Isaiah 14:19-20

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  • #300225
    Ed J
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    Hi Nick,

    We not talking about academia.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #300227
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2012,14:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2012,09:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,05:38)
    Hi Wakeup, (our discussion began here in the seventh and eighth posts)

    Our conversation together started with 'wishy washy' responses
    to the question of: is or is not 'Lucifer' the 'son of perdition'.

    I believe Isa.14:19-20 proves conclusively that 'Lucifer' is
    indeed the 'son of perdition', and seek to prove it to
    you and everyone here as well! (1Thess.5:21)

    Let's try to keep this discussion on track, OK?   …I
    may have to remind you if it starts getting off track.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    If lucifer is the son of perdition,what does that say of God?
    If I am the son of an evil man, what does that say about my father?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Not sure what you are implying here?    
    …but it doesn't sound Kosher to me;      
    …what are you suggesting anyway?

    Ezek 18:20 The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,
    neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness
    of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    You know exactly what I mean.
    If i am the son of an evil man,what does it say of my father?
    I am the son of an evil father.My father is evil.
    Do you understand now?

    wakeup.

    #300242
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Some understanding also does not qualify anyone for a teaching role.
    It is anointed and appointed by the Lord.

    #300254
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    You ask
    “Did God not use Peter to bring his message to Cornelius?”

    He certainly did.
    The words of this anointed man now form part of scripture

    #300278
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2012,21:26)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2012,14:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 31 2012,09:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,05:38)
    Hi Wakeup, (our discussion began here in the seventh and eighth posts)

    Our conversation together started with 'wishy washy' responses
    to the question of: is or is not 'Lucifer' the 'son of perdition'.

    I believe Isa.14:19-20 proves conclusively that 'Lucifer' is
    indeed the 'son of perdition', and seek to prove it to
    you and everyone here as well! (1Thess.5:21)

    Let's try to keep this discussion on track, OK?   …I
    may have to remind you if it starts getting off track.

    God bless
    Ed J


    EDJ.

    If lucifer is the son of perdition,what does that say of God?
    If I am the son of an evil man, what does that say about my father?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Not sure what you are implying here?    
    …but it doesn't sound Kosher to me;      
    …what are you suggesting anyway?

    Ezek 18:20 The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father,
    neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness
    of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    You know exactly what I mean.
    If i am the son of an evil man,what does it say of my father?
    I am the son of an evil father.My father is evil.
    Do you understand now?

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    What you're saying has absolutely no bearing on what I've been saying;
    God is Good, unless you are saying the opposite because Lucifer is an evil son?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #300282
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Where is LUCIFER said to be an evil SON?

    #300290
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,08:09)
    Hi WU,
    And Rev 20.2 gives scriptural witness to the list of names for satan written in Rev12.

    Lucifer does not appear on the list – and neither does leviathan Ed.


    Hi Nick,

    Who do you think leviathan (the serpent from the deep) is?      …and serpent is mentioned Rev.12:9 Nick.


    Ezek 28:7-9 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee [O Lucifer],
    the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom,
    and they shall defile thy brightness. They shall bring thee down to the pit (compare Isa 14:15),
    and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

    Will thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God?   (Link)
    but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of (Ed J) him that slayeth thee.


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #300299
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Where is Leviathan called the SERPENT FROM THE DEEP?
    Guesswork does not add.

    men go to Sheol.

    #300307
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,12:32)
    Hi ED,
    Where is Leviathan called the SERPENT FROM THE DEEP?
    Guesswork does not add.

    men go to Sheol.


    Hi Nick,

    Leviathan (H3882)
    לִוְיָתָן (Livyathan) liv-yaw-thawn':
    'serpent' – sea monster or dragon (symbol of Babylon)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #300308
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Where did SYMBOL OF BABYLON come from-was it in what you quoted?
    thanks.

    #300309
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Actually six times the word appears.
    concordance on this site
    “Number 3882
    Transliteration:
    livyathan {liv-yaw-thawn'}
    Word Origin:
    from 3867
    TWOT:
    1089b
    Part of Speech:
    noun masculine
    Usage in the KJV:
    leviathan 6

    Total: 6
    Definition:
    1.leviathan, sea monster, dragon
    A.large aquatic animal
    B.perhaps the extinct dinosaur,

    #300312
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    So this is a sea creature.
    It is crooked.

    Though serpent is a term for satan the other aspects shown preclude any assumption that it speaks of the same.

    #300314
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,12:52)
    Hi Ed,

    leviathan, sea monster, dragon


    Yes Nick, It pays to study!

    Psalm 119:98-106 Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me.
    99 I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation.
    100 I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.
    101 I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word.
    102 I have not departed from thy judgments: for thou hast taught me.
    103 How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!
    104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

    105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
    106 I have sworn, and I will perform it, that I will keep thy righteous judgments.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #300316
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,13:02)
    Hi ED,
    So this is a sea creature.
    It is crooked.

    Though serpent is a term for satan the other aspects shown preclude any assumption that it speaks of the same.


    “And darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the
    [HolySpirit] of God moved upon the face of the waters.” (Gen 1:2)

    #300318
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Good on you.
    But why leave truth and wander into opinion?

    #300319
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,12:49)
    Hi Ed,
    Where did SYMBOL OF BABYLON come from-was it in what you quoted?
    thanks.


    Hi Nick,

    Jer 51:41-42 How is Sheshach taken! and how is the praise of the whole earth surprised!
    how is Babylon become an astonishment among the nations! The sea is come up
    upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #300320
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Yes the world will be astonished at the fall of the whore of Babylon.

    #300321
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    So you added the words in your quote?
    Please show additions.

    #300333
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,13:11)
    Hi ED,
    So you added the words in your quote?
    Please show additions.


    Hi Nick,

    What are you talking about?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #300345
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Study gives knowledge but does not save.

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