any more than I did but don't worry ED because Jesus was/is not cursed because he was not killed or crucified

    But if you still believe Jesus was crucified then you must believe that he is cursed according to the scriptures

    Galatians 3:13
    Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

    #274639
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,03:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2012,18:53)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2012,03:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2012,19:30)
    Hi BD,

    Do you not comprehend what I said?
    Or are you so fixated on falsehood that
    you have shut your ears? (see Matt.13:15)

    Matt.13:15 For this (Arabic) people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and
    their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears,
    and should understand with their heart, and should be converted (to Christianity), and I should heal them.

    B'shem
    YHVh


    DID Jesus die on the Cross (Hangeth on a tree)? If so you believe he IS CURSED and was made a CURSE

    I am not arabic so pay close attention in English:

    The scripture says

    Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree

    IS JESUS Cursed? YES or NO


    Hi BD

    Gal 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:
    for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might
    come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
    You're spinning your wheels, BD; drop the 'book of fraud', it has only turned you away from (YHVH) the true God!

    Jesus has taken away  ‘the curse’  from Christians!

    The verse doesn't say that he is accursed, it means that he took the curse away. (See Rev.22:3)
    Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb
    shall be in [the HolyCity]; and his servants shall serve him(YHVH): (see Isaiah 60:14)

    B'shem
    YHVH


    I am glad that you can't manage to say Jesus is cursed for hanging from a tree
    because your heart won't let you say it because deep down you don't want Jesus on that Cross
    any more than I did but don't worry ED because Jesus was/is not cursed because he was not killed or crucified


    Hi BD,

    Proving  ‘islam is FALSE’  …the Crucifixion account explained

    islam rejects vicarious salvation,

    but accepts it at the same time.   …WHAT HYPOCRISY!

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #274650
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    ED is Jesus your Lord or is YHVH your Lord?

    #274678
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,05:28)

      ED is Jesus your Lord or is YHVH your Lord?


    Hi BD,

    Is your memory that bad, or are you just trying to be deceptive like your false prophet?
    You ask this same question in almost every thread you start; so here's my answer again…

    First:  [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā translates directly into English as YHVH. (AKJV Bible: JEHOVAH)
    Secondly:  [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă translates directly into English as Joshua. (AKJV Bible: Jesus)

    [אדני]  Âdônây in Hebrew means: “Lord” or “Owner” and is akin to
    [Κύριος]  kü-rē-ŏs in Greek meaning “The Same”: “Lord” or “Owner”

    “YOU” CANNOT argue with this “Bible Truth”! (LORD: means Owner)
    I will orchestrate my explanation around the term “Owner”.
    The AKJV Bible uses: Lord for [יהשוע] & LORD for [יהוה].

             The Same issue: A Closer Examination

    Technically Jesus is: “owner” but NOT “THE OWNER”!
    Lord is more easily understood using the word “Owner”!

    Jehovah is: “The Owner”, and Jesus is: The Son of “The Owner”.
    Jehovah CANNOT DIE, so Jehovah will ALWAYS remain “The Owner”!
    A Son can 'only' become become fully “The Owner” if the Parent dies,
    which in JEHOVAH's case cannot happen; because GOD CANNOT DIE!

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #274699
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,09:25)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 28 2012,05:28)

      ED is Jesus your Lord or is YHVH your Lord?


    Hi BD,

    Is your memory that bad, or are you just trying to be deceptive like your false prophet?
    You ask this same question in almost every thread you start; so here's my answer again…

    First:  [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā translates directly into English as YHVH. (AKJV Bible: JEHOVAH)
    Secondly:  [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă translates directly into English as Joshua. (AKJV Bible: Jesus)

    [אדני]  Âdônây in Hebrew means: “Lord” or “Owner” and is akin to
    [Κύριος]  kü-rē-ŏs in Greek meaning “The Same”: “Lord” or “Owner”

    “YOU” CANNOT argue with this “Bible Truth”! (LORD: means Owner)
    I will orchestrate my explanation around the term “Owner”.
    The AKJV Bible uses: Lord for [יהשוע] & LORD for [יהוה].

             The Same issue: A Closer Examination

    Technically Jesus is: “owner” but NOT “THE OWNER”!
    Lord is more easily understood using the word “Owner”!

    Jehovah is: “The Owner”, and Jesus is: The Son of “The Owner”.
    Jehovah CANNOT DIE, so Jehovah will ALWAYS remain “The Owner”!
    A Son can 'only' become become fully “The Owner” if the Parent dies,
    which in JEHOVAH's case cannot happen; because GOD CANNOT DIE!

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Then the only TRUE owner is YHVH because HE even owns Jesus correct?

    #274707
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Does ‘your’ father own you?

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #274710
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Hosea 2:16-17 And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali.
    For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #274715
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,10:56)
    Hi BD,

    Does ‘your’ father own you?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    John 3:3
    Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

    Matthew 23:9
    And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

    My Lord is God Almighty who is The Lord of The Heavens and Earth.

    Matthew 11:25
    At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

    God Almighty is more than a Father or Mother

    O ye people! Adore your Guardian-lord, who created you and those who came before you, that ye may have the chance to learn righteousness;
    ( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #21)

    #274789
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    1Cor.6:19-20 Know ye not that your body is the temple of the HolySpirit which is in you,
    which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price:
    therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

    This ONLY occurs AFTER you accept Jesus' ransom sacrifice, and
    are filled with the “HolySpirit” of God; your own personal “Pentecost”!

    Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one
    of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
    and ye shall receive the gift of the HolySpirit.

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #274845
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:59)
    Hi BD,

    1Cor.6:19-20 Know ye not that your body is the temple of the HolySpirit which is in you,
    which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price:
    therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

    This ONLY occurs AFTER you accept Jesus' ransom sacrifice, and
    are filled with the “HolySpirit” of God; your own personal “Pentecost”!

    Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one
    of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
    and ye shall receive the gift of the HolySpirit.

    B'shem
    YHVH


    You really don't read the scriptures at all do you? The Holy Spirit has always been a gift for those who draw close to God
    John the baptist had the Holy Spirit in the womb plus many, many others are mentioned having the Holy Spirit so it is a complete LIE to say that you can ONLY be filled with the Holy Spirit after you accept Jesus' ransom sacrifice.

    Now learn ED:

    Luke 11:13
    If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

    Did you see that ED? NO SACRIFICE NEEDED you can actually just ask. You see you don't have to LIE because LEARNING is better so now you should never repeat that misinformation again, If you do then you are trying to mislead others on purpose and you will be judged for that in this world and the next(God willing)

    #274859
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,01:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:59)
    Hi BD,

    1Cor.6:19-20 Know ye not that your body is the temple of the HolySpirit which is in you,
    which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price:
    therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

    This ONLY occurs AFTER you accept Jesus' ransom sacrifice, and
    are filled with the “HolySpirit” of God; your own personal “Pentecost”!

    Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one
    of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
    and ye shall receive the gift of the HolySpirit.

    B'shem
    YHVH


    You really don't read the scriptures at all do you? The Holy Spirit has always been a gift for those who draw close to God
    John the baptist had the Holy Spirit in the womb plus many, many others are mentioned having the Holy Spirit so it is a complete LIE to say that you can ONLY be filled with the Holy Spirit after you accept Jesus' ransom sacrifice.

    Now learn ED:

    Luke 11:13
    If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

    Did you see that ED? NO SACRIFICE NEEDED you can actually just ask. You see you don't have to LIE because LEARNING is better so now you should never repeat that misinformation again, If you do then you are trying to mislead others on purpose and you will be judged for that in this world and the next(God willing)


    Hi BD,

    Clearly it is YOU do not yet understand the truth of this!
    Have you ever done a study of the seven feasts of YHVH?

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #274863
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,02:35)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,01:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2012,16:59)
    Hi BD,

    1Cor.6:19-20 Know ye not that your body is the temple of the HolySpirit which is in you,
    which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price:
    therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

    This ONLY occurs AFTER you accept Jesus' ransom sacrifice, and
    are filled with the “HolySpirit” of God; your own personal “Pentecost”!

    Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one
    of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
    and ye shall receive the gift of the HolySpirit.

    B'shem
    YHVH


    You really don't read the scriptures at all do you? The Holy Spirit has always been a gift for those who draw close to God
    John the baptist had the Holy Spirit in the womb plus many, many others are mentioned having the Holy Spirit so it is a complete LIE to say that you can ONLY be filled with the Holy Spirit after you accept Jesus' ransom sacrifice.

    Now learn ED:

    Luke 11:13
    If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

    Did you see that ED? NO SACRIFICE NEEDED you can actually just ask. You see you don't have to LIE because LEARNING is better so now you should never repeat that misinformation again, If you do then you are trying to mislead others on purpose and you will be judged for that in this world and the next(God willing)


    Hi BD,

    Clearly it is YOU do not yet understand the truth of this!
    Have you ever done a study of the seven feasts of YHVH?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Have your just read Luke 11:13? If so that issue should be put to rest if you are not being full of mischief trying to put a self created theology over the simple truth, I know you have worked hard on some of your insights but what I just showed you was PLAIN SIGHT so see and accept it.

    #274875
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    I see you are not ready to learn.   …oh well, you can stay lost if you want.
    Please do ask questions when you are ready to learn; OK?

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #274879
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,03:15)
    Hi BD,

    I see you are not ready to learn.   …oh well, you can stay lost if you want.
    Please do ask questions when you are ready to learn; OK?

    B'shem
    YHVH


    Is Luke 11:13 True or False?

    #274884
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    All scripture is true, what is false is what you say it means!

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #274902
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,03:25)
    Hi BD,

    All scripture is true, what is false is what you say it means!

    B'shem
    YHVH


    I'm glad you agree it is True, now what do you think Jesus means when he says plainly:

    “how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?”

    what is that “code” for because it wasn't a parable so what did he mean?

    #275052
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,03:25)
    Hi BD,

    All scripture is true, what is false is what you say it means!

    B'shem
    YHVH


    I'm glad you agree it is True, now what do you think Jesus means when he says plainly:

    “how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?”

    what is that “code” for because it wasn't a parable so what did he mean?


    Hi BD,

    How is anyone going to ask for the “HolySpirit”, if they do not accept Jesus ransom sacrifice?
    Look very carefully at this Scripture, since you NOW agree with me that ALL Scripture is true…

    John 16:7-15 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away(be crucified):
    for if I go not away(die not on the cross), the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart(die),

    I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness,
    and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father,

    and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things
    to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he(HolySpirit)
    will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak:

    and he will show you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.
    All things that [God the Father] hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

    B'shem
    YHVH

    #275053
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 29 2012,06:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,03:25)
    Hi BD,

    All scripture is true, what is false is what you say it means!

    B'shem
    YHVH


    I'm glad you agree it is True, now what do you think Jesus means when he says plainly:

    “how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?”

    what is that “code” for because it wasn't a parable so what did he mean?


    Hi BD, no, but this is…

    Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die (Jesus=74),
    it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much “fruit”=74. (John 12:24)

    B'shem
    YHVH

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