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  • #803129
    Proclaimer
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    Islamic immigration and its possible implications

    This could be the most shocking video you will every watch if even half of it is true. I personally have not checked out the statistics mentioned in the video and I’m also not promoting the group that created the video either. What I am doing is showing you a potential future for Europe, UK, USA, Canada, and possibly Australia. It may seem far-fetched today, but if the statistics are true, it could be a reality in a matter of decades perhaps even less.

    It also ties in with this end-time view if you want to learn more about this possible future:

    Is Islam the Beast?

    #804267
    EddieB
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    yes I believe that the Muslims are going to play a part in the end times which we are in, But there are things to keep in mind we do not fight against flesh and blood our battle is spiritual one and that is always fought on our knees not with weapons. the fear tactics in this video are a little over reached and the political terms such as librial or conservative are not something I use or care to look at. Both are wicked man made systems just that one chooses to abuse the word of God as a weapon of division. I feel that the beast is not going to be one thing but many and they will be spiritual things. Remember the Antichrist is a smart deceiver have you looking at what may seem to be the problem and sneaking in were you least expect it. Fear not for these things must come to pass.

    #804272
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    Agreed. There is no point for us to take up arms etc.

    We fight against the root of the problems, not so much the fruit.

    #806511
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    Islamic jihadists are on the march and 14 people were massacred in San Bernardino, yet DHS seems clueless about what is going on with potential threats to our security. Watch DHS testify before the National Security Subcommittee yesterday.

    Islamic jihadists are on the march and 14 people were massacred in San Bernardino, yet DHS seems clueless about what is going on with potential threats to our security. Watch DHS testify before the National Security Subcommittee yesterday.
    Posted by Congressman Ron DeSantis on Friday, 11 December 2015

    #806516
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    #806520
    Miia
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    I think it’s sad that on Christmas day, hatred of neighbour is still being preached on sites like this. It’s Christmas day – merry Christmas.

    #806521
    kerwin
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    miia,

    Anything that is not of love is hate. There is but one truth and anyone speaking any other so called truth is hateful.

    #806522
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    #806523
    Proclaimer
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    I think it’s sad that on Christmas day, hatred of neighbor is still being preached on sites like this. It’s Christmas day – merry Christmas.

    Islamic Jihadis are motivated by hate. Hate for Christians, Jews, and Westerners.

    They are certainly not motivated by love.

    Jesus taught love God and man.

    Also, it is not hate to report what is going on with radical Islam.

    And technically speaking, the 25th Of December is no different to any other day. Jesus wasn’t born on December 25th.

    Were those who reported on the rise of Nazism guilty of hate, or was it Nazism itself that was motivated by hate.

    #806524
    Miia
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    You say Islamic Jihadist are motivated by hate. What do Islamic Jihadist have to do with the average Muslim – just like what do Christian invaders (who even carve words of verses into bullets) have to do with Christianity?

    You say it is not hate to report what is going on within radical Islam, and that Christmas day is no different than any other. However, where I live, there is a Christmas spirit evident. Strangers greet each other with “Merry Christmas”. Families get together, and lonely people are invited to Christmas lunches which churches put on for them. So it’s what you make of it. I logged in here hoping to see some type of love evident. But, instead I see thread after thread against Islam. I think, maybe t8, it’s become unhealthy. If Jesus was around today do you think he would do likewise? How do you think he would treat a Syrian refugee?

    #806525
    Miia
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    #806592
    Miia
    Participant

    “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers,i what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

    “If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.”

    Love motivates prayer and salvation.

    #806608
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    You say Islamic Jihadist are motivated by hate. What do Islamic Jihadist have to do with the average Muslim – just like what do Christian invaders (who even carve words of verses into bullets) have to do with Christianity?

    Your comments are either disingenuous or you are mistaken.

    I made it clear that we fight against wickedness, not flesh. Muslims are people/flesh and blood like us. I never condemned them anywhere, so your comments are in error. Islam is what I am talking of and it is an ideology, not a race or even flesh and blood for that matter.

    Islam has a book called the Koran which talks about killing infidels, Christians, and Jews. It talks about beheadings and many other atrocities you see playing out in some parts of the world today. So long as there is a movement to follow that book, then there will be a certain percentage that will take it literally and do what it says.

    Islam is growing and terror goes hand in hand with that growth. While not all who subscribe to Islam will be radical (most will likely be not), if only 1% of the second biggest religion on Earth is, then this will have and is having a profound impact on societies where it is located.

    Speaking about the end of the world, Jesus said: “Then you will be arrested, persecuted, and killed. You will be hated all over the world because you are my followers”.

    Islam helps to fulfill Jesus words. The Middle East (world in the Bible) was once covered with Christians. They are nearly extinct now. What happened to them all? They were forced to convert, persecuted, hated, and killed. Now this movement is growing very fast in Europe. It doesn’t take a genius to draw certain conclusions, but as to the magnitude of the effect, we can only guess.

    My advice Miia would be to read and understand what people are saying before critiquing. There is already too much misunderstanding in the world, so we don’t need to add to it.

    We fight against wickedness in high places or places of power. We do not fight against flesh and blood. I do not fight nor have said to hate Muslims. I love Muslims as I love Jews, Atheists, Christians, etc. That does not mean I will love all ideologies. I would appreciate if you paid attention to what I am saying before accusing me of things that I am not saying.

    #806631
    Miia
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    Islam has a book called the Koran which talks about killing infidels, Christians, and Jews. It talks about beheadings and many other atrocities you see playing out in some parts of the world today

    Christianity and Judaism have books (Bible and Talmud) which talks about killing men, woman and children.

    So long as there is a movement to follow that book, then there will be a certain percentage that will take it literally and do what it says.

    Exactly. Like the Christian Crusades, which killed millions according to some figures, or George Bush * who is a Christian and supposedly heard form God and illegally invade Iraq in 2003 killing around one million people according to some figures. So yes, as you say, “there is a movement to follow that book ….. and a certain percentage that will take it literally and do what it says”, regardless of the book.

    * http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-god-told-me-to-invade-iraq-6262644.html

    Islam is growing and terror goes hand in hand with that growth. While not all who subscribe to Islam will be radical (most will likely be not), if only 1% of the second biggest religion on Earth is, then this will have and is having a profound impact on societies where it is located.

    And I wonder what may happen through Christianity and Judaism in the years ahead.

    We fight against wickedness in high places or places of power. We do not fight against flesh and blood. I do not fight nor have said to hate Muslims. I love Muslims as I love Jews, Atheists, Christians, etc. That does not mean I will love all ideologies. I would appreciate if you paid attention to what I am saying before accusing me of things that I am not saying.

    I have been paying attention, and I see a pattern. The video you posted on Christmas day is warning to us to beware of Syrian refugees – because ISIS fighters could be among them, which goes against what Christ taught us – to help the suffering/ homeless/ hungry/ thirsty, (love thy neighbor – the 2nd most important commandment).

    Unless you have noticed there is a growing hatred of Muslims worldwide, and this hatred, and distrust is exactly what Satan wants, (I know because my son has a best friend who is a Muslim, and I read it on the news).

    Jesus’ heart is a heart of compassion.

    I see Muslims as a younger brother and sister, (younger because they [often] have not heard the truth), and I love them, and I mean that, and will always defend them, (going back to when I posted here in 2009 I think it was).

    #806634
    Miia
    Participant

    Have you ever studied Islam, t8?

    I was led to Islam, I studied Islam, and I learned heaps from Islam.

    When I had to choose between Jesus as the Son of God or not, I chose against Islam.
    God wants us, Christians to be as dedicated as Muslims are in our belief and faith. Read the story of the obedient Rechabites Jeremiah 35 – believe me or not.

    When it comes to the hullabaloo about ISIS I see it as a test. Do we love God enough to die for our belief at the hand of extremists, and do we care about their salvation.
    Why fear? God does not give us a spirit of fear, (2 Tim 1.7).
    What spirit does God give, or what are the fruits of the spirit.

    #806646
    Ed J
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    Have you ever studied Islam, t8?

    I was led to Islam, I studied Islam, and I learned heaps from Islam.

    Hi Miia,

    I have studied islam too, and probably a lot more that you.

    The Rechabites of Jeremiah 35 is not about islam – did you somehow think that it was?
    God has indeed forewarned the believers in his Christos about the spirit of antichrist.

    “my Father is greater than I. And now I have told you before
    it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
    …the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.” (John 14:28-30)

    If you have studied islam as you claim, then read Gal.1:8 and 2Cor.11:14.
    And also read Jer.23:29-31 to see what the fire the false prophet of
    Revelation 13:13 calls down from heaven in the sight of men is.
    (the ‘book of fraud’ is the false prophet Muhammad’s fire)

    “our God is a consuming fire.” (Heb 12:29)
    “Is not my word like as a fire?” (Jer 23:29)

    “And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet (Muhammad) that wrought miracles before him,
    with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his
    image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.” (Revelation 19:20)

    #806649
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    “And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image,
    and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God,
    which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and
    brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment
    ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and
    whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.” (Rev 14:9-11)

    #806651
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Miia,

    …and God is going to purge the world of this evil.

    “YHVH is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath
    the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.

    Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth,
    even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.” (Jer 10:10-11)

    #806705
    Miia
    Participant

    The Rechabites of Jeremiah 35 is not about islam – did you somehow think that it was?

    Yes, because God showed me similarities, and how Christianity has failed in some ways.

    “And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image,
    and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God,
    which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and
    brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment
    ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and
    whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.” (Rev 14:9-11)

     

    So, a whole group of people, who were mostly born into the religion, will according to your interpretation be tormented with fire and brimstone forever for following all they have ever know?

    …and God is going to purge the world of this evil.

    “YHVH is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath
    the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.

    Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth,
    even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.” (Jer 10:10-11)

     

    Just anger, fire and brimstone, but no mention of the words of Jesus regarding taking care of the hungry, the thirsty, and the needy. Nice! How Christian of you (not).

    #806711
    Miia
    Participant

    I have studied islam too, and probably a lot more that you.

     

    Depends what frame of mind you had at the time! Ed.

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