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Jesus' message was to “the lost sheep of the house of Israel”. Matt.15:24.
He told His deciples NOT to go to the nations, as He commanded them in Matt.10:5-7
…5 These twelve Jesus commissions, charging them, saying, “Into a road of the nations you may not pass forth, and into a city of the Samaritans you may not be entering.6 Yet be going rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7 Now going, herald, saying that 'Near is the kingdom of the heavens!'
Now in Matt.28:16-20 …He (Jesus) says:
…16 Now the eleven disciples went into Galilee, into the mountain where Jesus arranges with them.
17 And, perceiving Him, they worship Him, yet they hesitate.
18 And, approaching, Jesus speaks to them saying, “Given to Me was all authority in heaven and on the earth.
19 Going, then, disciple all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
20 teaching them to be keeping all, whatever I direct you. And lo! I am with you all the days till the conclusion of the eon! Amen!”
Now, this seems to be a contradiction, Jesus, first telling them (His deciples), not to go to the nations, only to “the lost sheep of the house of Israel”.
Then, later, in Matt.28, He instructs them to “deciple all the nations”.
What is your understanding of this apparent contradiction, why the change in His command?I would be pleased in your opinions. Thank you.
Blessings.
CO,
Why should we question the wisdom of God to first offer salvation to the chosen people via certain servants and to later use other servants to go to the gentiles?It is the same gospel of the kingdom after all.
CO,
Lk7
8″For I also am a man placed under authority, with soldiers under me; and I say to this one, 'Go!' and he goes, and to another, 'Come!' and he comes, and to my slave, 'Do this!' and he does it.”Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 08 2009,12:44) Jesus' message was to “the lost sheep of the house of Israel”. Matt.15:24.
He told His deciples NOT to go to the nations, as He commanded them in Matt.10:5-7
…5 These twelve Jesus commissions, charging them, saying, “Into a road of the nations you may not pass forth, and into a city of the Samaritans you may not be entering.6 Yet be going rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7 Now going, herald, saying that 'Near is the kingdom of the heavens!'
Now in Matt.28:16-20 …He (Jesus) says:
…16 Now the eleven disciples went into Galilee, into the mountain where Jesus arranges with them.17 And, perceiving Him, they worship Him, yet they hesitate.
18 And, approaching, Jesus speaks to them saying, “Given to Me was all authority in heaven and on the earth.
19 Going, then, disciple all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
20 teaching them to be keeping all, whatever I direct you. And lo! I am with you all the days till the conclusion of the eon! Amen!”
Now, this seems to be a contradiction, Jesus, first telling them (His deciples), not to go to the nations, only to “the lost sheep of the house of Israel”.
Then, later, in Matt.28, He instructs them to “deciple all the nations”.
What is your understanding of this apparent contradiction, why the change in His command?I would be pleased in your opinions. Thank you.
Blessings.
Hi CO:I believe that I have already discussed this with you.
There is no contradiction. Jesus was sent primarily to the Jews. The scope of his ministry was limited because he was just one individual, but God's intention was to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not only from the Nation of Israel, but from all nations.
Therefore, he called disciples, and taught them and ordained them knowing that after he asended into heaven they also could and would receive the same Holy Spirit that dwelt within him because of the blood that was shed to wash away the sins of all who come to the Father through him.
Eleven plus Matthias who was the replacement for Judas were then sent out to make disciples of all nations. The more disciples that there are the greater the area that they can cover.
John 3:16-18 states:
Quote Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, Jhn 3:15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but [fn] have eternal life.
Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Verse 16 says that God loved “the world”, not just the Jews CO. God loved the whole world that he sent his Only Begotten Son to be the propitiation for our sins. The condition is that we believe what God has done for us through His Son and come to Him with a repentant heart and we will be saved.
He says that this is the condemnation for those who are not saved:
Quote Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Jhn 3:20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
Jhn 3:21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”Jesus states:
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Jhn 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.He does not say “if any Jew enters by Me..” He says “if anyone enters by Me, he will be saved…”.
Again you are correct in saying that Jesus earthly ministry was primarily to the Jews, but that does not mean that what he taught was only for the Jews. He said that he had other sheep that were not of this fold that he also had to bring:
Quote Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock [and] one shepherd. I hope that this helps. My desire is God's very best for you and your family.
Jesus command, not to go to the gentiles, has to do with the fulfillment of the 70 week prophecy.
Daniel was told that his people, 9:24, were given 70 weeks; that is 70 weeks of years or 490 years; starting with the command to restore Jerusalem an her walls, BC 457.
The house of Israel includes all the tribes, not just the Jews. They were given first chance to except the invitation to be “in” the kingdom of God.
That inviting started with the last of the seventieth week, Dan 9:27. Jesus confirmed, preached, the covenant, new covenant, with many for one week all over Judea; only he was cut off in the middle of the week, after three and a half years, and his disciples finished the week. Then, when the 70 weeks were up, God poured out his Holy Spirit on the Gentiles also, Acts 10:45.
No contradiction, just another prophecy fulfilled.Georg
Georg……..You are right , the indentations went to Israel first as Chosenone said, but they refused that invitation and GOD sent His servant out into the hi ways and by ways and whosoever they found they invited to the feast. The ones who were first invited did not accept the invitation, so God Called the Gentiles, so there will be guests at the feast.
love and peace to you and Irene……………….gene
Hi 942767.
You state “Jesus was sent PRIMARILY to the Jews. Scripture says “to the lost sheep of the house of Israel”, nowhere does it say “primarily” to the Jews first.Blessings.
Quote (chosenone @ Jan. 14 2009,17:33) Hi 942767.
You state “Jesus was sent PRIMARILY to the Jews. Scripture says “to the lost sheep of the house of Israel”, nowhere does it say “primarily” to the Jews first.Blessings.
topical.chosenone said:
Quote Hi 942767.
You state “Jesus was sent PRIMARILY to the Jews. Scripture says “to the lost sheep of the house of Israel”, nowhere does it say “primarily” to the Jews first.Chosenone,
You're faithful to Christ's word. Jesus said that He was “sent NOT except to the Lost sheep of the house of Israel”. He did not go “primarily” to Israel. He went exclusively to Israel. I find it amazing that the some people suggest that Jesus disobeyed God. Even more odd is that they could have Him as their savior.How could a disobedient man be a savior?
thinker
chosenone said:
Quote Now, this seems to be a contradiction, Jesus, first telling them (His deciples), not to go to the nations, only to “the lost sheep of the house of Israel”.
Then, later, in Matt.28, He instructs them to “deciple all the nations”.
What is your understanding of this apparent contradiction, why the change in His command?Chosenone,
There is no apparent contradiction. God promised Jacob that out of his body would come many nations (Gen. 35:11). Therefore, the “nations” of the great commission are Israel.thinker
without reading any one elses post, hear what the truth is on the matter.
Yahushua Mashiach was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Yisra'el. We were scattered to “every” nation. There are Yisra'elites all over who are just now learning their roots. In the Hebrew language nations is also rendered gentiles originally Hebrew Goy or Goyim.
YHWH promised Abraham that he would become a multitude of Goyim! As part of the covenant Bride these Goyim are called to “come out of her (Babylon)My people”
These lost sheep of Yisra'el are called to enter the “re-newed” covenant and to keep Torah of their fathers Abraham, Issiac, and Ya'acob.
Yahushua took the curse for the “adulterous Bride” the true Yisra'el. He did not come to save the Christian church, although there are MANY of the lost sheep still stuck in the Christian church. There are only 12 gates to the kingdom (see Revelations). Each gate is for one of the 12 tribes of Yisra'el. If you are not grafted in to one of these twelve tribes, there is no gate for you!
Yisra'el is being called out at this very minute, who knows maybe some here on heaven net?
If you have a little voice telling you to “keep the commands” then you probably are a lost sheep, that is being called back.
You can begin with keeping Shabbat, and reading Scrpture from Bereshit (Genesis) meaning “in the beginning.
Learn about the covenants. Not from a Christian false prophet but read the Scriptures and see what the covenant promises are for His people. Read about the curses for disobedience, maybe you have been suffering some of these curses already?
Learn what the re-newed covenant is. Learn what it means to have belief, and grace.
Quit trampling on the blood of the One who gave His life for you! Repent!
Hope to see some of you when the smoke clears!
Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 25 2009,13:41) chosenone said: Quote Now, this seems to be a contradiction, Jesus, first telling them (His deciples), not to go to the nations, only to “the lost sheep of the house of Israel”.
Then, later, in Matt.28, He instructs them to “deciple all the nations”.
What is your understanding of this apparent contradiction, why the change in His command?Chosenone,
There is no apparent contradiction. God promised Jacob that out of his body would come many nations (Gen. 35:11). Therefore, the “nations” of the great commission are Israel.thinker
Hi thethinker.
Thank you for your reply, but I am not sure I understand your answer. Would you please rephrase this answer so I can understand what you mean. I do not want to assume what you mean, and answer incorrectly if I misunderstood the meaning you intended.Blessings.
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