JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Be content with what you have.
But there is more.

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2012,12:41)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,19:37) Hi MB, Scripture does not say “in the beginning there were two gods, Father and Son” Scripture says, “In the beginning was the Word.  And the Word was with THE God, and the Word was a god.” That is what the scriptures say, Nick.

Hi Mike,

No, that's what the N.W.T. says.
Scripture says: “The Word was God”

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,12:29)

Hi Jammin, Scripture tells us many times Jesus was a man. But you have your own opinion?

of course he became like men.
but before taking the form of man, he's in the form(nature) of GOD!

are you not reading the bible?

read it well mr dream boy

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2012,12:41)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,19:37) Hi MB, Scripture does not say “in the beginning there were two gods, Father and Son” Scripture says, “In the beginning was the Word.  And the Word was with THE God, and the Word was a god.” That is what the scriptures say, Nick.

your christ is a false god according to your doctrine.

you are a joker mike. your doctrine is so funny.

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,12:37)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,08:17) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,00:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,00:24) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2012,07:14) 14 The Word became a man and lived among us. We saw his divine greatness—the greatness that belongs to the only Son of the Father. The Word was full of grace and truth. that is CHRIST! That's correct, jammin.  Jesus is the SON OF the Father, and for us, there is but ONE God – the Father. He is not only our God, but Jesus' God as well.  Jesus himself tells us this. one GOD the father. that is right mike. but it does not mean that Christ is not GOD. he is GOD! the SON of GOD is GOD! 1 john 5.20 English Standard Version (ESV) 20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. Hi Jammin, Is Jesus not also the Son of Mary. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.2:11 / Luke 2:34 / John 19:25 / Acts 1:14) Does that make him Mary according to your logic?    …and if not, why not? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Bump for Jammin

did i say that the father is also the SON??

i said they have the same nature! the father is GOD! the son is GOD!

your father has the nature of man, he is MAN!
you have the nature of man, you are MAN!

unless you are an animal

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2012,12:32)

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,19:16) Christ and the father have the same nature, GOD! But you are trying to use “God the person” as a species.  As if Jesus and Jehovah are both part of a species called “godkind”. But if the scriptures even said, “Jesus has the nature of God”, it would be referring to God the PERSON. It would be the same as, “Mike has the nature of Adam”.   In this case, it does not refer to the SPECIES “adamkind”, but to the PERSON “Adam”.  And if I have the same nature as Adam, then I cannot be Adam himself, although I would be adamkind.

adam is a man. you are a man.,
bec you have the same nature.

Christ and the father have the same nature, GOD!

the son is GOD! the father is GOD!

they have the same nature, GOD!

Philippians 2:6

New International Reader's Version (NIRV)

6 In his very nature he was God.

greek morphe- means form, nature
(strong's greek lexicon)

boys, you need to study hard

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
Yes the Word was in the form of God.
The Word was God

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 05 2012,12:58)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,08:17) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,00:28) the SON of GOD is GOD! Hi Jammin, Is Jesus not also the Son of Mary. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.2:11 / Luke 2:34 / John 19:25 / Acts 1:14) Does that make him Mary according to your logic?    …and if not, why not? God bless Ed J did i say that the father is also the SON?? i said they have the same nature! the father is GOD! the son is GOD! your father has the nature of man, he is MAN! you have the nature of man, you are MAN! unless you are an animal

Hi Jammin,

Try to stay focused; OK?    …Do you believe Mary was Jesus mother?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,13:03)

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 05 2012,12:58) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,08:17) Hi Jammin, Is Jesus not also the Son of Mary. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.2:11 / Luke 2:34 / John 19:25 / Acts 1:14) Does that make him Mary according to your logic?    …and if not, why not? God bless Ed J did i say that the father is also the SON?? i said they have the same nature! the father is GOD! the son is GOD! your father has the nature of man, he is MAN! you have the nature of man, you are MAN! unless you are an animal Hi Jammin, Try to stay focused; OK?    …Do you believe Mary was Jesus mother? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Galatians 4:4

New International Reader's Version (NIRV)

4 But then the right time came. God sent his Son. A woman gave birth to him. He was born under the authority of the law

now answer my question

do you have the nature of GOD or you can share the nature of GOD?
@nick,
yes the Word was GOD! and that Word is Christ! not the father!

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 05 2012,13:04)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,13:03) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 05 2012,12:58) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,08:17) Hi Jammin, Is Jesus not also the Son of Mary. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.2:11 / Luke 2:34 / John 19:25 / Acts 1:14) Does that make him Mary according to your logic?    …and if not, why not? God bless Ed J did i say that the father is also the SON?? i said they have the same nature! the father is GOD! the son is GOD! your father has the nature of man, he is MAN! you have the nature of man, you are MAN! unless you are an animal Hi Jammin, Try to stay focused; OK?    …Do you believe Mary was Jesus mother? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org when Christ became flesh. mary was the instrument of GOD. now answer my question do you have the nature of GOD or you can share the nature of GOD Galatians 4:4 New International Reader's Version (NIRV) 4 But then the right time came. God sent his Son. A woman gave birth to him. He was born under the authority of the law @nick, yes the Word was GOD! and that Word is Christ! not the father!

Do you believe Mary was Jesus mother? …yes or no?

[jammin]

in flesh

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 05 2012,13:06)

in flesh

Hi Jammin,

You believe Mary was Jesus' mother; good because that's what Scripture says!
(Matt.1:18 / Matt.2:11 / Luke 2:34 / John 19:25 / Acts 1:14)

You believe Jesus is(?) God,
and you believe Mary is Jesus' mother…

Do you believe Mary is(?) the mother of God?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[abe]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 05 2012,08:54)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,16:27) Hi LU, Theology is not of God. Scripture is the wisdom of God Nick, Scripture is the wisdom of God?? Do you have a verse that says that? I don't recall one. Theology defined in part: the·ol·o·gy    [thee-ol-uh-jee] Show IPA noun, plural -gies. 1. the field of study and analysis that treats of God and of God's attributes and relations to the universe; study of divine things or religious truth; divinity. 2 Timothy 2:15 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Is it not theology when you study the Bible to rightly divide the word of truth? Do you not seek divine truth?

Hi Kathi and Nick,

1Cor.1:24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

Peace………Peace.

[abe]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,10:23)

Quote (abe @ Mar. 05 2012,09:57) Heb. 6:18     so that by two unchangeable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we might have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us. One thing God cannot do,  LIE. Hi Abe, Do you know what the other thing God cannot do is? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

What is the other one???

Thanks.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Yes the CHRIST, The SPIRIT, the WORD

[Ed J]

Quote (abe @ Mar. 05 2012,14:27)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,10:23) Quote (abe @ Mar. 05 2012,09:57) Heb. 6:18     so that by two unchangeable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we might have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us. One thing God cannot do,  LIE. Hi Abe, Do you know what the other thing God cannot do is? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Ed, What is the other one??? Thanks.

Hi Abe, thanks for asking! (Luke 11:9)

2 Tim 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[abe]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,14:55)

Quote (abe @ Mar. 05 2012,14:27) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,10:23) Quote (abe @ Mar. 05 2012,09:57) Heb. 6:18     so that by two unchangeable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we might have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us. One thing God cannot do,  LIE. Hi Abe, Do you know what the other thing God cannot do is? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Ed, What is the other one??? Thanks. Hi Abe, thanks for asking! (Luke 11:9) 2 Tim 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed,

Amen brother.

Peace.

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 05 2012,06:17)

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 05 2012,07:39) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,18:42) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 04 2012,15:44) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,09:18) the father did not became flesh mike. that's right. but the son did. no man has the form of GOD. christ has the form of GOD! they have the same nature. the father and son, GOD! as i have said, you and adam have the same form, man. but you are not adam. adam is a true man! how about you mike? a false man? hahahahah maybe an animal mike. hahahahah your doctrine is so funny! hahaha Jammin, You seem to be accusing God of having a multi-personality disorder whereas he believes he is both a father and his own son. You are accusing God of being tempted by evil for it is written that Jesus was fully tempted as is common to man. As Jesus has been teaching us do not attempt to remove the mote from your brother's eye until you have removed the beam from your own. Pray for and seek godliness and the Kingdom will be yours. so you are oneness kerwin. your doctrine is not in the bible. btw, that is not the topic here. make a new thread Jammin, It may not be the topic of this post but I addressed your post and pointed out where your teachings depend on the principles of this dark world.   Your teachings are designed to put and obstacle in front of those that seek to be like God in true righteousness and holiness by convincing those that hear them that they cannot achieve their desire.   Put away those teachings and seek God's righteousness and you will enter the kingdom of heaven. tnx for accepting that you are out of the topic. better luck next time

Jammin ,

You are out of topic and judging another for doing the same. Stop running and address my points.

As I stated the three persons in one God opinion seems to be accusing God of having a multi-personality disorder.

It also accuses God of being tempted by evil as Jesus was tempted as we are without sin.

It also accuses God of having to grow in wisdom as Scripture states Jesus did.

It is clear that Jesus is not God and you have been fooled by his snare and are interpreting John 1:1 incorrectly.

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ Mar. 05 2012,08:06)

in flesh

Jammin,

Are you stating that the flesh side of Jesus was descended from David but his soul is God?

[NickHassan]

Hi,
God pours of His Spirit.[Joel2]
But when God does this He remains one with His Spirit in whoever is so blessed.
The difference with the Word is that He poured of His Spirit in the beginning before that Spirit was anointed into Jesus at the Jordan.

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