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Hi Davidl,
The empty deception you speak about you are currently being faithful to.
Reject what is of man.
God indeed dwelled in His Son.
The Father wants you to receive His Son, Jesus Christ…
This is what we teach. But you teach that the Father of God wants us to believe that the Son of God and the Spirit of God is the one and same God.
Let’s be real about this. It is more gobbledy gook from Babletown.
How did you become a Christian t8…?
was it by logic – or was it by revelation…?
so why revert back to relying on logic..?
truth is revealed by the Spirit alone..?
logic only deceives and misleads…!
(There is a way that SEEMS right, but…)
@DavidL, reading and teaching what scripture teaches may or may not be logical from our understanding. But it is true and we should love the truth.
“For us, there is one God the Father”. Yes there is a certain logic to that when I think about it, but more importantly, it is true.
I teach these scriptures. In many cases, I am really just quoting them. So attacking me over this is futile, but it does show us your heart. What possess you to attack this and other central truths of the faith? What do you expect to gain from this behaviour?
How did you become a Christian t8…?
was it by logic – or was it by revelation…?
Hi David L,
For me it was by logic. Would you like to know why?
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”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODSo attacking me over this is futile
was just asking you a question t8 – How did you become a Christian..?
what made you realize Jesus was true..?
DavidL,
logic only deceives and misleads
This statement is an untruth and accuses Jesus of sin for Jesus used logic. So, do you not read where he uses logic to prove that Abraham and Isaac are alive despite the fact their body is dead. Do you fail to understand that Paul reasoned in the marketplace of Athens just as Scripture states. Do you instead condemn what you do not understand and in doing so condemn the actions of Jesus and his servant Paul, as well as the actions of other righteous humans.
Nowhere in Scripture is logic condemned. Those that condemn it are serving the Devil at the time they condemn it. They condemn it only because they are afraid it will reveal their words as being false. Don’t you desire to be free of their number?
DavidL,
The false prophets have always claimed that their words were revealed to them by God. If their words are soothing to the itching ears of those who do not seek God’s righteousness then they are accepted as men while the true prophets are not.
The false teachers are still doing the same and those love darkness are still doing the same.
Those who are inspired by God will seek his righteousness because it is their food and drink.
The Pharisees interpreted the letter of the Law and ignored the spirit of the Law.
In other words, they observed the outward appearance and ignored the heart.The only true God is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Father is his God and our God. Jesus is the son of God and the Messiah. This is the letter and the spirit as it was revealed by the Father and not flesh and blood.
Flesh and blood as well as demon reveal other things like the Trinity.
If the Father revealed that Jesus is the son of God and the Messiah, and if this was commended by Jesus himself, then why don’t you listen to him yourself. Peter was blessed by this statement, and you can be too.
HI Kerwin
This statement is an untruth and accuses Jesus of sin for Jesus used logic. So, do you not read where he uses logic to prove that Abraham and Isaac are alive despite the fact their body is dead. Do you fail to understand that Paul reasoned in the marketplace of Athens just as Scripture states. Do you instead condemn what you do not understand and in doing so condemn the actions of Jesus and his servant Paul, as well as the actions of other righteous humans.
Nowhere in Scripture is logic condemned. Those that condemn it are serving the Devil at the time they condemn it. They condemn it only because they are afraid it will reveal their words as being false. Don’t you desire to be free of their number?
Very solid and true statement but you have to understand condemning your logic excuses the person from thinking as I said “they don’t WANT to work it out” and you are 100% correct it will reveal their entire process lacking but it is like someone who gets really fat so fat you just accept that it is normal or okay, now I’m not condemning being fat but the process is similar you will magically have “big Bones” or “slow metabolism” or some other disproven theory when the fact is much more simple and when you take the time to work it out, you might be honest enough to say it took a long time to get this fat and it’s going to take a massive amount of work and a reduction in calories and even a change in what I eat but to do that you have to be able to face “the wasted years” most people who want to change something have this type of guilt that disables them from moving forward it’s like you don’t want to get to a point where you say “damn I was really being stupid or wasting my life” so you just keep doing what you are already doing, that’s why almost no one can have a breakthrough here or even all the friends you know so when you do see that 1 friend who has had a breakthrough you become amazed but the fact is they just got honest with themselves
t8
If the Father revealed that Jesus is the son of God and the Messiah, and if this was commended by Jesus himself, then why don’t you listen to him yourself.
Yes – listen to what the Son has said – “I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.”
Eternal life is found where..? in the Father alone…??
No, “This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”
..eternal life is in knowing the Father AND the Son, together..!! (ONE)
“That they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.” (I and the Father are One).
(a verse that’s really about the unity of the saints on earth baring testimony to the reality of Jesus Christ – yet because of your false teachings you have ironically created the very ‘Babylon’ you warn others to escape from..!!)
…see how you cherry-pick the words of Jesus in an attempt to justify your own anti-trinity doctrine… but in so doing you are, in fact, actually denying the very testimony of Jesus Christ Himself – replacing the inspired Word with your own rags of human interpretation..
“No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.” – 1 John 2:23
As I have pointed out to you before Nick, if the Oneness Jesus spoke of was just being ‘one in the Spirit’, then others also should be able to say the things Christ said…
Yet who is there that can say, “I and the Father are One.” ..?
Who can say, “If you’ve seen Me you’ve seen the Father.”..?
or again, “Before Abraham was born, I AM.”…?
If Jesus was simply just another man who was used of the Spirit, then please reveal what prophet or apostle could ever say these things He said…?
Hi davidl,
Indeed Jesus is one in the Spirit with the Father, as we can be too.
To see the Son is to see the Father IN HIM as Thomas discovered.
The Word was with God in the beginning so before Abraham.
Have you heard the voice of the Spirit in Jesus yet?
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