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  • #793781
    NickHassan
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    Hi ED,

    Indeed none other can be called the Christ.

    Identified at conception as the one chosen by God.

     

     

    But Jesus of Bethlehem was not anointed.

    Jesus of Nazareth was.

    #793944
    Ed J
    Participant

    According to your logic if Jesus of Bethlehem wasn’t,
    we might then conclude “Jesus of Jerusalem” was,
    because he was homeless at that time. (ref. Matt.8:20)

    #793947
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    He was often referred to in scripture as JESUS OF NAZARETH or the nazarene.

    acts 26.9

    acts 10.38

    jn 1.45

    lk 18.37

    lk 4.34

    mk 1.24

    mk 1.9

    mt 26.19

    mk 10.47

    mk 14.67

    mk 16.6

    lk 24.19

    jn 18.5

    jn 18.7

    jn 19.19

    acts 2.22

    acts 3.6

    acts 4.10

    acts 6.14

    acts 22.8

     

    #793948
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    He was often referred to in scripture as JESUS OF NAZARETH or the nazarene.

    Hi Nick,

    Yes, I know. But my point is: Jesus was born in Bethlehem, so
    Jesus may also be referred to as “Jesus of Bethlehem” correct?

    If a woman from Spain comes to America pregnant on a visa and her baby is born in America,
    can her child be called an American citizen after she later takes the child to grow up in England?

    Then you see my point Jesus of Bethlehem was indeed baptized with God’s HolySpirit, but later in life (at 30).
    It is like asking where was President Obama born. He was not made president until he moved to America later in life.

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    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _______________________________________________________________________________________________________
    ”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GOD

    #793949
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    Jesus was born the Christ (according to Scripture),
    but you do not believe this because you believe the spirit
    that Jesus was born with was not “the spirit of Christ” correct?

    You are like the trinitarians, how you might ask? They believe
    God’s HolySpirit is a another spirit which they call another person,
    and you believe that the spirit of Christ is a different spirit from Jesus’.
    This may be why you’re disturbed by their belief, because yours is similar.

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #793953
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj…..The WORD CHRIST, SIMPLY means (ANOINTED) JESUS WAS NOT ANOINTED UNTILL HE RECIEVED IT, AT THE JORDAN RIVER , THE SPIRIT DECENDED AND REMAINED ON HIM. He was a born son of GOD BECAUSE GOD THE FATHER SUPPLIED HIS MALE DNA, WHEN MARY WAS INPREGNATED BY HIM. HE is both the son of GOD BY BERTH AND THE ANOINTED SON OF GOD BY THE RECIEVING OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD INTO HIM AT THE JORDAN BAPTIZEM. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

    #793955
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    I agree with your post, but their are two points I wish to clarify.

    1) What was Jesus anointed for?
    and
    2) Do you believe “the spirit of Christ” was Jesus’ spirit he was born with?

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    God bless you brother
    Ed J

    #793990
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj……NO I DON’T BELIEVE THE SPIRIT OF THE “ANOINTED” JESUS, WAS THE SPIRIT HE WAS BORN WITH, he recieved it at the JORDAN RIVER.

    IF THAT SPIRIT OF HIM, THAT RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD BE IN YOU “IT” WILL ALSO QUICKEN YOU MORTAL (DEAD) BODY, JUST LIKE “IT” DID HIM. IMO

    He recieved it for the puropse of having the FATHERS PRESENCE “IN” HIM, GUIDING HIS THOUGHTS AND ACTION, HE WAS THEN, AFTER HE RECIEVED THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD AND TESTED, SENT OUT INTO THE WORLD TO PREACH THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, TO ALL THE WORLD. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene

    #793993
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    MORTAL means able to die, not dead.

    #793995
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……Why would it “quicken” THE BODY if it were not dead. Doesn’t the word quicken mean bring back to life, now if it was brought back to life, it had to have been dead. JESUS SAID “CLEARLY” HE WAS “DEAD” AND NOW IS ALIVE FOR EVER MORE, YOU DO HAVE A POINT, BUT I STILL BELIEVE IT IS REFERING TO BEING DEAD, AND THAT IS NOT BEING ABLE TO DIE, BUT DEAD. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene

    #793996
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi GB,

    No.

    It means to enliven.

    We can yet be alive when we are blessed with the Spirit of eternal life.

     

    Logic does not supercede what is written

     

    #793997
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Before we are forgiven and anointed from above we are all prophetically dead in our sins.

    #793999
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    1) In the the Old Testament when someone is anointed, WHY are they anointed?
    Example: why did Samuel anoint Saul? for WHAT REASON was he anointed?

    2) Then is the HolySpirit (according to you) “the spirit of Christ” or no?

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    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org _______________________________________________________________________________________________________
    ”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GOD

    #794049
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    JEHOVAH —— HolySpirit
    Jesus ——— Spirit of Christ

    “God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.” (Gal 4:6)

    The Spirit of his Son is Christ? Yes?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #794058
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    The Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of God are in the one Holy Spirit.

    They have different roles and do different things at various times.

     

    But there is one Spirit.

    #794059
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    It is all about how the Holy Spirit transforms men.

    So it is not about Jesus or us being anointed with his own human spirit.

    #794064
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    It is the Spirit of Christ that is first given to believers and it is vital.

    If you do not have the Spirit of Christ you are none of his[rom8].

    #794077
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..You are amazing at minipulating meanings to prove yourself right. The word quicken according to the KJV DICTIONARY MEANS . ” PRIMARILY, TO MAKE ALIVE; TO VIVIFY; TO REVIVE OR RESUSCIITATE, AS FROM DEATH OR AN INANIMATE STATE.”

    NICK….DO YOU EVEN SEE THE WORD “BODY” THERE IN ROM 8:11 ? PAUL IS OBEVISELY TALKING ABOUT A BODY WHICH IS MORTAL OR ABLE TO DIE. HE USES THE WORD “ALSO” AS COMPARING TO THE BODY OF JESUS, WHICH WAS RAISED FROM THE STATE OF BEING DEAD.

    ROM 8:11…..But if the Sprit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from “THE DEAD” shall quicken (bring back to life) your mortal (able to die) “BODIES” by his Spirit that dwells “in” you.

    Please tell me you do understand that it is referencing a dead body as Jesus’ body was “ALSO” dead, and raised from being dead back TO LIFE.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene

    #794089
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,

    Stop wriggling and admit that for once you have been wrong.

    Mortal means can die.

    OBVIOUSLY indicates your reliance on your weak logic and not scripture

    #794202
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    JEHOVAH —— HolySpirit
    Jesus ——— Spirit of Christ

    “God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.” (Gal 4:6)

    The Spirit of his Son is Christ? Yes?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    Nick,

    Please answer my question

    The Spirit of his Son is Christ? Yes?

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