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I have created this forum to hold discussions for Believers only about the Believers Area.
The idea came to me when wanting to create a poll, but only wanting Believers to vote.
So now this can be accomplished.
Do you think it is a good idea?
I can delete it if other believers think it is unnecessary.
Quote (heaven @ Nov. 12 2009,01:37) I have created this forum to hold discussions for Believers only about the Believers Area. The idea came to me when wanting to create a poll, but only wanting Believers to vote.
So now this can be accomplished.
So, do you think it is a good idea?
I can delete it if other believers think it is unnecessary.
You may want to keep politics, as Right wing, Left wing and General politics.Conservative should be for Conservative only.
Liberal/Democrat should be for Liberal/Democrat only.
And General should be where the fir can fly so to speak.JMHO
Actually the title might be misleading.
The politics is not general politics, but politics pertaining to the way the Believers Area should run.Politics as in a process by which groups of people make decisions. So the Believers Group making decisions based on the Believers Category. Not right wing, left wing, etc.
Quote (t8 @ Nov. 12 2009,01:51) Actually the title might be misleading.
The politics is not general politics, but politics pertaining to the way the Believers Area should run.Politics as in a process by which groups of people make decisions. So the Believers Group making decisions based on the Believers Category. Not right wing, left wing, etc.
Oh, sorry.I thought those who run the forums make this descision.
But if you ever decide to mix the other politics, I am for it.
Now on the other case, how would you decide the politics or decor of this forum?
How would you deleanate who or what is a believer?
Non-Trinitarian? If Non-Trinitarian would it be those of Angel Christology, Spirit-flesh Christology, Word-flesh Christology, Modalistic Monarchianism, Economic Trinitarianism, Dynamic Monarchianism, Arianism? Would all be allowed?
The if it is just believers, then anyone with the Athanasian Trinitarianism belief would be allowed, and that would encompass just about anyone in a multi god spectrum.
Seems the only ones who would not be allowed would be Humanists, athiests, secularists, etc. . .
Sure am glad it is not for me to decide.
I am not fond of segregation. It has its uses if a certain group needs protection but it can also lead to the us vs. them mentality. I think it wise if we avoid such and instead try to encourage a student of the Messiah outlook with each of us perhaps at different steps on the trail but seeking to come to the whole truth in Jesus our Lord.
Scriptures teach segregation, not from a "I'm better than you" point of view, but in a "what fellowship can light have with darkness" and "put out of your fellowship the man who did this".
My opinion – Wm
Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 12 2009,03:34) Scriptures teach segregation, not from a "I'm better than you" point of view, but in a "what fellowship can light have with darkness" and "put out of your fellowship the man who did this". My opinion – Wm
How can you be a light to the darkness? Shunning?Did I mis-quote the scriptures or take them out of context? All I stated was the scripture do say there is a time to segregate. How do you, interpret these and other scriptures such as "come out of her my people"
Correct. seekingtruth just quoted scripture.
So any problem with that is not with seekingtruth, but with scripture.Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2009,21:58) I am not fond of segregation. It has its uses if a certain group needs protection but it can also lead to the us vs. them mentality. I think it wise if we avoid such and instead try to encourage a student of the Messiah outlook with each of us perhaps at different steps on the trail but seeking to come to the whole truth in Jesus our Lord.
Sometimes we need to fellowship with believers. In my experience, if you invite non-believers in, then you always end up with discussing/debating the idea of God's existence. What the Believers Place category is trying to achieve is a place where we can go beyond that and discuss scripture and doctrines.Quote (t8 @ Nov. 13 2009,03:25) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2009,21:58) I am not fond of segregation. It has its uses if a certain group needs protection but it can also lead to the us vs. them mentality. I think it wise if we avoid such and instead try to encourage a student of the Messiah outlook with each of us perhaps at different steps on the trail but seeking to come to the whole truth in Jesus our Lord.
Sometimes we need to fellowship with believers. In my experience, if you invite non-believers in, then you always end up with discussing/debating the idea of God's existence. What the Believers Place category is trying to achieve is a place where we can go beyond that and discuss scripture and doctrines.
I believe you have already designed your forums toward that end. I do not even know if you have a place to discuss the existence of God though perhaps your forum on traditions would be the place. I noticed you switched appropriately the thread that question whether Jesus was conceived of a virgin to that forum from the scripture one where it did not belong. You have switched a few others that were misposted.Quote (t8 @ Nov. 12 2009,16:25) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 12 2009,21:58) I am not fond of segregation. It has its uses if a certain group needs protection but it can also lead to the us vs. them mentality. I think it wise if we avoid such and instead try to encourage a student of the Messiah outlook with each of us perhaps at different steps on the trail but seeking to come to the whole truth in Jesus our Lord.
Sometimes we need to fellowship with believers. In my experience, if you invite non-believers in, then you always end up with discussing/debating the idea of God's existence. What the Believers Place category is trying to achieve is a place where we can go beyond that and discuss scripture and doctrines.
T8I agree with you and Seeking!
What defines believers in Christianity IMO is the belief in the "death, burial and resurection" of Jesus.
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you "the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; "By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you", unless ye have believed in vain. "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures": 1 Cor 15:1-4
WJ
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 13 2009,10:17) I believe you have already designed your forums toward that end. I do not even know if you have a place to discuss the existence of God though perhaps your forum on traditions would be the place. I noticed you switched appropriately the thread that question whether Jesus was conceived of a virgin to that forum from the scripture one where it did not belong. You have switched a few others that were misposted.
Hi Kerwin.Yeah, I do move things around when they are posted in non-related forum.
I think that GENERAL STUFF is the place where non-believers and believers post together. I am open to improving the structure there if you have any ideas.
hi to all
i think you should first consider wath s the purpose of the forums,is it bible discution or anything wath comes to mind,if you want to create a forum to open to other religions why you dont just call it that,like 'Bible teachings versus the coran .or the bible and catholicisme,or the bible versus democracy and so on.Quote (heaven @ Nov. 12 2009,20:37) I have created this forum to hold discussions for Believers only about the Believers Area. The idea came to me when wanting to create a poll, but only wanting Believers to vote.
So now this can be accomplished.
Do you think it is a good idea?
I can delete it if other believers think it is unnecessary.
In all honesty this forum is my favorite!I personally take a stand against ‘any’ censorship as I faced censorship myself on other forums (I currently post on nine of them).
I have been kicked off of one for giving too much information too fast. Another because the administrator has said that “Gematria” is occult practices.
And I even quit one because I refuse ‘to kiss the pinky ring’. That means to bow down to those in fake authority over others; so I personally had my share of knowing censorship issues.Out of my zeal for honesty I have even been issued a warning from here. But I rightly deserved it.
In my humble opinion censorship should only be done based on a person’s actions twords another, not on the content of their speech.Our country has what is called “freedom of speech”, and what I have seen so far hear
has been the same. Most people I have been in contact here are the more mature Christians,
able to handle themselves in any debate situation, and when they fall short another
(in my opinion by the will of God) ‘takes up chase’ or comes to their defense!I have sent RancherForChrist here and you guys (in my opinion) have very done well so far
helping to strip ‘religious dogmas’ from the less mature Christians! I now have jumped into the debate with “BD”,
and I believe have done very well so far. The thread is called “My eye has been opened Answer to if Jesus is God”. Check out how I have done so far.I use to watch “Mosaic News” on TV broadcasts from around the world, such as “Al, Arabia” in Iran, “Al Jezera” in Jordan and others.
I’m also somewhat familiar with what’s in ‘the Quran’. I have also written a free e-book (along with threads I have started)
documenting the very proof of God’s existence; so I don’t believe either of these two points should be a concern here! But it is not my decision to make.Gen 2:16-17 “And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, OF EVERY TREE OF THE GARDEN THOU MAYEST FREELY EAT:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil thou shalt not eat of it (which I believe is Satan, which has intruded in each and everybody’s individual’s mind borne on planet Earth):
for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” But God has also provided us the means to sweep him out of our minds. (Romans 12:2 / Eph.4:23)I know that is why (a sign of maturity) you have asked for everybody’s input in these matters,
with everybody’s input here I know you will be able to know what our “GOD” (YHVH) wants you to do.
I believe you will make the right choice, because HE works inside you as well as inside all us!GOD Bless,
Ed JPS. I have posted this same response on both threads.
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 13 2009,13:56) Quote (heaven @ Nov. 12 2009,20:37) I have created this forum to hold discussions for Believers only about the Believers Area. The idea came to me when wanting to create a poll, but only wanting Believers to vote.
So now this can be accomplished.
Do you think it is a good idea?
I can delete it if other believers think it is unnecessary.
In all honesty this forum is my favorite!I personally take a stand against ‘any’ censorship as I faced censorship myself on other forums (I currently post on nine of them).
I have been kicked off of one for giving too much information too fast. Another because the administrator has said that “Gematria” is occult practices.
And I even quit one because I refuse ‘to kiss the pinky ring’. That means to bow down to those in fake authority over others; so I personally had my share of knowing censorship issues.Out of my zeal for honesty I have even been issued a warning from here. But I rightly deserved it.
In my humble opinion censorship should only be done based on a person’s actions twords another, not on the content of their speech.Our country has what is called “freedom of speech”, and what I have seen so far hear
has been the same. Most people I have been in contact here are the more mature Christians,
able to handle themselves in any debate situation, and when they fall short another
(in my opinion by the will of God) ‘takes up chase’ or comes to their defense!I have sent RancherForChrist here and you guys (in my opinion) have very done well so far
helping to strip ‘religious dogmas’ from the less mature Christians! I now have jumped into the debate with “BD”,
and I believe have done very well so far. The thread is called “My eye has been opened Answer to if Jesus is God”. Check out how I have done so far.I use to watch “Mosaic News” on TV broadcasts from around the world, such as “Al, Arabia” in Iran, “Al Jezera” in Jordan and others.
I’m also somewhat familiar with what’s in ‘the Quran’. I have also written a free e-book (along with threads I have started)
documenting the very proof of God’s existence; so I don’t believe either of these two points should be a concern here! But it is not my decision to make.Gen 2:16-17 “And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, OF EVERY TREE OF THE GARDEN THOU MAYEST FREELY EAT:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil thou shalt not eat of it (which I believe is Satan, which has intruded in each and everybody’s individual’s mind borne on planet Earth):
for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” But God has also provided us the means to sweep him out of our minds. (Romans 12:2 / Eph.4:23)I know that is why (a sign of maturity) you have asked for everybody’s input in these matters,
with everybody’s input here I know you will be able to know what our “GOD” (YHVH) wants you to do.
I believe you will make the right choice, because HE works inside you as well as inside all us!GOD Bless,
Ed JPS. I have posted this same response on both threads.
Ed! You know I have heard that before that Gematrica is an occult practice, so that is not all not unusual. I cold never understand it, and truly don't want to either. So but you insist it is not a occult!! Am I right?
IreneQuote (georg @ Nov. 13 2009,14:33) Gematrica is an occult practice, so that is not all not unusual. I cold never understand it, and truly don't want to either. So but you insist it is not a occult!! Am I right?
Irene
Hi Irene,Do you believe everything you hear? (1John 4:1)
I merely insist on "Truth"Ed J
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 13 2009,13:40) hi to all
i think you should first consider wath s the purpose of the forums,is it bible discution or anything wath comes to mind,if you want to create a forum to open to other religions why you dont just call it that,like 'Bible teachings versus the coran .or the bible and catholicisme,or the bible versus democracy and so on.
That is sort of what I was thinking.
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