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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2010,17:14) WJ you say;God dwells in his people as a Spirit being and( not just as an expression of words [intellect].)
is not more that people embrace the word of God and the way of God as there own and apply by obeying the word of God that the spirit of Christ is dwelling in them ,because the will of Christ was to do his father will and obey him,so by imitating Christ the result should be the same,since god dwells in Christ ,that's the spirit of truth not God,God is truth,so it would be with us as well.
TIf you do not have the Spirit of God in you then you are none of his. Rom 8:8-17
No. It is the Spirit of God in us that empowers us to keep his words!
WJ
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 10 2010,17:08) GOD is SPIRIT pure (INTELLECT)
Gene, where is the scripture for your statement?Where is the word “intellect” in the Bible?
Where is the scripture that God is pure “intellect”?
Just more of your inferences.
God speaks his words, and he is not his own spoken words!
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2010,08:31) Gene My Bible says God lives in me and not just some “expression of who he is”!
WJ
Hi WJ,You say God lives in you. You also say the “HolySpirit” is God.
Wasn't it you who's says He's some sort of third person?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2010,09:33) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 10 2010,17:08) GOD is SPIRIT pure (INTELLECT)
Gene, where is the scripture for your statement?Where is the word “intellect” in the Bible?
Where is the scripture that God is pure “intellect”?
Just more of your inferences.
God speaks his words, and he is not his own spoken words!
WJ
W,J. with that I agree…The Word is Jesus.
John 1:1 and the Word was God and the Word was with God.
Verse 14 and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Rev. 19:13 “He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood and His name is The Word of God.” Jesus is the spoken Word of God. He came to do the will of His Father.
John 6:38 “For I have come down from Heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who send Me.”
Verse 39 I believe is so important, because it shows us that we are born again and God the Father has given us to Jesus and this is what He says.
verse 39″This is the will of the Father who send Me, that of all that He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up on the last day.
verse 40 “And this is the will of Him that send Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise Him up on the last day.”
To me it is easy to understand. In Christ Jesus we have everlasting life. Believe and be saved.
Peace and Love IreneQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2010,13:48) Hi Mike, Are you saying you don't have the “HolySpirit” in you?
Ed J
Hi Ed,I'm saying that the Holy Spirit is of the Father, not the Father.
The Word is Jesus Christ before he was known as Jesus Christ.peace and love,
mikeQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 11 2010,01:47) do you understand the way God and Christ are in us ??
Hi T,No, not exactly. But my understanding is that man's spirit is the Holy Spirit in small measure. I think the spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit in a larger measure. I think God's Spirit flows in and out of Him and in and out of all living things. It is our life force. That's my understanding anyway. I haven't delved deeply into it.
Quote Genesis 6:3 NIV
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not remain in man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.”Quote Numbers 11:25
Then the LORD came down in the cloud and spoke with him, and he took of the Spirit that was on him and put the Spirit on the seventy elders.Quote Jeremiah 10:23 NIV
[ Jeremiah's Prayer ] I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own; it is not for man to direct his steps.peace and love,
mikeHi MB,
That is only opinion and unsubstantiated by scripture.
If we always had the Holy Spirit of life we would all live forever.
There is no suggestion God shared His spirit with Adam or his descendants or any natural living thing.mike64
if man have the spirit of God as you say then all man have it even the wicket ones.
Genesis 6:3 NIV
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not remain in man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.”i always thought it was for the hybrid (angel-man) that he say this ,and that it will be in 120 years he will destroy the surface of the earth,
because people were still living more than 120years,look Noah 350years,and many lived 400,and 200 years old,
but the hybrid were gone after the flood ,never to show up again.Numbers 11:25
Then the LORD came down in the cloud and spoke with him, and he took of the Spirit that was on him and put the Spirit on the seventy eldersyes this is true but so what is the spirit that God gives??? because it does not prevent to do wrong and rebel against god
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to me it is an approval ,just like a knight hood and the attached rules to it ,but this was done By God intervention (like by the highest court in the universe)and since they already were chosen to be leaders,this would make it more important to be true.Jeremiah 10:23 NIV
[ Jeremiah's Prayer ] I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own; it is not for man to direct his stepsthere still people who do not agree with that ,and that were the will of man conflict with the will of God.
look today what a mes.even on this forum some just invent there own 15 minute of fame,twisting,pulling,scriptures to their own likes.Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 11 2010,14:14) mike64 if man have the spirit of God as you say then all man have it even the wicket ones.
Genesis 6:3 NIV
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not remain in man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.”i always thought it was for the hybrid (angel-man) that he say this ,and that it will be in 120 years he will destroy the surface of the earth,
because people were still living more than 120years,look Noah 350years,and many lived 400,and 200 years old,
but the hybrid were gone after the flood ,never to show up again.Numbers 11:25
Then the LORD came down in the cloud and spoke with him, and he took of the Spirit that was on him and put the Spirit on the seventy eldersyes this is true but so what is the spirit that God gives??? because it does not prevent to do wrong and rebel against god
?
to me it is an approval ,just like a knight hood and the attached rules to it ,but this was done By God intervention (like by the highest court in the universe)and since they already were chosen to be leaders,this would make it more important to be true.Jeremiah 10:23 NIV
[ Jeremiah's Prayer ] I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own; it is not for man to direct his stepsthere still people who do not agree with that ,and that were the will of man conflict with the will of God.
look today what a mes.even on this forum some just invent there own 15 minute of fame,twisting,pulling,scriptures to their own likes.
So what you are saying is that we have no free will? That is not so. We are free to believe in the Word of God or not. We have a free will to believe or not to believe. God does not want robots. He wants us to chose Him out of Love for Him.
JUst the last statement that you made shows us that men will chose to believe what they see fit, and not what Scriptures really is saying. The Scripture that you quoted has to be wrong therefore. It makes no sense.,…You are taking that Scripture out of context. Jeremiah is talking about justice. Not to go the way of the Gentiles… He is talking to Israel. Jeremiah is a hard Book to understand IMO.
Not only that it is the Old Covenant too. We are not under that Covenant at all. You know that right? If you don't let me know and AI will show you….
IreneGeorg………God wants exact beings as HE IS, “BE YOU HOLY FOR (I) God AM HOLY, BE YOU PERFECT BECAUSE I (God) AM PERFECT. Do you see any thing there that say we need to be different then GOD IS> You calling that as being a robot , but GOD does not seem to see it as you and the rest of the “FREE” Willed . There is (ONLY) ONE TRUE right Way, NOT your version or my version or anyone else's version of the right way, Just (ONE) and that is GOD'S WAY. SO If we conform to that we are becoming ROBOTS? That is the way SO-CALLED “FREE” WILLS THINK, they hate the idea of (ONLY) ONE Right way for (ALL). SO they use terms like ROBOTS. That is fine with me if GOD makes me into HIS EXACT IMAGE , I will gladly be HIS ROBOT. I guess You “FREE” Will's have your (OWN) Righteousness that is YOU OWN , You have become a GOD unto yourselves through your own “FREE” Wills. Wills “FREE” of GOD'S INFLUENCING IN THEM. God forbid you should be a “ROBOT” right? God's spirit will always produce the same thing in whom ever it is in. IMO
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2010,13:42) Hi MB,
That is only opinion and unsubstantiated by scripture.
If we always had the Holy Spirit of life we would all live forever.
There is no suggestion God shared His spirit with Adam or his descendants or any natural living thing.
Nick……..ALL SPIRIT is FROM GOD. He CREATED ALL SPIRITS THAT EXISTS. When we die it returns to him who gave it, so it all came from him. That includes good and evil (spirit) intellects> everything that exists came from (ONE) source and (ONE) source ONLY. God starts us out with limited Spirit,(intellect) and then gives us more after we experience life of good and evil. He brings us to full son ship by adding more of HIS SPIRITS to US and we are then (GROWING) in GRACE and KNOWLEDGE, until we come to the full measure of the Christos (the anointing), OF SPIRIT (intellect). Nick your problem is with the word HOLY, which means special Spirit of GOD . Like the Spirit of Truth, Given to all those He is now calling, so they can have the intellect to recognize the truth when they hear it.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2010,09:33) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 10 2010,17:08) GOD is SPIRIT pure (INTELLECT)
Gene, where is the scripture for your statement?Where is the word “intellect” in the Bible?
Where is the scripture that God is pure “intellect”?
Just more of your inferences.
God speaks his words, and he is not his own spoken words!
WJ
WJ……….Just ONE question (What (IS) a WORD. Is it not the expression of ones (INTELLECT). A YES or NO Pleasepeace and love…………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 11 2010,11:03) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2010,09:33) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 10 2010,17:08) GOD is SPIRIT pure (INTELLECT)
Gene, where is the scripture for your statement?Where is the word “intellect” in the Bible?
Where is the scripture that God is pure “intellect”?
Just more of your inferences.
God speaks his words, and he is not his own spoken words!
WJ
WJ……….Just ONE question (What (IS) a WORD. Is it not the expression of ones (INTELLECT). A YES or NO Pleasepeace and love…………gene
NO!Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2010,08:59) Gene …the words of God are spoken by God and he is not his own spoken words!
WJ
Hi WJ,Are your words your son? Or are your words you?
Why to 'YOU' try to make God's Word(The Word) in to his son?Your 'logic' is a bit lacking; don't you think?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2010,15:19) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2010,08:59) Gene …the words of God are spoken by God and he is not his own spoken words!
WJ
Hi WJ,Are your words your son? Or are your words you?
Why to 'YOU' try to make God's Word(The Word) in to his son?Your 'logic' is a bit lacking; don't you think?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDSo what if I speak Gods words, are they “Me” or are they “God” or are they Gods words?
So if I speak a thousand words I spoke a thousand gods?
God speaks words God is not a spoken word! It is your logic that fails!
WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2010,07:28) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 11 2010,15:19) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 11 2010,08:59) Gene …the words of God are spoken by God and he is not his own spoken words!
WJ
Hi WJ,Are your words your son? Or are your words you?
Why to 'YOU' try to make God's Word(The Word) in to his son?Your 'logic' is a bit lacking; don't you think?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDSo what if I speak Gods words, are they “Me”…
WJ
Hi WJ,How can you possibly be “holy” (as you stated earlier on this thread) if God's words don't become part of you?
John 3:34: For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.Acts 12:24 …The Word of God grew and multiplied.
“The Word” (HolySpirit) grows and multiplies inside of people producing “Fruit”=74;
just like “Jesus”=74 was the fruit or offspring of “The Word”(HolySpirit)John 16:7 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abides alone:
but if [Jesus=74] dies, [He] will bring forth much fruit=74. (Isaiah 53:10) Nevertheless I (Jesus Christ=151)
tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter(HolySpirit=151)
will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him(the “God Spirit”=117: God The Father=117) to abide inside of you.Luke 8:11 …“The seed” is “the word“ of God.
Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but
the word(TheSeed “IS” HolySpirit) of the oath, which was since the law,
maketh the Son(Jesus Christ), who is consecrated for evermore.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 11 2010,05:33) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2010,13:08) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 09 2010,17:17)
EdYou want to play hide and go seek, go to a kinder garden.
Georg
Hi Georg,
Now that you understand what a “Fractal” is: you “should” be able to understand the answer to your question.
I have found that when there is resistance (such as you exhibit), it's best to start with “Bible” references.
When “Moses” wrote Gen.1:1 and when God spoke were at “two” different times (A.K.A. “A Fractal”).The Name of GOD=26 is [יהוה=26] YÄ=26 and YÄ-hä-vā.
We were with God (in Spirit Form) when he [אלהים] said…Gen.1:26 And God said(The Word), Let us(אלהים) make man in our image, after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over
the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
John 15:27: And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.The “Fully” explained Posts were NOT for 'your' benefit, but for the reader interested in “Bible Truth”!
So I would appreciate it if you would NOT complain like a adolescent child (that DON'T get their way).God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed1) I have already told you what I think of your number system; if God wanted us to understand him in numbers, he would have written the Bible in numbers.
2) Your insistence to prove to the unbeliever that God exists with numbers is ridiculous. A believer does not need your numbers since he is already convinced; an unbeliever could care less what numbers you show him, unless they are the winning numbers of a lottery ticket.
3) Your only purpose here is to make a name for your self with your numbers and colors; because understanding you have none, as I have shown every time you use your paintbrush.
4) You can't answer the simplest question I had for you, you spin around them like others have done.
What you speak is like the one in Rev. 13:11.
Even now you divert from my question by bringing in your fractal, WHO CARES? ANSWER MY QUESTION, or admit you're a fraud.5) YOU ARE SO BRILIANT, when God spoke Gen. 1:1, and when Moses wrote it down were at two different times. How can I argue with that, you are absolutely correct. WOW, had you not explained to me fractal, I would have never known that, thank you so much.
6) But in case you lost my question; IS Gen. 1:1 the beginning, and if so, the beginning of what?
Now remember, you're the teacher of BIBLE TRUTH, people are watching.
Georg
Hi Georg,1) By your 'logic' “YHVH”=63 should have wrote “The Bible”=63 in English?
In case to hadn't noticed, God “Does” use numbers in “The Bible.2) The “Only” proof of God's existence a non-believer will accept is scientific;
“Theomatics”(Numbers in scripture) along with other anomalies in the AKJV Bible amount to YHVH's “Signature”.3) Read: Matt.7:1-5.
4) The 'only' questions you ask me, are questions that 'you feel' you already know the answers to.
So what would be the purpose in answering them; so you can say: 'wrong answer' or “correct”?
Nobody made you my judge; so if that's your game, find someone else to play it with; I won't!
Despite what you 'think' your brand of 'truth' isn't “Absolute Truth”. Try to grow up a little; OK?
Now when I respond to your posts made to others it is because they want to explore “Bible Truth”.5) Did you know what a “Fractal” was prior to me telling you?
6) Gen. 1:1 is the account of: “The Beginning” of Physical reality.
Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 11 2010,13:05) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2010,13:48) Hi Mike, Are you saying you don't have the “HolySpirit” in you?
Ed J
Hi Ed,I'm saying that the Holy Spirit is of the Father, not the Father.
The Word is Jesus Christ before he was known as Jesus Christ.peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,That's what the systems of religion teach.
Did you ever investigate “The Word” since hearing differently?Acts17:11: These were more noble than those in Thessalonica,
in that they received “The Word”(HolySpirit) with all readiness of mind,
and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.Do you believe in 'a rapture' as well; that is another distortion taught by the traditions of men?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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