JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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  • #294796
    NickHassan
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    Hi KW,
    Not my words by Scripture's.

    Unless you repent YOU WILL ALL LIKEWISE PERISH.[Lk]
    Those without the law will perish without the Law[Rom]

    #294798
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    Those who were sons of God became sons of another father. Jn 8.44

    #294799
    jammin
    Participant

    ill repeat
    to those who do not believe that the word in john 1.1 is the son of GOD

    let me post the verse

    John 1:14

    Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

    14 The Word became a man and lived among us. We saw his divine greatness—the greatness that belongs to the only Son of the Father. The Word was full of grace and truth.

    pls answer first my question
    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    pls choose number 1 or 2

    #294801
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    Which MANUSCRIPTS contain the word SON?

    #294804
    jammin
    Participant

    John 1:14

    Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

    14 The Word became a man and lived among us. We saw his divine greatness—the greatness that belongs to the only Son of the Father. The Word was full of grace and truth.
    pls answer first my question
    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    pls choose number 1 or 2

    #294806
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    Can you not research the manuscripts from which bibles are tightly or loosely translated?
    You must or you will always be at risk of deception

    #294815
    jammin
    Participant

    LOL

    read the context boy

    let me post the greek bible

    ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 1:14-18

    14και ο λογος σαρξ εγενετο και εσκηνωσεν εν ημιν και εθεασαμεθα την δοξαν αυτου δοξαν ως μονογενους παρα πατρος πληρης χαριτος και αληθειας

    15ιωαννης μαρτυρει περι αυτου και κεκραγεν λεγων ουτος ην ον ειπον ο οπισω μου ερχομενος εμπροσθεν μου γεγονεν οτι πρωτος μου ην

    16και εκ του πληρωματος αυτου ημεις παντες ελαβομεν και χαριν αντι χαριτος

    17οτι ο νομος δια μωσεως εδοθη η χαρις και η αληθεια δια ιησου χριστου εγενετο

    18θεον ουδεις εωρακεν πωποτε ο μονογενης υιος ο ων εις τον κολπον του πατρος εκεινος εξηγησατο

    do you understand that nick???

    it says begotten son!

    now answer my question

    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    pls choose 1 or 2 for your answer

    #294821
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2012,10:54)
    Hi KW,
    Not my words by Scripture's.

    Unless you repent YOU WILL ALL LIKEWISE PERISH.[Lk]
    Those without the law will perish without the Law[Rom]


    Nick,

    Scripture never states that God's creation of flesh and bone man is anything but very good.  

    In contradiction you state flesh has no future.

    God desires a broken spirit and a contrite heart.

    #294822
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ April 25 2012,15:55)
    ill repeat
    to those who do not believe that the word in john 1.1 is the son of GOD

    let me post the verse

    John 1:14

    Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

    14 The Word became a man and lived among us. We saw his divine greatness—the greatness that belongs to the only Son of the Father. The Word was full of grace and truth.

    pls answer first my question
    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    pls choose number 1 or 2


    HI Jammin,

                       John 1:14 is about “The Word” tabernacling in Jesus; now the glory of “The Word” tabernacles in us as well.
                      “Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. But we all, with open face
                       beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory,
                       even as by the Spirit of the Lord.(2Cor.3:17-18) the glory which shall be revealed in us.(Rom.8:18)

    και ο λογος σαρξ εγενετο και εσκηνωσεν εν ημιν και εθεασαμεθα την δοξαν αυτου δοξαν ως μονογενους παρα πατρος πληρης χαριτος και αληθειας
    And the Word was made flesh and tabernacled among us, and we beheld his glory, glory, as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth

          the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14)
          compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)

          The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
          maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)

          1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
          incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

          Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth,
          that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #294824
    jammin
    Participant

    LOL

    read the context boy
    do not jump to the other verses like a grasshopper.
    answer my question first.,

    ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 1:14-18

    14και ο λογος σαρξ εγενετο και εσκηνωσεν εν ημιν και εθεασαμεθα την δοξαν αυτου δοξαν ως μονογενους παρα πατρος πληρης χαριτος και αληθειας

    15ιωαννης μαρτυρει περι αυτου και κεκραγεν λεγων ουτος ην ον ειπον ο οπισω μου ερχομενος εμπροσθεν μου γεγονεν οτι πρωτος μου ην

    16και εκ του πληρωματος αυτου ημεις παντες ελαβομεν και χαριν αντι χαριτος

    17οτι ο νομος δια μωσεως εδοθη η χαρις και η αληθεια δια ιησου χριστου εγενετο

    18θεον ουδεις εωρακεν πωποτε ο μονογενης υιος ο ων εις τον κολπον του πατρος εκεινος εξηγησατο

    it says begotten son!

    now answer my question

    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    #294848
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ April 25 2012,16:54)
    it says begotten son!


    Hi Jammin,

    That's because Jesus was the first
    to have the glory of The Word inside.
    Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #294850
    jammin
    Participant

    LOL
    “to have the glory of the WORD INSIDE”
    LOL

    i do not need your explanation edj.
    you must answer first my question

    ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 1:14-18

    14και ο λογος σαρξ εγενετο και εσκηνωσεν εν ημιν και εθεασαμεθα την δοξαν αυτου δοξαν ως μονογενους παρα πατρος πληρης χαριτος και αληθειας

    15ιωαννης μαρτυρει περι αυτου και κεκραγεν λεγων ουτος ην ον ειπον ο οπισω μου ερχομενος εμπροσθεν μου γεγονεν οτι πρωτος μου ην

    16και εκ του πληρωματος αυτου ημεις παντες ελαβομεν και χαριν αντι χαριτος

    17οτι ο νομος δια μωσεως εδοθη η χαρις και η αληθεια δια ιησου χριστου εγενετο

    18θεον ουδεις εωρακεν πωποτε ο μονογενης υιος ο ων εις τον κολπον του πατρος εκεινος εξηγησατο

    now answer my question

    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    pls choose 1 or 2 for your answer.

    #294854
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ April 25 2012,19:52)
    LOL
    “to have the glory of the WORD INSIDE”
    LOL

    i do not need your explanation edj.
    you must answer first my question

    ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 1:14-18

    14και ο λογος σαρξ εγενετο και εσκηνωσεν εν ημιν και εθεασαμεθα την δοξαν αυτου δοξαν ως μονογενους παρα πατρος πληρης χαριτος και αληθειας

     15ιωαννης μαρτυρει περι αυτου και κεκραγεν λεγων ουτος ην ον ειπον ο οπισω μου ερχομενος εμπροσθεν μου γεγονεν οτι πρωτος μου ην

     16και εκ του πληρωματος αυτου ημεις παντες ελαβομεν και χαριν αντι χαριτος

     17οτι ο νομος δια μωσεως εδοθη η χαρις και η αληθεια δια ιησου χριστου εγενετο

     18θεον ουδεις εωρακεν πωποτε ο μονογενης υιος ο ων εις τον κολπον του πατρος εκεινος εξηγησατο

    now answer my question

    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    pls choose 1 or 2 for your answer.


    Hi Jammin,

    2 Cor. 5:1: To wit, that God(“HolySpirit”) was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
    and hath committed unto us “The Word” of reconciliation.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #294855
    jammin
    Participant

    your imagination in 2 cor 5.1 is useless. LOL

    the topic is about john 1.1

    now let me post the greek

    ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 1:14-18

    14και ο λογος σαρξ εγενετο και εσκηνωσεν εν ημιν και εθεασαμεθα την δοξαν αυτου δοξαν ως μονογενους παρα πατρος πληρης χαριτος και αληθειας

    15ιωαννης μαρτυρει περι αυτου και κεκραγεν λεγων ουτος ην ον ειπον ο οπισω μου ερχομενος εμπροσθεν μου γεγονεν οτι πρωτος μου ην

    16και εκ του πληρωματος αυτου ημεις παντες ελαβομεν και χαριν αντι χαριτος

    17οτι ο νομος δια μωσεως εδοθη η χαρις και η αληθεια δια ιησου χριστου εγενετο

    18θεον ουδεις εωρακεν πωποτε ο μονογενης υιος ο ων εις τον κολπον του πατρος εκεινος εξηγησατο

    now answer my question

    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    pls choose 1 or 2 for your answer.

    #294856
    jammin
    Participant

    btw here is the true meaning of the verse 2 cor 5.19
    2 Corinthians 5:19

    GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

    19 In other words, God was using Christ to restore his relationship with humanity. He didn’t hold people’s faults against them, and he has given us this message of restored relationships to tell others.

    where is your imagination holy spirit?

    you are just adding words to the bible LOL

    make your own version :D

    #294857
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ April 25 2012,20:10)
    your imagination in 2 cor 5.1 is useless. LOL

    the topic is about john 1.1

    now let me post the greek

    ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 1:14-18

    14και ο λογος σαρξ εγενετο και εσκηνωσεν εν ημιν και εθεασαμεθα την δοξαν αυτου δοξαν ως μονογενους παρα πατρος πληρης χαριτος και αληθειας

    15ιωαννης μαρτυρει περι αυτου και κεκραγεν λεγων ουτος ην ον ειπον ο οπισω μου ερχομενος εμπροσθεν μου γεγονεν οτι πρωτος μου ην

    16και εκ του πληρωματος αυτου ημεις παντες ελαβομεν και χαριν αντι χαριτος

    17οτι ο νομος δια μωσεως εδοθη η χαρις και η αληθεια δια ιησου χριστου εγενετο

    18θεον ουδεις εωρακεν πωποτε ο μονογενης υιος ο ων εις τον κολπον του πατρος εκεινος εξηγησατο

    now answer my question

    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    pls choose 1 or 2 for your answer.


    Hi Jammin,

    Neither is written in John 1:1.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #294858
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ April 25 2012,20:15)
    btw here is the true meaning of the verse 2 cor 5.19
    2 Corinthians 5:19

    GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

    19 In other words, God was using Christ to restore his relationship with humanity. He didn’t hold people’s faults against them, and he has given us this message of restored relationships to tell others.

    where is your imagination holy spirit?

    you are just adding words to the bible LOL

    make your own version :D


    Hi Jammin,

    You mean like that versions words of men for you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #294862
    jammin
    Participant

    that is the meaning of 2 cor 5.19
    why dont you read the context well instead of doctoring the bible LOL

    poor edj.

    #294863
    jammin
    Participant

    ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 1:14-18

    14και ο λογος σαρξ εγενετο και εσκηνωσεν εν ημιν και εθεασαμεθα την δοξαν αυτου δοξαν ως μονογενους παρα πατρος πληρης χαριτος και αληθειας

    15ιωαννης μαρτυρει περι αυτου και κεκραγεν λεγων ουτος ην ον ειπον ο οπισω μου ερχομενος εμπροσθεν μου γεγονεν οτι πρωτος μου ην

    16και εκ του πληρωματος αυτου ημεις παντες ελαβομεν και χαριν αντι χαριτος

    17οτι ο νομος δια μωσεως εδοθη η χαρις και η αληθεια δια ιησου χριστου εγενετο

    18θεον ουδεις εωρακεν πωποτε ο μονογενης υιος ο ων εις τον κολπον του πατρος εκεινος εξηγησατο

    now answer my question

    what did john said??

    did he say the word is

    1.the son of GOD or

    2.the holy spirit?

    pls choose 1 or 2 for your answer.

    #294875
    charity
    Participant

    jammin,April wrote:

    ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 1:14-18

    14και ο λογος &%

    Let me see…Jesus was meant to be the Son Of David! but some, including John were pritty much against Davids throne receiving any glory an honour, they would have had no choice other than to divert the notions of the original prophetic monarchy, accomplishing by hurling the whole thing  into space an time in a spin, replacing his present lumination with the new divine Jesus… not to mention..after slaming his mouth closed, fearing an hearing no rebuke…hence.. that was pritty much powerful enough to conquer the promise of Davids statues ruling the jewish earth for the present days…. keeping the romans oppressing in place, feeding themselves off the flesh of the Jewish inheritance…

    what a scuffle…which still didn't address the fact that only the soul lives forever…. In egypt it is the custom to preserve flesh, preserve mummies, an raise zombies…literal attempts are preformed in mere word resurrections?….of little power..matthew 24…if they rise not, then perhaps they also lie about Jesus…in the mere sentences an verse's apart all in one chapter.

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