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  • #286830
    bodhitharta
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    ED

    Jesus was not cast out of the grave as an abominable branch nor was he the only one thrust though, all your views are tunneled through your preconceptions and Judas was the one Jesus said he lost.

    How does the 20th verse apply to your theory?

    20Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

    Now you should learn that the verses you pointed out were not about Jesus at all they are about Nebuchadnezzar

    Ezekiel 26:7
    For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will bring upon Tyrus Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, a king of kings, from the north, with horses, and with chariots, and with horsemen, and companies, and much people

    Daniel 2:36-37

    King James Version (KJV)

    36This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.

    37Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.

    The vision of the Kings demise:

    Daniel 4:22-25

    King James Version (KJV)

    22It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.

    23And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;

    24This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the most High, which is come upon my lord the king:

    25That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.

    #286869
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    All the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in [Jesus] bodily. (Col.2:9)
    Similarly, we are also a part of the body of Christ. (1Cor. 12:27)

    So we may then conclude that all of us, plus the fullness of the Godhead,
    are all part of the whole body of Christ. Did not GOD also create {Lucifer}
    and how is Lucifer connected to the body of Christ? Only in death was Lucifer
    connected to the body of Christ. The key is found in Isaiah 14:19: thou art cast
    out of thy grave
    like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain,
    thrust through with a sword. Jesus is the only person (so far) whose body was cast out
    of the grave
    . His body was also thrust through with a spear. Jesus is furthermore called
    the branch
    in Zechariah 3:8. But the significant difference here is these things happened
    to Jesus’ body after He was (a corpse)dead; “the body of sin”.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #286915
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,09:52)
    Hi BD,

    All the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in [Jesus] bodily. (Col.2:9)
    Similarly, we are also a part of the body of Christ. (1Cor. 12:27)

    So we may then conclude that all of us, plus the fullness of the Godhead,
    are all part of the whole body of Christ. Did not GOD also create {Lucifer}
    and how is Lucifer connected to the body of Christ? Only in death was Lucifer
    connected to the body of Christ. The key is found in Isaiah 14:19: thou art cast
    out of thy grave
    like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain,
    thrust through with a sword. Jesus is the only person (so far) whose body was cast out
    of the grave
    . His body was also thrust through with a spear. Jesus is furthermore called
    the branch
    in Zechariah 3:8. But the significant difference here is these things happened
    to Jesus’ body after He was (a corpse)dead; “the body of sin”.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    You actually believe that Jesus and Lucifer are one and the same or that Lucifer had to be purged from Christ through crucifixion? If that was your theory wouldn't Lucifer have been purged at the baptism of Jesus?

    #286967
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    It is funny how you read, but you lack the ability to comprehend “what you read”.
    You should go back to the thread that inspired you to start this one and study.
    Then you may begin to understand the words of John's Prophecy in Rev.10:7.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #287064
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,14:47)
    Hi BD,

    It is funny how you read, but you lack the ability to comprehend “what you read”.
    You should go back to the thread that inspired you to start this one and study.
    Then you may begin to understand the words of John's Prophecy in Rev.10:7.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    you actually did say that Lucifer was part of the Godhead and had to be purged from it.

    Yet they attribute to some of His servants a share with Him (in his Godhead)! truly is man a blasphemous ingrate avowed!
    ( سورة الزخرف , Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #15)

    #287096
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 24 2012,01:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,14:47)
    Hi BD,

    It is funny how you read, but you lack the ability to comprehend “what you read”.
    You should go back to the thread that inspired you to start this one and study.
    Then you may begin to understand the words of John's Prophecy in Rev.10:7.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    you actually did say that Lucifer was part of the Godhead and had to be purged from it.

    Yet they attribute to some of His servants a share with Him (in his Godhead)! truly is man a blasphemous ingrate avowed!  
    (  سورة الزخرف  , Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #15)


    Hi BD, (Please read all the Scripture and Scriptural references: SO YOU “CAN” LEARN ABOUT YHVH)


                                  'al-Lah' “IS” Lucifer (Gal.1:8 / 2Cor.11:14)                          

    1 Cor 2:11-14 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him?
    even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not
    the spirit of the world('al-Lah'), but the spirit which is of God(HolySpirit); that we might know
    the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words
    which man's wisdom(Muhammad) teacheth, but which the HolySpirit teacheth; comparing
    spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man(Asana Bodhitharta) receiveth not the
    things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


                                          [151  –  34  =  117]
                       HolySpirit(151)  –  'al-Lah'(34)  =  “God The Father(117)

        “He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)

    Ezek 28:15-16 Thou (Lucifer) wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created,
    till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst
    of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee(Lucifer) as profane out of (Jesus) the mountain of God: (Isa 14:19-20)


    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #287145
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 24 2012,07:16)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 24 2012,01:12)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 23 2012,14:47)
    Hi BD,

    It is funny how you read, but you lack the ability to comprehend “what you read”.
    You should go back to the thread that inspired you to start this one and study.
    Then you may begin to understand the words of John's Prophecy in Rev.10:7.

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    ED

    you actually did say that Lucifer was part of the Godhead and had to be purged from it.

    Yet they attribute to some of His servants a share with Him (in his Godhead)! truly is man a blasphemous ingrate avowed!  
    (  سورة الزخرف  , Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #15)


    Hi BD, (Please read all the Scripture and Scriptural references: SO YOU “CAN” LEARN ABOUT YHVH)


                                  'al-Lah' “IS” Lucifer (Gal.1:8 / 2Cor.11:14)                          

    1 Cor 2:11-14 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him?
    even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not
    the spirit of the world('al-Lah'), but the spirit which is of God(HolySpirit); that we might know
    the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words
    which man's wisdom(Muhammad) teacheth, but which the HolySpirit teacheth; comparing
    spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man(Asana Bodhitharta) receiveth not the
    things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


                                          [151  –  34  =  117]
                       HolySpirit(151)  –  'al-Lah'(34)  =  “God The Father(117)

        “He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1John 2:22)

    Ezek 28:15-16 Thou (Lucifer) wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created,
    till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst
    of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee(Lucifer) as profane out of (Jesus) the mountain of God: (Isa 14:19-20)


    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    God the Father=117 + Allah = 34 [117+34=151] confirmed by the Holty Spirit which =151

    Go ahead and deny your own mysticism ED

    #287164
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Do you have “TWO” God's now or is it three?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #287202
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 24 2012,15:10)
    Hi BD,

    Do you have “TWO” God's now or is it three?

    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    One=34

    Allah=34

    Allah is One

    #287221
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 23 2012,19:11)
    God the Father=117 + Allah = 34 [117+34=151] confirmed by the Holty Spirit which =151

    Go ahead and deny your own mysticism ED


    Ed,

    It is clear to the rest of us that anyone can make numbers say what they want them to say.  You should abandon numerology and stick to the WORDS of the scriptures, IMO.

    At worst, your numerology is akin to the occult – something God forbade. At best, it merely displays how we can make numbers say anything we want them to say, and it is therefore of no use to anyone.

    my two cents,
    mike

    #287307
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    At worst it is something you and others wish to ignore, at best
    it's the very “Proof of God”(117) encoded into the “AKJV Bible”!


                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)


             
                         “Testament”=117 in Greek is “Diatheke”= 63.

    Jesus death on the cross remediated our “Testament”=117 with GOD;  יהוה האלהים=117 (JEHOVAH GOD). (Jer.31:31-34)

                   
                        “The Testator”=151 was “Jesus Christ”=151

    (Heb. 9:15-17: For this cause He (Jesus) is the mediator of the New Testament, that by means of death, for
    the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first (Old) Testament, that they which are called
    might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a Testament is, there must also of necessity
    be the death of “The Testator”=151. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of
    (NO STRENGTH AT ALL WHILE THE TESTATOR LIVES.) “Jesus Christ”=151 was “The Testator”=151.

                                             
                              “Fruit”(74)  equals “Jesus”(74)

    John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall (Jesus=74)
    into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die, it brings forth much “fruit”=74.


    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

    #287321
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 25 2012,08:50)
    Hi Mike,

    At worst it is something you and others wish to ignore, at best
    it's the very “Proof of God”(117) encoded into the “AKJV Bible”!


                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)


             
                         “Testament”=117 in Greek is “Diatheke”= 63.

    Jesus death on the cross remediated our “Testament”=117 with GOD;  יהוה האלהים=117 (JEHOVAH GOD). (Jer.31:31-34)

                   
                        “The Testator”=151 was “Jesus Christ”=151

    (Heb. 9:15-17: For this cause He (Jesus) is the mediator of the New Testament, that by means of death, for
    the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first (Old) Testament, that they which are called
    might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a Testament is, there must also of necessity
    be the death of “The Testator”=151. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of
    (NO STRENGTH AT ALL WHILE THE TESTATOR LIVES.) “Jesus Christ”=151 was “The Testator”=151.

                                             
                              “Fruit”(74)  equals “Jesus”(74)

    John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall (Jesus=74)
    into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die, it brings forth much “fruit”=74.


    B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
    עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)


    Muhammad =74

    So do you accept Islam or do you reject your own Mysticism?

    #287342
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD, it is 'funny' how you ask the same questions on EVERY thread!

                            Lucifer(74)  Jesus(74)  Muhammad(74)

    Isaiah 53:12 Therefore will I(JEHOVAH) divide him(Jesus) a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
    (2)because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he(3) was numbered with the transgressors;
    (1)and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

    1.  Jesus bore our sins.
    2.  By pouring out his soul unto death
    3.  he was numbered (Theomatically) with the transgressors.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #287368
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Ed,

    If Muhammed also equals 74, how can you be so sure Is 53:12 wasn't written about him?

    Also, since the numbers match, how do you know that Muhammed isn't a subsequent Jesus like Jesus was a subsequent David in many ways?

    These are just things off the top of my head concerning your number system, which btw, is something most of us ignore simply because we can clearly see how easy it is to make the numbers say anything you want them to say.

    #287375
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 25 2012,12:47)
    Ed,

    (1) If Muhammed also equals 74, how can you be so sure Is 53:12 wasn't written about him?

    (2) Also, since the numbers match, how do you know that Muhammed isn't a subsequent Jesus like Jesus was a subsequent David in many ways?

    (3) These are just things off the top of my head concerning your number system, which btw, is something most of us ignore simply because we can clearly see how easy it is to make the numbers say anything you want them to say.


    Hi Mike,

    1) It was, see my last post.

    2) Huh?

    3) Did you read the first post on this page?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #287520
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 25 2012,13:32)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 25 2012,12:47)
    Ed,

    (1) If Muhammed also equals 74, how can you be so sure Is 53:12 wasn't written about him?

    (2) Also, since the numbers match, how do you know that Muhammed isn't a subsequent Jesus like Jesus was a subsequent David in many ways?

    (3) These are just things off the top of my head concerning your number system, which btw, is something most of us ignore simply because we can clearly see how easy it is to make the numbers say anything you want them to say.


    Hi Mike,

    1) It was, see my last post.

    2) Huh?

    3) Did you read the first post on this page?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)


    Isaiah 44:25
    That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

    ED

    The problem is you don't even follow the values of your own numbers belief. One minute you're bragging about the importance of 151 having a great and positive signifigance the next when it comes to Islam suddenly you reject your own mysticism. You are like a voo doo person getting stuck with your own voo doo doll. You're like a fortune teller unaware of your own misfortune. You are completely out of touch with your own divination.

    #287532
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 25 2012,10:43)
    You're like a fortune teller unaware of  your own misfortune.


    That reminds me of a joke about Dionne Warwick and her Psychic Friends Network going bankrupt:

    The comedian quipped, “Why didn't all those psychics see that coming?”  :D

    #287590
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD and Mike,

    In bowling 3 strikes is a “turkey”.
    In baseball 3 strikes you're out.

    Do telling lies to attempt divert the truth, cancel the truth?   …NO!
    Do connecting words to numbers make those words truth?   …NO!

                                                             (Numbers are only “ONE” witness!)
    “At the mouth of three witnesses,
    shall the matter be established.”  (Deut 19:15)


       
         
                         “Testament”=117 in Greek is “Diatheke”= 63.

    Jesus death on the cross remediated our “Testament”=117 with GOD;  יהוה האלהים=117 (JEHOVAH GOD). (Jer.31:31-34)

                   
                        “The Testator”=151 was “Jesus Christ”=151

    (Heb. 9:15-17: For this cause He (Jesus) is the mediator of the New Testament, that by means of death, for
    the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first (Old) Testament, that they which are called
    might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a Testament is, there must also of necessity
    be the death of “The Testator”=151. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of
    (NO STRENGTH AT ALL WHILE THE TESTATOR LIVES.) “Jesus Christ”=151 was “The Testator”=151.

                                             
                              “Fruit”(74)  equals “Jesus”(74)

    John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall (Jesus=74)
    into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die, it brings forth much “fruit”=74.


                                     God's Signature  
                                    Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)


                       

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #287591
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Ed,

    Your numbers are useless and meaningless, IMO. I have no more to say on the subject.

    #287604
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2012,07:42)
    Ed,

    Your numbers are useless and meaningless, IMO.  I have no more to say on the subject.


    Amos 5:13 Therefore the prudent shall keep silence in that time; for it is an evil time.

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