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Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 29 2009,08:36) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,08:34) Hi TT,
God was and is in Christ.
The light of the Spirit of God within him draws the willing.
In the days of His flesh. There is no “IN” now that Jesus is spirit again like He was before.thinker
Hi TT,
Jesus is now alive in the Spirit of God with Abraham and Moses, Eljah, Isaac and Jacob and the other sons of God.Hi WJ,
Jesus returned to his God and ours.[Jn20]
So now he is at the right hand of God.
But your catholic dogmas state he is God?
Who is your master then?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 28 2009,16:52) Hi WJ,
Jesus returned to his God and ours.[Jn20]
So now he is at the right hand of God.
But your catholic dogmas state he is God?
Who is your master then?
NHI only have “One Master”, how about you?
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 29 2009,08:42) Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 28 2009,16:31) Gene said: Quote YOU can't even go to Jesus in order to be part of the Church unless the FATHER draw YOU. Gene.
Nonsense Cat! Jesus said that when He was lifted up that HE HIMSELF would draw all men to Himself,
“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.”
You keep denying Him the authority He received at His exaltation.
Before His exaltation: The Father drew men to Christ (John 6:44).
After His exaltation: Jesus draws all men Himself (John 12:32).
Get it right Cat!
thinker
JackIt is as if they refuse to see that Jesus has “All Authority and Power” and that the Father has committed all things into his hands including all judgment.
They think that Jesus is still in the flesh and see him as a mere man, when in fact by virtue of his position with the Father he is God! My Lord , Jesus isn't even subjected to the Father at this time according to 1 Cor 15, and he is in the highest possible postion in the universe all authority and power subject to him!
They accuse us of giving Jesus equal honour as to the Father when infact that is what the Father has done, is give him equal Honour by setting him at his own right hand!
I am convinced that only the Spirit of God can open their eyes, for it is only by the Spirit that one can confess that Jesus is Lord!
WJ
Yes WJ,
Jesus said that the Father has committed ALL Judgment to the Son. This means that He himself discriminates between the saved and the lost. Jesus said it is HIS VOICE men will hear in the resurrection,Quote Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live….Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
All that Christ said about men hearing His voice in the resurrection is an EXPLANATION of His claim that ALL judgment has been given to Him.
Nick offers the erroneous explanation that it is as a mere “vessel” of God that Christ has this power and authority. But Christ is spirit now like He was before. Does spirit dwell in spirit? Is spirit the “vessel” of spirit?
Paul said that our vessels are “tents” meaning that they are temporary dwellings (2 Cor. 4:16-5:5). So it was for Christ. His body was just the temporary “tent” He used until He was glorified. Christ is spirit now and the proof is in the fact that He appeared to Paul as a blinding light?
thinker
Hi WJ,
His disciples called Jesus MASTER but you cannot?
He told them his Father was their God but you fiddle with the order?God is the head of Christ and Christ the head of man…
Jesus is not your LORD YET as he should be?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,09:07) Hi WJ,
His disciples called Jesus MASTER but you cannot?
He told them his Father was their God but you fiddle with the order?God is the head of Christ and Christ the head of man…
Jesus is not your LORD YET as he should be?
Nick,
The Father did the “fiddling” by installing His Son as God on the throne (Hebrews 1:8-10). You are reversing things because you don't like what the Father has done.thinker
Hi TT,
So God blessed His Son with authority.
The greater blesses the lesser[Heb7]So Jesus is neither Almighty God nor equal with Him.
Out goes the catholic trinity follyQuote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,09:17) Hi TT,
So God blessed His Son with authority.
The greater blesses the lesser[Heb7]So Jesus is neither Almighty God nor equal with Him.
Out goes the catholic trinity folly
So Christ is on the throne as a lesser God?
And where does it say that the Father “blessed” Christ? The Father payed Christ what was due Him.So out goes the Arian folly that there is a lesser God on the throne.
thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 28 2009,17:07) Hi WJ,
His disciples called Jesus MASTER but you cannot?
He told them his Father was their God but you fiddle with the order?God is the head of Christ and Christ the head of man…
Jesus is not your LORD YET as he should be?
NHYou didnt answer the question. How many Masters do you have?
WJ
Hi TT,
Jesus should be you Lord and his God should be yours.
His Kingly throne does not make him another god.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,06:49) Hi not3,
What is truth?
Thy Word is truth.You too are limiting truth to your measures.
Patience.Feed on the word and the morning star will shine in your heart.
What measures?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 29 2009,09:31) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 28 2009,17:07) Hi WJ,
His disciples called Jesus MASTER but you cannot?
He told them his Father was their God but you fiddle with the order?God is the head of Christ and Christ the head of man…
Jesus is not your LORD YET as he should be?
NHYou didnt answer the question. How many Masters do you have?
WJ
Hi WJ,
Do you think you should appoint spiritual masters for yourself?Under God Jesus should be your Lord and master.
Don't fiddle with God's ways
Jesus is LordQuote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,09:59) Hi not3,
Your measure of truth seems to be whatever any man thinks it is.
Thy word is truth[jn17]
You misunderstand, I don't really care what man thinks anymore. There are so many theories out there! To each their own, I say!The bible is true for you.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 28 2009,17:57) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 29 2009,09:31) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 28 2009,17:07) Hi WJ,
His disciples called Jesus MASTER but you cannot?
He told them his Father was their God but you fiddle with the order?God is the head of Christ and Christ the head of man…
Jesus is not your LORD YET as he should be?
NHYou didnt answer the question. How many Masters do you have?
WJ
Hi WJ,
Do you think you should appoint spiritual masters for yourself?Under God Jesus should be your Lord and master.
Don't fiddle with God's ways
Jesus is Lord
NHSo Jesus is your “Only Lord and Master” right?
For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny “our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ“. Jude 1:4
So now based on that is the Father your Lord and Master or not?
WJ
Hi WJ,
You should not deny your master and Lord Jesus Christ.
You have tripped over the stumbling stone trying to appoint your God as your Lord.Wake up.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,09:32) Hi TT,
Jesus should be you Lord and his God should be yours.
His Kingly throne does not make him another god.
So when The Father said to the Son “Your throne O God” and installed Him as God on the throne you don't like it? Am I right that you don't like it?thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,10:13) Hi WJ,
You should not deny your master and Lord Jesus Christ.
You have tripped over the stumbling stone trying to appoint your God as your Lord.Wake up.
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