Is there such as a reliable bible?

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  • #340394
    Ed J
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    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 28 2013,21:56)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,18:49)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 28 2013,15:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2013,17:11)

    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 28 2013,15:07)
    Why do people insist on the KJV, or in Ed's case the AKJV? There are errors in them.


    Hi 2Besee,

    Because it's anointed of God.

    God bless
    Ed J


    What led you to believe that Ed?


    Study


    (1)Was it really numbers, (2)(Gematria or Theomatics) rather than words that lead you to that?

    (3)Most of these number systems need a single platform to work off, and if they started with the AKJV, then all their work relies on that version I suppose. Once they become convinced of these number patterns then they probably have to conclude that the AKJV is the only correct Bible. Otherwise it exposes a weakness in the whole idea of these numbers being so perfect because other and older texts are slightly different. So maybe if the numbers were derived from say from a Dead Sea Scroll, then after much work you would need to conclude that all other texts were wrong.

    (4)All the while Ed J, you ignore the added in verses and other well known errors in the translation. For someone who loves numbers, I find your conclusions very illogical.

    (5)For someone who loves numbers, I have found y


    Hi T8,

    1) No  2) Numbers only associate, which can corroborate
    3) “The numbers” (as you call them) extend back through the
        “Majority Texts”(Greek) to the “Masoretic Texts”(Hebrew)
        and they connect to BOTH!
    4) Sorry, but I don't “ignore” anything.
    5) “y”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #340395
    david
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,20:50)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 28 2013,11:20)
    Everyone on here uses biblecc, I would suspect?

    It's very good for comparing bibles and seeing original languages.


    David

    What is biblecc???


    Biblecc.com

    Online parallel bible. Good for comparing many bibles and checking the Hebrew or Greek.

    #340389
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2013,17:49)
    4) Sorry, but I don't “ignore” anything.


    Great. Then you are well aware of the mistakes in the AKJV. So am I.

    #340396
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Mar. 30 2013,12:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,20:50)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 28 2013,11:20)
    Everyone on here uses biblecc, I would suspect?

    It's very good for comparing bibles and seeing original languages.


    David

    What is biblecc???


    Biblecc.com

    Online parallel bible.  Good for comparing many bibles and checking the Hebrew or Greek.


    It does a better job with the Hebrew than the Greek. It is only the most modern compiled Greek and Hebrew is it used and not the Textus Receptus used by the KJV or other versions.

    KJV only and other such philosophies of Textus Receptus backed versions and other manuscripts will most likely not use it.

    #340397
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 30 2013,22:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2013,17:49)
    4) Sorry, but I don't “ignore” anything.


    Great. Then you are well aware of the mistakes in the AKJV. So am I.


    Hi T8,

    Yes, there are “four” that I'm aware of:

    1. Exodus 3:14 should read “I will be what I will be.
    2. Luke 14:26 should read “Love less” instead of 'hate'.
    3. 1John 5:7 is spurious, because the HolySpirit is “The Word.”
    4. Elements” should have been translated as “Rudiments” in 2Peter 3:12.

    These are four 'mistakes' (as you call them), I know of no others; do you claim more?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #340398
    david
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2013,00:10)

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 30 2013,22:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2013,17:49)
    4) Sorry, but I don't “ignore” anything.


    Great. Then you are well aware of the mistakes in the AKJV. So am I.


    Hi T8,

    Yes, there are “four” that I'm aware of:

    1. Exodus 3:14 should read “I will be what I will be.
    2. Luke 14:26 should read “Love less” instead of 'hate'.
    3. 1John 5:7 is spurious, because the HolySpirit is “The Word.”
    4. Elements” should have been translated as “Rudiments” in 2Peter 3:12.

    These are four 'mistakes' (as you call them), I know of no others; do you claim more?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed,

    Did you just say the KJV has mistakes in it? Is this new, or have you known this forms while?

    Did you see the national geographic on then KJV?

    #340399
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2013,06:20)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 30 2013,12:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,20:50)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 28 2013,11:20)
    Everyone on here uses biblecc, I would suspect?

    It's very good for comparing bibles and seeing original languages.


    David

    What is biblecc???


    Biblecc.com

    Online parallel bible.  Good for comparing many bibles and checking the Hebrew or Greek.


    It does a better job with the Hebrew than the Greek.  Only the most modern compiled Greek and Hebrew is  used and not the Textus Receptus used by the KJV or other versions.  


    Hi Kerwin,

    (I edited your words to what I assumed you were trying to say.)

    Try looking below the “Text Analysis” that most of us use.  They list at list 6 different complilations of mss, including Westcott and Hort, Stephanus, Byzantine Majority, AND the Textus Receptus.

    Unfortunately, they don't break them all down into English for us, so you have to compare Greek to Greek.

    #340400
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 30 2013,22:21)

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 30 2013,06:20)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 30 2013,12:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,20:50)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 28 2013,11:20)
    Everyone on here uses biblecc, I would suspect?

    It's very good for comparing bibles and seeing original languages.


    David

    What is biblecc???


    Biblecc.com

    Online parallel bible.  Good for comparing many bibles and checking the Hebrew or Greek.


    It does a better job with the Hebrew than the Greek.  Only the most modern compiled Greek and Hebrew is  used and not the Textus Receptus used by the KJV or other versions.  


    Hi Kerwin,

    (I edited your words to what I assumed you were trying to say.)

    Try looking below the “Text Analysis” that most of us use.  They list at list 6 different complilations of mss, including Westcott and Hort, Stephanus, Byzantine Majority, AND the Textus Receptus.

    Unfortunately, they don't break them all down into English for us, so you have to compare Greek to Greek.


    Mike,

    Thank you!

    #340401
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Mar. 30 2013,12:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 28 2013,20:50)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 28 2013,11:20)
    Everyone on here uses biblecc, I would suspect?

    It's very good for comparing bibles and seeing original languages.


    David

    What is biblecc???


    Biblecc.com

    Online parallel bible.  Good for comparing many bibles and checking the Hebrew or Greek.


    Cool,

    Thanks

    #340402
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ Mar. 31 2013,03:02)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2013,00:10)

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 30 2013,22:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2013,17:49)
    4) Sorry, but I don't “ignore” anything.


    Great. Then you are well aware of the mistakes in the AKJV. So am I.


    Hi T8,

    Yes, there are “four” that I'm aware of:

    1. Exodus 3:14 should read “I will be what I will be.
    2. Luke 14:26 should read “Love less” instead of 'hate'.
    3. 1John 5:7 is spurious, because the HolySpirit is “The Word.”
    4. Elements” should have been translated as “Rudiments” in 2Peter 3:12.

    These are four 'mistakes' (as you call them), I know of no others; do you claim more?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed,

    (A)Did you just say the KJV has mistakes in it?  (B)Is this new, or have you known this forms while?

    (C)Did you see the national geographic on then KJV?


    Hi David,

    A) No, that is what T8 said; I merely agreed with it.
    B) I have known this for quite some time now.
    C) Do you mean this:

    I suggest that you start watching it at the timeline 2:28:42 – and watch it all the way to the end. (30 minutes)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #340403
    terraricca
    Participant

    This is a good one ,

    But it does not tell all

    #340404
    david
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2013,18:24)

    Quote (david @ Mar. 31 2013,03:02)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 31 2013,00:10)

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 30 2013,22:09)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 29 2013,17:49)
    4) Sorry, but I don't “ignore” anything.


    Great. Then you are well aware of the mistakes in the AKJV. So am I.


    Hi T8,

    Yes, there are “four” that I'm aware of:

    1. Exodus 3:14 should read “I will be what I will be.
    2. Luke 14:26 should read “Love less” instead of 'hate'.
    3. 1John 5:7 is spurious, because the HolySpirit is “The Word.”
    4. Elements” should have been translated as “Rudiments” in 2Peter 3:12.

    These are four 'mistakes' (as you call them), I know of no others; do you claim more?

    God bless
    Ed J


    Ed,

    (A)Did you just say the KJV has mistakes in it?  (B)Is this new, or have you known this forms while?

    (C)Did you see the national geographic on then KJV?


    Hi David,

    A) No, that is what T8 said; I merely agreed with it.
    B) I have known this for quite some time now.
    C) Do you mean this:

    I suggest that you start watching it at the timeline 2:28:42 – and watch it all the way to the end. (30 minutes)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ok. Let me rephrase.

    Do you agree with t8 that the KJV has mistakes in it?

    No, I meant the magazine. I saw it on a magazine rack and read some of it. It is quite interesting showing graphically where the kj was taken from and how it is related to what came before it.

    Is “Easter” in the KJV? Would that be a mistake?

    #341623
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (david @ April 01 2013,16:59)

    Ok. Let me rephrase.

    (1)Do you agree with t8 that the KJV has mistakes in it?

    (2)No, I meant the magazine.  I saw it on a magazine rack and read some of it.  It is quite interesting showing graphically where the kj was taken from and how it is related to what came before it.  

    (3)Is “Easter” in the KJV?   Would that be a mistake?


    Hi David,

    1) Any translation that man has translated is bound to have mistakes.
    2) Can you give the link?
    3) Jesus fulfills “The Passover”(148) sacrifice ON “The Passover”.

    The feast of unleavened bread is a seven day feast starting ON THE PASSOVER.
    Herod would not be observing the passover, nor yet the Jewish feast of
    unleavened bread. (Which I have stated before is a seven day feast)

            “(Herod) intending after Easter to bring him (Jesus) forth to the people.” (Acts 12:4)

      The “Easter” pagan celebration therefore was prior to “The Passover” celebration that year.

    Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
    Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them
    (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
    Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue
    (that is English) will he speak to this people.

    1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
    or at the most by three
    (Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].

    The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #341624
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi David,

    The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
    How can I say that you may ask? Well, the answer is simple: it plays a roll in the fulfillment of Prophecy.
    How can a translation play a roll in the fulfillment of Prophecy you may ask? Evil must reach its zenith, before it can be nullified.  

    Exodus 3:14 is a clear example of what I mean. Man's blunder, as a mistranslation (based on the Septuagints blunder
    of translating [אהיה] to {εγω ειμι} ego eimi) has inadvertently created the false god of religion; under the title name 'i am'. (Link)


                      YHVH means: Causes to become.

               When Moses asked God His name, God said…
    [אהיה אשר אהיה] ěhyäh ăsher ěhyäh, which translates into English as…
                        “I will be what I will be


                   YHVH=63 and “will be”=63

    Theomatics(numbers relating to God) clearly illustrate who God is.
    The Divine=63 Deity=63 of The Bible=63 is YHVH=63.
    [יהוה] translates directly into English as YHVH.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    (LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

    #361917
    david
    Participant

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    #361959
    terraricca
    Participant

    JUST LIKE YOU GO TO THE KINGDOM HALL ,NOTHING REALLY CHANGES ,BESIDE THE NEW COMERS RIGHT ,SOME TIMES NEW DIRECTION OR MEETINGS ,

    FOR YOUR INFO EDJ AS LEFT FOR A WHILE NOW

    DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THE ARCH ANGEL MICHAEL IS JESUS CHRIST ????

    #361967
    david
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 15 2013,08:03)
    JUST LIKE YOU GO TO THE KINGDOM HALL ,NOTHING REALLY CHANGES ,BESIDE THE NEW COMERS RIGHT ,SOME TIMES NEW DIRECTION OR MEETINGS ,

    FOR YOUR INFO EDJ AS LEFT FOR A WHILE NOW

    DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THE ARCH ANGEL MICHAEL  IS JESUS CHRIST ????


    I don't think Ed has left. His presence is still here.

    Why has he stopped commenting?

    There are 8 or 9 threads that discuss your question. This isn't one of them.

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