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- March 31, 2015 at 5:37 pm#792197bodhithartaParticipant
Is Ephraim the firstborn of God?
March 31, 2015 at 6:28 pm#792203NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
The choice of God is not always according to the logic of men.
March 31, 2015 at 10:12 pm#792221bodhithartaParticipantI agree so you do realize that saying Ephraim is his firstborn is not a literal statement but a term used for preference likewise God has NO SON or Children but God does prefer those that do His will over others who do not, because they are LIKE obedient children
April 1, 2015 at 6:04 am#792235NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
We can do the will of God by obedience to the command of Jesus and by walking in his Spirit.
Flesh contributes nothing.
It is a vain hope to expect salvation by works
Our own righteousness is as filthy rags.
The Sons of God are led by the Spirit of God.
April 1, 2015 at 6:37 am#792236bodhithartaParticipantYou didn’t answer the question because of the obvious implication….
April 1, 2015 at 7:43 am#792238NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
GOD PREFERS?
He has favourites? No way.
What relevance is the preference of God when he has laid out the conditions for salvation?
April 1, 2015 at 7:44 am#792239NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
His will is that men listen to and obey the Son.
You call him a mighty messenger but then a liar and you do not obey him.
April 1, 2015 at 9:28 am#792253bodhithartaParticipantRomans 9:13
As it is written: “Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.”would you call that a preference?
April 1, 2015 at 10:34 am#792256NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
My ways are not your ways
Grace makes the difference in the responses to the call of God.
If you have an opportunity to partake of His grace why would you refuse his call in Jesus?
April 1, 2015 at 10:36 am#792257NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
The wrath of God remains over those who refuse His invitation.
God owes us nothing.
April 1, 2015 at 10:39 am#792259NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Will you be able to say you never heard the gospel?
Would it be an excuse?
April 1, 2015 at 10:50 am#792260bodhithartaParticipantThe wrath of God does nor remain on those who repent according to the scriptures…bloodless atonement:
Mark 1:4
John baptized in the wilderness and preached the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.Luke 24:46-4821st Century King James Version (KJ21)
46 and said unto them, “Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day,
47 and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
April 1, 2015 at 2:56 pm#792297Ed JParticipantIf you do not believe trinitarians believe in “God” then also believe in a son of God as a second and a Holy Spirit as a third then you do not understand the trinity teachings.
God is not one in 3 of anything or to a polytheist such as yourself let’s just say “The Father” is not a God with partners
Hi BD,
All Christians believe Jesus is the “Son of God”.
and Satan’s book says we are cursed because of it.Well I got news for you, the word alah means curse and it is
he (al-Lah) who is cursed by YHVH, not the Christians and Jews.Wake-up
April 1, 2015 at 3:10 pm#792300Ed JParticipantPlease tell me one thing how could Ephraim be the firstborn of God when he wasn’t even the firstborn of his mother?
Hi BD,
It refers to the blessings of God, same way the blessing went to Isaac rather then Ishmael.
Ephraim refers to “The United Kingdom” where the Crown of David was taken.
and Manasseh refers to “The United States” one nation under YHVH.B’shem
YHVHApril 1, 2015 at 3:15 pm#792302bodhithartaParticipantSo Ephraim is not the First Born literally right?
Is Israel God’s son?
April 1, 2015 at 3:31 pm#792303Ed JParticipant(1)So Ephraim is not the First Born literally right?
(2)Is Israel God’s son
Hi BD,
1) literally Firstborn of the promise going out to the Gentiles.2) Yes, and we Gentiles are too through the blessing of Israel going to Joesph’s two sons.
Ephraim refers to “The United Kingdom” where the Crown of David was taken.
and Manasseh refers to “The United States” one nation under YHVH.B’shem
YHVHApril 1, 2015 at 4:57 pm#792310NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Does God recognise any relationship with a nation based on masonry?
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April 1, 2015 at 5:29 pm#792318Ed JParticipantHi ED,
Does God recognise any relationship with a nation based on masonry?
By masonry, do you mean based on a nation cementing bricks together?
April 1, 2015 at 5:36 pm#792320bodhithartaParticipant(1)So Ephraim is not the First Born literally right?
(2)Is Israel God’s son
Hi BD,
1) literally Firstborn of the promise going out to the Gentiles.2) Yes, and we Gentiles are too through the blessing of Israel going to Joesph’s two sons.
So if Ephraim is the Firstborn how is Israel the First born?
Also I didn’t ask you about “firstborn of the promise” I asked you was that God’s CHILD as in literal Father of Ephraim
April 1, 2015 at 6:14 pm#792330NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
No the masonic lodge.
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