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Hi Ed,
Yes it has some value in bridging the gap to natural unsaved men.
But it is not the language of the spiritual.
Ed,
First and unrelated the word “Jesus” is a Koine Greek translation of “Yawheh is Salvation” and not a meaningless group of sounds.
Jesus was given that name soon after his birth.
He was given the name that was above every other name after he chose to sacrifice himself for the whole world.
So that name that is above all other names is not literally The Lord is Salvation but rather it is Lord of all things in heaven and on earth.
As the result of him being given that name the Spirit of God is named after him as it is the Spirit he walked according to and as Lord of all things he now has the authority to give to those he chooses. (John 15:26)
Ed,
Sincere prayer is one of the fruits of the Spirit even though God does not pray to anyone.
I do not know where it is written that the Spirit of Christ prayed to anyone or where anyone prayed to the Spirit of Christ.
I do know that Jesus often prayed to God as he was carried along by the Spirit.
Hi Kerwin,
“If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.” (John 14:14)
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Ed JEd,
How do the words of Jesus in John 14:14 support your claim that the Spirit prays to Jesus.
I admit that a sincere prayer is when a believer prays as they are carried along by the Spirit.
Hi Ed,
Jesus of Nazareth was anointed with the Holy Spirit(acts 10)
Not Jesus of Bethlehem.
Yes Nick,
But Jesus of Nazareth was born Christ (Luke 2:11)
You disagree with Scripture.
Hi Ed,
Jesus of Nazareth was anointed.
But you think he was anointed before he was named or even born
With no evidence.
Hi ed,
Scripture say that Jesus was made both Lord and Christ(acts 2.36)
But you disagree?
No nick,
(1)Jesus was made Christ from conception (Luke 2:11)
and (2)Jesus was made Lord at Jordan. (Acts 10:38)Concerning his Son Jesus
(1)Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
And (2)declared to be the “Son of God”(A.K.A. Lord) with power (ref Acts 10:38), according to the spirit
of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:” (Romans 1:3-4)You disagree?
If so what is your evidence ???Ed,
How do the words of Jesus in John 14:14 support your claim that the Spirit prays to Jesus.
John 14:14 is a call for us to ask Christ and he says he will certainly do it.
And Acts 3:6-7 is offered (to you) as proof that Christ means what he says…In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and
immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.” (Acts 3:6-7)Hi Ed,
Son of God = Lord.
That sounds to be just a personal interpretation.
Hi Nick,
It may sound like a personal interpretation, but hear me out.
There is a very good reason I’m putting those ideas together for you.
“Lord”: in both the Hebrew (Adonai) and the Greek (Kurios) define as “Owner”JEHOVAH is The LORD (The Owner) … “God”
Jesus Christ is Lord (Owner) … “Son of God”Do you not agree?
Hi ED,
Lk 2 does not say what you claim.
Do you have any other support?
Hi Nick, of course.
1. Luke 2:11: is a proclamation from an Angel that Christ Jesus was about to be born (witness #1)
2. Matt 2:3-4: King Herod was troubled and demanded where Christ should be born. (witness #2)
In both these instances they are calling Jesus “Christ” L-O-N-G before Jesus’ baptism at Jordan.If Jesus was not born as the Spirit of Christ,
how do account for Jesus not sinning from 0 to age 30 (before baptism)?
Of course the spirit (1 Peter 1:11) that was previously in the prophets would not sin!“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners
spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets (the spirit of Christ in them),
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son (the spirit of Christ in human flesh)” (Heb 1:1-2)“And every spirit that confesseth not
that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh
is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist” (1 John 4:3)The Spirit of Christ is come in the flesh Nick.
“Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we
have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)“All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way;
and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.” (Isaiah 53:6)If we all have turned to our own way, then all include Jesus.
And Jesus turning to his own way, would be turning the way of “Christ”.
“the spirit of Christ” is God’s only begotten Son, conceived from the HolySpirit.Hi ED,
Born anointed? Or was he not really a man?
Or was he anointed in the womb as scripture does not say so?
Perhaps you do not understand prophetic things?
He perfectly fulfilled the Law proving that it was possible to do so justifying the plan of God.
His Father was an excellent parent as Hebrews tells us.
He loved the Law as the psalms proclaim.
He was just like you and I and had no head start in life.
He was tempted in every way that we are but did not sin.
That is so you can follow him and receive of the same anointing.
Hi ED,
You were not born anointed so following him would be difficult.
You seem to offer a complex set of doctrinal justifications
But the way is not so complex
My yoke is easy.
Hi ED,
“Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we
have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)So Jesus was known after the flesh.
Since his anointing that flesh aspect is not what is relevant.
““the spirit of Christ” is God’s only begotten Son, conceived from the HolySpirit.”
So the Spirit of Christ was conceived?
Conception only relates to flesh.
Hi ED,
The birth of Jesus was certainly a momentous event.
Here was the one destined to save men from their sins that offended God.
His coming was prophesied, the angels celebrated, the magi visited and Herod tried to kill him.
Men still worship the man and celebrate Christmas but it is all a diversion.
Nothing could change till he was anointed from above at the Jordan.
That is the event we should celebrate as we can follow him.
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