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- August 14, 2012 at 8:53 pm#309282LightenupParticipant
Hi all,
I've been wanting to do this for a while now. It seems we are refuting the “Jesus is an angel being” believer's “proof scriptures” so often, that we never get the chance to have them answer to the MANY scriptures that CLEARLY teach that Jesus is NOT an angel being.
This thread is NOT for any discussion whatsoever. This thread is ONLY for posting scriptures that show Jesus is not an angel being.
Hopefully, I will eventually put them all together in the second post here.
PLEASE………..ONLY SCRIPTURES – NO CHIT CHAT, DEBATES OR DISCUSSIONS.
I will have posts deleted that don't comply with the rules of the thread.
God bless the efforts here and pray that truth is unveiled to the blind that believe Jesus is an angel being.
Thanks guys!
August 14, 2012 at 8:54 pm#309283LightenupParticipantThis space is reserved for an ongoing collection of proof texts that prove that Jesus is someone OTHER than an angel being.
Mark 13:32
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But of that day and of that hour no man knows, neither the Angels of Heaven, neither The Son, but The Father only.”New International Version (©1984)
“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.Galatians 4:14
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And you did not ridicule, neither did you loathe the trial of my flesh, but you received me as an Angel of God and as Yeshua The Messiah.International Standard Version (©2008)
Even though my condition put you to the test, you did not despise or reject me. On the contrary, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, or as if I were the Messiah Jesus.1 Peter 3:21
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
21For you also are saved in it by that simile in baptism, not when you wash the body from impurity, but when you confess God with a pure conscience, and by the resurrection of Yeshua, The Messiah, 22He who has been escorted into Heaven, and he is upon the right hand of God, and the Angels and the Principalities and the Powers are subjected unto him.New International Version (©1984)
21and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledgee of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.1 Timothy 5:21
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But I testify to you before God and our Lord Yeshua The Messiah and his chosen Angels, that you will observe these things and not let your mind be prejudiced for anything and do nothing by favoritism.New International Version (©1984)
I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.Hebrews 2:5
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
For it was not to Angels that he subjected the future world, about which we are speaking;New International Version (©1984)
It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking.1 Corinthians 6:3
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Do you not know that we judge the Angels? How much rather those who are of this world?New International Version (©1984)
Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!Hebrews 1:13-14
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
13But to which of the Angels did he ever say, “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies as a footstool under your feet?”14Behold, are they not all spirits of service, who are sent into service for the sake of those who are going to inherit life?
New International Version (©1984)
13To which of the angels did God ever say,“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”h?
14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
Rev 7:10
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And they shouted with a great voice, and they were saying, “Salvation to our God, and to him Who sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!” 11And all of the Angels were standing around the throne and The Elders and The Four Beasts, and they fell before the throne on their faces,New International Version 1984
10And they cried out in a loud voice:
“Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb.”
11All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures.Rev 14:10
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Shall also drink from the wine of the passion of THE LORD JEHOVAH, which is mixed without dilution in the cup of his rage, and he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy Angels and before the Lamb.”New International Version (©1984)
he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.Rev 3:5
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“He who overcomes in this way is garbed with a white garment, and I shall not blot out his name from The Book of Life, and I shall confess his name before my Father and before his Angels.”New International Version (©1984)
He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.August 14, 2012 at 8:55 pm#309284LightenupParticipantMark 13:32
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But of that day and of that hour no man knows, neither the Angels of Heaven, neither The Son, but The Father only.”New International Version (©1984)
“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.August 14, 2012 at 8:56 pm#309285LightenupParticipantGalatians 4:14
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And you did not ridicule, neither did you loathe the trial of my flesh, but you received me as an Angel of God and as Yeshua The Messiah.International Standard Version (©2008)
Even though my condition put you to the test, you did not despise or reject me. On the contrary, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, or as if I were the Messiah Jesus.August 14, 2012 at 8:56 pm#309286LightenupParticipant1 Peter 3:21
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
21For you also are saved in it by that simile in baptism, not when you wash the body from impurity, but when you confess God with a pure conscience, and by the resurrection of Yeshua, The Messiah, 22He who has been escorted into Heaven, and he is upon the right hand of God, and the Angels and the Principalities and the Powers are subjected unto him.New International Version (©1984)
21and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledgee of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.August 14, 2012 at 8:57 pm#309287LightenupParticipant1 Timothy 5:21
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But I testify to you before God and our Lord Yeshua The Messiah and his chosen Angels, that you will observe these things and not let your mind be prejudiced for anything and do nothing by favoritism.New International Version (©1984)
I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.August 14, 2012 at 8:58 pm#309288LightenupParticipantHebrews 2:5
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
For it was not to Angels that he subjected the future world, about which we are speaking;New International Version (©1984)
It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking.August 14, 2012 at 9:53 pm#309289LightenupParticipant1 Corinthians 6:3
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Do you not know that we judge the Angels? How much rather those who are of this world?New International Version (©1984)
Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!Now does anyone think that WE will be judging Jesus?
No, WE will NOT be judging Jesus, therefore according to this verse alone, Jesus is NOT an angel being!!August 16, 2012 at 3:56 pm#309513LightenupParticipantHebrews 1:13-14
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
13But to which of the Angels did he ever say, “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies as a footstool under your feet?”14Behold, are they not all spirits of service, who are sent into service for the sake of those who are going to inherit life?
New International Version (©1984)
13To which of the angels did God ever say,“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”h?
14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
August 17, 2012 at 1:51 am#309563mikeboll64BlockedMark 13:32 Young's Literal Translation
And concerning that day and the hour no one hath known — not even the messengers who are in the heaven, not even the Son — except the Father.Galatians 4:14 YLT
and my trial that is in my flesh ye did not despise nor reject, but as a messenger of God ye did receive me — as Christ Jesus;1 Peter 3:21-2 YLT
who is at the right hand of God, having gone on to heaven — messengers, and authorities, and powers, having been subjected to him1 Timothy 5:21 YLT
I testify fully, before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the choice messengers, that these things thou mayest keep, without forejudging, doing nothing by partiality.Hebrews 2:5 YLT
For not to messengers did He subject the coming world, concerning which we speak,1 Corinthians 6:3 YLT
have ye not known that we shall judge messengers? why not then the things of life?Hebrews 1:13-14
And unto which of the messengers said He ever, 'Sit at My right hand, till I may make thine enemies thy footstool?'are they not all spirits of service — for ministration being sent forth because of those about to inherit salvation?
September 1, 2012 at 10:42 pm#311412LightenupParticipantAramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Rev 7:10And they shouted with a great voice, and they were saying, “Salvation to our God, and to him Who sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!” 11And all of the Angels were standing around the throne and The Elders and The Four Beasts, and they fell before the throne on their faces,New International Version 1984
10And they cried out in a loud voice:
“Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb.”
11All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures.Young's Literal Translation
Rev 7:10 and crying with a great voice, saying, 'The salvation is to Him who is sitting upon the throne — to our God, and to the Lamb!' 11 And all the messengers stood around the throne, and the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell upon their face, and bowed before God,This passage mentions that ALL the angels were standing around the throne that the Lamb and God, the Father are sitting on…therefore the Lamb is someone other than an angel.
September 1, 2012 at 10:50 pm#311413LightenupParticipantRev 14:10
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Shall also drink from the wine of the passion of THE LORD JEHOVAH, which is mixed without dilution in the cup of his rage, and he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy Angels and before the Lamb.”Young's Literal Translation
he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, that hath been mingled unmixed in the cup of His anger, and he shall be tormented in fire and brimstone before the holy messengers, and before the Lamb,New International Version (©1984)
he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.Here, again, we see the Lamb as someone other than the holy angels.
September 1, 2012 at 10:55 pm#311414LightenupParticipantRev 3:5
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“He who overcomes in this way is garbed with a white garment, and I shall not blot out his name from The Book of Life, and I shall confess his name before my Father and before his Angels.”Young's Literal Translation
He who is overcoming — this one — shall be arrayed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the scroll of the life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before His messengers.New International Version (©1984)
He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.And here we see that Jesus is not one of the Father's angels but someone other than the Father's angels.
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