JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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  • #283316
    kerwin
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    Jammin,

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    pages are increasng but you cant read your opinion in john 1.1

    I do not need stories. better luck next time

    The stories I have quoted are other passages of script I cite to demonstrate how their testimony reveals the same thing that John was teaching.

    Do you agree that there is life in the word of God?

    Do you agree that those that believe are born of the word of God?

    If you do then you know the stories of scripture are true and it is best to believe what they say about the word of God.

    #283323
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Ed J,

    I am not interested in talking about this analogy.

    I would be interested in scriptures where God is in fours.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #283326
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Marlin, (Link)

    G. The Trins see God as three…                        <– An incomplete picture

    F. The non-Trins see God as One…                         <– An incomplete picture

     
                                                                                   <– The HolyCity (Rev.21:2-3 / Isaiah 60:14)


    And the [HolyCity] lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth:” (Rev 21:16)
    Ezekiel 43:16: And the altar shall be twelve cubits long, twelve broad, square in the “Four Squares” thereof.


              “To him that overcometh ( ) will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
              even as I(יהשוע) also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
           He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)

                       Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners,
               but fellowcitizens ( ) with the saints, and of
    the household of God;
               And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets. (Eph 2:19-22)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #283328
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 07 2012,10:53)
    Ed J,

    I am not interested in talking about this analogy.

    I would be interested in scriptures where God is in fours.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Marlin,

    I know of a unity spoken of in Scripture but no trinity. That does not seem to prevent you from believing the later is testified in Scripture. Ed instead believes it testifies of a God with 4 states of being instead of three.

    #283329
    Ed J
    Participant

    No Kerwin, a pattern of Five.

                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

                                                                  <– The HolyCity (Rev.21:2-3 / Isaiah 60:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #283341
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Ed J,

    Thanks, that is interesting.  Foursquare means a four sided square box.
    why do you put four little squares in side the foursquare.

    I understand that this is speaking of a Pyramid.
    12,000 X 4 sides  12,000 high

    Interesting though

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #283343
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Kerwin,

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    I know of a unity spoken of in Scripture but no trinity.

    Just so you might understand where I am coming from, I don't believe in a trinity as two or three separate persons in one God.  That is paganism.

    I believe that God manifested Himself in three difference ways.  The same God.  He was the God (Father) over Israel, the Son in Jesus, The Holy Ghost in us.  The same one God all the time.

    Does that clear it up, I hope.

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #283345
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi M1,
    God in heaven does marvellous things with and through His Spirit.
    His Son is born of Him by that Spirit.
    So are His many sons.

    None become Him.

    #283347
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 07 2012,17:42)
    Ed J,

    Thanks, that is interesting.  Foursquare means a four sided square box.
    why do you put four little squares in side the foursquare.

    I understand that this is speaking of a Pyramid.
    12,000 X 4 sides  12,000 high

    Interesting though

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    The things of God are “Spiritual” rather than 'physical'.

    John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world:
    if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that
    I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

    Rev.21:2-3 And I John saw the HOLY CITY=117, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
    prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold,
    the tabernacle of God is with men (Is.60:14), and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
    AND GOD HIMSELF=117 shall be with them, and be “their God”=86 (YHVH=63).
                                                                                    (86=[אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

    #283349
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,16:20)
    No Kerwin, a pattern of Five.

                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

                                                                  <– The HolyCity (Rev.21:2-3 / Isaiah 60:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    To All,

    1 Cor 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak Five Words with my understanding,
    that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #283355
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    God did not want robots or slaves to fellowship with Him eternally.
    So he sent the Word, His image, to create a family.eph 3.15
    The unity he wants is of opposites in harmony.eph 5.32

    #283356
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 07 2012,12:50)
    Kerwin,

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    I know of a unity spoken of in Scripture but no trinity.

    Just so you might understand where I am coming from, I don't believe in a trinity as two or three separate persons in one God.  That is paganism.

    I believe that God manifested Himself in three difference ways.  The same God.  He was the God (Father) over Israel, the Son in Jesus, The Holy Ghost in us.  The same one God all the time.

    Does that clear it up, I hope.

    God Bless
    Marlin


    Marlin,

    Your teaching sounds like “Oneness” Christology.

    #283377
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2012,15:13)
    Jammin,

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    pages are increasng but you cant read your opinion in john 1.1

    I do not need stories. better luck next time

    The stories I have quoted are other passages of script I cite to demonstrate how their testimony reveals the same thing that John was teaching.  

    Do you agree that there is life in the word of God?

    Do you agree that those that believe are born of the word of God?

    If you do then you know the stories of scripture are true and it is best to believe what they say about the word of God.


    read your stories in john 1.1 and do not jump to other verses.
    do make people fool kerwin.

    if you cant read your imagination in john 1.1
    then better luck next time

    study hard mr dream boy

    #283378
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,13:14)

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 07 2012,11:12)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,04:22)
    Hi Jammin,
    Jesus became the Christ by anointing.
    Jesus Christ means the ANOINTED Jesus.
    The man born in Bethlehem was conceived.


    Christ also means the son of GOD.

    Matthew 16:16

    New International Reader's Version (NIRV)

    16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ. You are the Son of the living God.”

    he became flesh john 1.14

    this is what the bible says

    11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you. He is Christ the Lord.

    therefore, once again the dreamer group is still dreaming. they still cant read their opinion.
    better luck next time


    Hi Jammin,
    Indeed as you show he was the SON of the Living God.

    But you say he also was that God??


    are u reading my post??

    ill repeat, the father and the son have the same nature, GOD!

    for exmple, you and your father have the same nature, MAN!

    you are not an animal!

    the father is GOD!

    the son is GOD!

    that's what the bible says believe it or not!

    John 1:1

    American Standard Version (ASV)
    John 1

    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    #283385
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Kerwin,

    Is God ONE?

    That is the mystery, isn't it.

    I don't believe that Jesus created Himself, like pentecostal oneness do.  
    I don't believe in baptism in the name of Jesus Only, that is contrary to scripture.  Not acceptable to God. There are many Jesus'
    I also don't believe that baptism in the titles of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is baptism in any name at all.  Not acceptable to God.

    I believe that God created Jesus and then dwelt in Him.

    I believe it is a revelation of who the Lord Jesus Christ is and revelation comes from God to whom He chooses.

    And many other things, deep things, I believe.

    Tell me, what do you believe?

    God Bless
    Marlin

    #283386
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Jammin,

    I admire how you stand up for your beliefs.  The true test of God's children is can they receive revelation from God.

    One question I have.  Who was Jesus' Father?

    An honest answer to this question should show you that the trinity doctrine of three persons in one God is false.

    God Bless you in your search
    Marlin

    #283396
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 07 2012,19:58)

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2012,15:13)
    Jammin,

    Quote
    pages are increasng but you cant read your opinion in john 1.1

    I do not need stories. better luck next time

    The stories I have quoted are other passages of script I cite to demonstrate how their testimony reveals the same thing that John was teaching.  

    Do you agree that there is life in the word of God?

    Do you agree that those that believe are born of the word of God?

    If you do then you know the stories of scripture are true and it is best to believe what they say about the word of God.


    read your stories in john 1.1 and do not jump to other verses.
    do make people fool kerwin.

    if you cant read your imagination in john 1.1
    then better luck next time

    study hard mr dream boy


    Jammin,

    I choose not to take one verse out of the message of Scripture and give it my own spin like some do.  If you are truly seeking to understand John's teaching in John 1:1 then you will seek to understand the context.

    I asked if you believe that there is life in the Word and if believers  are born through the Word.  You avoided answering those two questions. Are you being serious in your search for God's righteousness?

    #283400
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2012,20:51)
    Hi T,
    ONE Spirit


    N

    yea that is more like it

    #283432
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 07 2012,22:57)
    Jammin,

    I admire how you stand up for your beliefs.  The true test of God's children is can they receive revelation from God.

    One question I have.  Who was Jesus' Father?

    An honest answer to this question should show you that the trinity doctrine of three persons in one God is false.

    God Bless you in your search
    Marlin


    Marlin,

    What you have written I agree with.

    I believe Jesus is a human being who sacrificed himself to defeat the true enemy of God, which is sin.

    I believe he raised from the dead because death had no hold on him as he did not sin even though tempted as is common to man.

    I believe God appointed him King of all things in heaven and on earth and that ascended to sit on his throne. I believe he mediates the new covenant from there.

    I believe that and more.

    #283436
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    He was raised by the abiding Spirit of God in him.

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