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  • #806774
    Ed J
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    In the end, we are judged on what we did or did not do to other humans – either in physical action or heart. Do you agree?

    Hi Miia,

    My bible says that we are judged by what we say and what we do.

    Where does it say we are judged by what we think?

    #806775
    Miia
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    My bible says that we are judged by what we say and what we do.

    Where does it say we are judged by what we think?

    Where does the bible say we are judged on what we think?

    I can think of two places:

    “The word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.” (Hebrews 4.12)

    (The thoughts and heart are linked).

    “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”

    According to Jesus, we sin not only through actions but also thoughts/ heart.

    #806776
    Ed J
    Participant

    Ed, if you believe Muhammad is the false prophet, then what are you doing about it, (apart from spouting off about your so called knowledge)?

    My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge (Hosea 4:6)

    “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
    than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” (Gal 1:8)

    “Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing
    if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
    whose end shall be according to their works.” (2 Cor 11:14-15)

    “he maketh fire (=quran) come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
    And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those
    miracles which he had power to do” (Rev 13:13-14)

    #806777
    Ed J
    Participant

    Are you worried about Syrian Refugees being in your country, Ed?

    Hi Miia,

    No – President Trump is sending them back

    #806778
    Miia
    Participant

    Are you worried about Syrian Refugees being in your country, Ed?

    Hi Miia,

    No – President Trump is sending them back

    What if he doesn’t?
    Will it upset you then?

    #806779
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    ‘to lust after’ means to starting planning the steps to carry out an adulterous act.
    Matt.5:28 is actually about what one is doing, rather than what that one is thinking.
    You may not agree with me, but please tell me that you do understand this distinction.

    And Hebrews 4.12 doesn’t say that thoughts constitute a wrong either.

    Do you have anything else?

    ______________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #806783
    Ed J
    Participant

    Are you worried about Syrian Refugees being in your country, Ed?

    Hi Miia,

    No – President Trump is sending them back

    (1)What if he doesn’t?
    (2)Will it upset you then?

    Hi Miia,

    1) He says that he will
    2) This question calls for speculation

    #806810
    Miia
    Participant

    Ed,

    So you believe Trump will win the elections, and send the Syrian Refugees back. Do you think he should do that? Do you agree with him?

    #806812
    Miia
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    ‘to lust after’ means to starting planning the steps to carry out an adulterous act.
    Matt.5:28 is actually about what one is doing, rather than what that one is thinking.
    You may not agree with me, but please tell me that you do understand this distinction.

    And Hebrews 4.12 doesn’t say that thoughts constitute a wrong either.

    Do you have anything else?

    Ed, obviously, God knows the intentions of our heart, often when nobody else does.

    “Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. “So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.… (Mat 6.1) ”  “When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.”

    Therefore, “The word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.” (Hebrews 4.12)

    It’s not just outward appearances. God can see us all.

    #806814
    Miia
    Participant

     Some people when rebuked rather than see the rebuke as a way to improve themselves, pride rises up and they start to talk irrationally and in opposition to the person they are upset about and in support of the opposite view of the person they are upset about. If they continue this way, they usually dig themselves a hole and cannot get out because they even go to the extent sometimes of saying things they do not believe themselves, but only say it to offend in order to try and offend the person.

    Yes, I have been there in the past. Have you?

    (not now though).

    Proverbs 9:8
    Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you.

    Proverbs 9:9
    Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser; teach a righteous man, and he will increase in learning.

    Ecclesiastes 7:5
    It is better to heed the rebuke of a wise person than to listen to the song of fools.

    Proverbs 17:10
    A single rebuke does more for a person of understanding than a hundred lashes on the back of a fool.

    The Message
    If you reason with an arrogant cynic, you’ll get slapped in the face; confront bad behavior and get a kick in the shins. So don’t waste your time on a scoffer; all you’ll get for your pains is abuse. But if you correct those who care about life, that’s different—they’ll love you for it! Save your breath for the wise—they’ll be wiser for it; tell good people what you know—they’ll profit from it.

    Depends what you are telling them.

    #806818
    Miia
    Participant

    OK Ed, let me hear you say that 1. You love Muslims, as t8 has said (2nd most important commandment in the bible, thank you t8, and I do apologize for that part). And also, Ed, let me hear you say the very Christian statement that 2. You would welcome all Syrian Refugees into your country.

    Can you say that? Yes or No. Simply a yes or no to both, (so I know exactly where you stand).

     

    #806845
    Ed J
    Participant

    Ed,

    (1)So you believe Trump will win the elections, (2)and send the Syrian Refugees back. (3)Do you think he should do that? (4)Do you agree with him?

    Hi Miia,

    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. Yes
    4. Yes

    #806847
    Ed J
    Participant

    OK Ed, let me hear you say that 1. You love Muslims, as t8 has said (2nd most important commandment in the bible, thank you t8, and I do apologize for that part). And also, Ed, let me hear you say the very Christian statement that 2. You would welcome all Syrian Refugees into your country.

    Can you say that? Yes or No. Simply a yes or no to both, (so I know exactly where you stand).

    Hi Miia,

    1) I don’t know all muslims, but I know that I love BD even though he is caught up in islamic deception
    2) I would not

    #806862
    Miia
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    I said:

    You have always said that God is behind the U.S army and its invasions, have you not?

    You said: No. When I said you had, you said “put up or shut up”

    Put up.

    Oct 13th 2012, the discussion at the time was the illegal invasion of Iraq. You said:

    “Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone,
    and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.” (Psalms 11:6)

    “I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger,
    even them that rejoice in my highness. The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people;
    a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the “LORD of Hosts”(151) mustereth the host
    of the battle. They come from a far country(the U.S.A.), from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his
    indignation, to destroy the whole land.” (Isaiah 13:3-5)

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    #806863
    Miia
    Participant

    Hi Ed, I said:

    (1)So you believe Trump will win the elections, (2)and send the Syrian Refugees back. (3)Do you think he should do that? (4)Do you agree with him?

    You said:

    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. Yes
    4. Yes

    So, you believe that Trump will win the elections and send the Syrian Refugees back to where they came from. You think he should do that, and agree with him.

    Sad.

    Please reconsider your …… position as a teacher of Christianity, until you go and learn what Jesus taught.

     

    #806868
    Miia
    Participant

    Matthew 25

    The Final Judgment

    31“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these…… my brothers, you did it to me.

    41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

    #806869
    Miia
    Participant

    Luke 10.

    25And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How do you read it?” 27And he answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” 28And he said to him, “You have answered correctly; do this, and you will live.”

    29But he, desiring to justify himself, said to Jesus, And who is my neighbor? 30Jesus replied, A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who stripped him and beat him and departed, leaving him half dead. 31Now by chance a priest was going down that road, and when he saw him he passed by on the other side. 32So likewise a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33But a Samaritan, as he journeyed, came to where he was, and when he saw him, he had compassion. 34He went to him and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he set him on his own animal and brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35And the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper, saying, ‘Take care of him, and whatever more you spend, I will repay you when I come back.’ 36Which of these three, do you think, proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell among the robbers?” 37He said, “The one who showed him mercy.” And Jesus said to him, “You go, and do likewise.

    #806870
    Miia
    Participant

    Matthew 28.

    18And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inb the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.

    Matthew 16.

    24Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 25For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.”

    #806938
    Miia
    Participant

    Bump for t8 and Ed J.

    Please address my last posts, without running away.

    t8, regarding the video you posted on Christmas day – even my 1o year old son said it wasn’t right.

    And, t8 you said:

    I think you are just upset that I told you off by showing you where you erred with me. Some people when rebuked rather than see the rebuke as a way to improve themselves, pride rises up and they start to talk irrationally and in opposition to the person they are upset about and in support of the opposite view of the person they are upset about. If they continue this way, they usually dig themselves a hole and cannot get out because they even go to the extent sometimes of saying things they do not believe themselves, but only say it to offend in order to try and offend the person.

    As I said I did not even notice you had rebuked me. Then I apologized for using the term hate for you towards Muslims. Did you see my apology? If you did, why did you not accept the apology and simply get back to topic? Was it only a smokescreen?

    And I have always said what I say today – going back to 2009 – nothing has changed.

     

    #806949
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    Jesus Christ was sent to the lost sheep of Israel.

     

    His initial words to the rich young man relate to their law. Only later did he offer him access to the kingdom of God.

     

    The sheep and goat judgement of Mt 25 relates to how those of the world treat the BROTHERS.

    To mistreat them is to mistreat him. To care for them is to care for him.

    It does not relate to how they treat all men.

     

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