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Ed J
ParticipantHi Nick,
Most people understand The Bible with the understanding of a man. (Isaiah 55:7-11)
“The Bible” is best understood in much the same way “Optics” are understood.
What I mean is: “The Bible” must be understood as “a whole”, Gen. to Rev.But how is this done? Let us use “Optics” as a comparative example; OK?
The closer you look at something, the less that can be seen in the field of view.
And likewise, the focus of detail is lost with the greater field of view. I hope you are
getting all this? This is quite a conundrum, as you can only read one Bible verse at a time.Consider what it would take to make a map without the advent of aerial photography?
First you must understand each and every section of terrain. And then fit all sections
of terrain by scale into their respective positions. Scale is imperative to the whole.
But in order to fit all the sections by scale into the whole, “The Big Picture” has
to be clearly understood in the mapmakers mind; then all the pieces will fit!When beginners start to read The Scriptures they don’t understand what
“God” wants them to, because of what the ‘systems of religion’ taught them.
If they have been baptized with The “HolySpirit” and are open to His teachings,
then they will be like a skilled mapmaker understanding the terrain of God’s Word!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 29, 2012 at 2:05 am#299874Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,13:03) Hi Ed,
There is no apparent connection between those verses.
If you see any please show it and any witnessing verses
Hi Nick,The connection is being spelled out in this thread.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 29, 2012 at 2:07 am#299875Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,13:03) Hi Ed,
There is no apparent connection between those verses.
If you see any please show it and any witnessing verses
“witnessing verses”? …what does this even mean? …please define your term.May 29, 2012 at 2:14 am#299880NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
But opinion should not bind scriptures together into dogmas should it?May 29, 2012 at 2:27 am#299886Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,13:14) Hi Ed,
But opinion should not bind scriptures together into dogmas should it?
Hi Nick,You mean like what it takes for people believe Jesus is(?) the word?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 29, 2012 at 2:28 am#299887Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Ed J @ May 29 2012,13:07) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,13:03) Hi Ed,
There is no apparent connection between those verses.
If you see any please show it and any witnessing verses
“witnessing verses”? …what does this even mean? …please define your term.
What does “witnessing verses” mean?May 29, 2012 at 2:29 am#299888Ed J
ParticipantHi Nick,
You seem to be saying we need them and at the same time we don't?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 29, 2012 at 2:51 am#299889NickHassan
Participanthi ED,
2Cor 13.1-2You have often quoted a witnessing verse for this in the OT,
Jesus quoted that one tooMay 29, 2012 at 3:11 am#299894Ed J
ParticipantHi Nick,
Then you agree with me that one verse can support another, right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 29, 2012 at 3:13 am#299895NickHassan
ParticipantHi ED,
Yes if they say THE SAME THING
Similarities are not witnessesMay 29, 2012 at 3:42 am#299899Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,14:13) Hi ED,
(1)Yes if they say THE SAME THING
(2)Similarities are not witnesses
Hi Nick,1) So only Psalm 14 can support Psalm 53 and vise versa?
2) Why not?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 29, 2012 at 4:20 am#299903NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
No.
A verse in the OT, Matthew and 2peter are fine if they say the SAME THING-they would show the unity of the whole of revelationMay 29, 2012 at 4:26 am#299905NickHassan
ParticipantHi ed,
Deut 17.6
Deut 19.15
Mt 18.16
2 Cor 13.1
1 Tim 5.19May 29, 2012 at 4:35 am#299908Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,15:20) Hi Ed,
No.
A verse in the OT, Matthew and 2peter are fine if they say the SAME THING-they would show the unity of the whole of revelation
Hi Nick,Are you not suggesting that differences in the wording discount the witness of related Scripture?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 29, 2012 at 4:47 am#299913NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
Details differ but the meanings are the same.
Paul used the verse above in a slightly different way while maintaining the principle.The books of matthew, Mark, Luke and John witness to each other as all walked with him and reflections also appear in the apostolic letters.
May 29, 2012 at 5:28 am#299924Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,15:47) Hi Ed,
Details differ but the meanings are the same.
Paul used the verse above in a slightly different way while maintaining the principle.
The books of matthew, Mark, Luke and John witness to each other as all walked with him and reflections also appear in the apostolic letters.
Yes Nick,We must lay aside differing details of the different accounts
to understand “The Big Picture” of what YHVH is telling us.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 29, 2012 at 5:59 am#299937NickHassan
ParticipantHi ED,
Differences add to the texture but not to what is proven.May 29, 2012 at 7:36 am#299939Ed J
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 29 2012,16:59) Hi ED,
Differences add to the texture but not to what is proven.
Hi Nick,The differences are in the writers view, not
in the content of truth contained in their writing.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 29, 2012 at 9:51 am#299949NickHassan
ParticipantHi ED,
Scripture is written by God through men.[2peter]
God shows the consistency and the complexity and beauty of the Word.May 29, 2012 at 10:26 pm#300014NickHassan
ParticipantHi ED,
you offer
“Isa.14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.These three points of focus “DO” establish the matter:
1. cast out of thy grave
2. like an abominable branch
3. thrust through with a sword“At the mouth of three witnesses,
shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)”So these are not true witnesses as they only have vague similarities
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